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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 05:09 PM
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Here's how Republicans are being ordered to talk about the nuclear option
Edited on Mon May-16-05 05:11 PM by BurtWorm
Courtesy of Josh Marshall's TPM.

:eyes: :nuke:

Information provided by Senate Republican Conference

GIVING QUALIFIED JUDGES AN OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE

Wednesday, Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist (R-TN) is expected to bring up Justice Priscilla Owen (TX) and Justice Janice Rogers Brown (CA) for Senate confirmation. To help put a face on the debate, Members could highlight the qualifications of these very qualified nominations:

• Both Justices Priscilla Owen and Janice Rogers Brown have bipartisan, majority support and are well qualified to serve on the bench.

• Both will make good judges who will strictly interpret the law, not make the law.

Top Five Message Points
1. Do not refer to the “nuclear option” – it should be called the constitutional option.

2. The Senate will not be changing the rules – if we use constitutional option, it is restoring precedent and 200 years of tradition.

3. Repeat, repeat, repeat these statements – “The Democrats’ judicial obstruction is unprecedented,” and “All judicial nominees deserve a fair, up or down vote on the Senate floor.”

4. No one is trying to remove the legislative filibuster – if the Senate acts, it’s only to end the unprecedented judicial filibusters of majority-supported nominees that started in 2003.

5. Democrats used filibuster to block votes – other cloture votes in past were to work out differences to bring nominees to a vote – that’s the difference – all 10 filibustered nominees (seven re-nominated) have bipartisan, majority support and would be serving on the bench now if it weren’t for the Democrats playing politics.

Democrats’ partisan obstruction of President Bush’s judicial nominees is unprecedented.

• Never before has a judicial nominee with clear majority support been denied an up-or-down vote on the Senate floor.

• In 2003, the Democratic minority unilaterally changed the rules to require a new confirmation standard of 60 votes, instead of 51, for certain judicial nominees.

• A minority of Democrats used partisan filibusters to permanently block votes for 10 qualified, majority supported appeals court nominees, and threatened 6 others.

• Now with seven of the 10 re-nominated, the minority is making irresponsible threats to shut down the Senate if they don’t get their way.

Republicans’ Exhaustion of Debate and Deliberation

• Republicans have sought only one thing in the standoff – a fair, up-or-down vote – but Democrats refuse to compromise.

• Democrats can’t blame their partisan obstruction on a lack of deliberation. The Senate devoted far more time to debate in the 108th than any previous Congress.

• When asked how many hours Democrats needed to debate Priscilla Owen, Sen. Harry Reid said, “There is not a number in the universe that would be sufficient.” (Congressional Record, April 8, 2003)

This is an issue of fairness and constitutional duty to provide up-or-down votes for all nominees who reach the floor.

• Every judicial nominee deserves a fair, up-or-down vote.

• All Senators have a duty to give advice and consent by voting yes or no.

• Republicans have devoted more than 150 hours to debating judicial nominees and tried repeatedly to reach a compromise that would allow up-or-down votes.

Ending judicial filibusters safeguards the balance of power and will not affect legislative filibusters.

• Constitutional principle demands that the Senate act to restore more than 200 years of precedent and guarantee fair treatment for all judicial nominees.

• The majority continues to support the legislative filibuster due to its longstanding place in Senate tradition, unlike the judicial filibuster, which always was rejected.

• The majority is committed to upholding the separation of powers and our system of checks and balances, which includes an independent judiciary.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 05:23 PM
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1. kick
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housewolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 07:58 PM
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2. kick again
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 08:00 PM
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3. Kick
So they can't think for themselves and need talking point memo's written by someone else. How pathetic.
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chalky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 08:05 PM
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4. Recommended and
kicked again.
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goodboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 08:07 PM
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5. this is important to expose their lies. the pukes filibustered a much
larger number of clinton nominees.

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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 09:00 PM
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6. We need some good Dem Linguists, and QUICK
They make this debacle seem so, well, logical.

Given our media, they will utilize the same talking points.
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Starfury Donating Member (615 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-05 02:03 AM
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12. Start with this opinion piece...
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/03/25/opinion/main683182.shtml

It has a lot of history of how Republicans have played fast and loose with the rules during the '90s and how they blocked Clinton nominations. There should be lots of good ideas for Democratic talking points.

For example:

"...But when the Republicans took over the White House in 2001 and the Senate in 2003, things sped up. In 2003, Hatch announced that he would abandon the "blue-slip system" he had insisted on since 1995, whereby a senator could block action on a nominee from his or her home state; North Carolina's Jesse Helms had used this power to block every one of three black candidates to the 4th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals. Anonymous floor holds were abolished, as was the rule requiring that at least one minority-party senator on the Judiciary Committee must agree to a vote on a nominee if any committee member objects. These rules changes left the Democrats with only the filibuster..."
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NAO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 09:54 PM
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7. I was VERY impressed with Frist's performance at Justice Sunday
Religious Reich Wing Cat Killer he may be, but he sounded VERY reasonable and used many of these points in his telecast to the "megachurches".

Why doesn't the DNC provide these types of well written, organized, succinct guidelines for their politicians, pundits, and supporters to use?
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housewolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-05 12:34 AM
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8. Yes, they are very good at that
Have to hand it to them for their regimentation and ability to get their message out.
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tyedyeto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-05 12:43 AM
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9. No free thinking allowed...
tell the people what we tell you to say.

My interpretaion of what is presented.

Kick
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ndcohn Donating Member (78 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-05 12:57 AM
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10. take a que
We must match their message discipline if we are going to win any of these PR battles.
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knowbody0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-05 01:02 AM
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11. kick
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-05 02:23 AM
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13. Byrd Byrd Byrd-- Byrd is the Word
I wanna be sedated...........



"3. Repeat, repeat, repeat these LIES –

“The Democrats’ judicial obstruction is unprecedented,” LIE!

“All judicial nominees deserve a fair, up or down vote on the Senate floor.” WHO SAYS?! DESERVE? GET A GRIP.
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VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-05 03:16 AM
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14. Kick for a very important post.
Recommended for front page! :thumbsup:
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Paradise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-05 06:58 AM
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15. Blondie's spouting this precise B.S. on C-Span, right now!
Programmable Pundits! :wow:

Thanks BurtWorm.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-05 08:52 AM
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16. Nothing in the constitution says nominees "deserve" a straight up or down
vote. This is not a sane principle.

The constitution does, however, lay out the Senate's responsibility to advise and consent on nominations.
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Maraya1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-05 10:05 AM
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17. Kick
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-05 10:20 AM
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18. Wonder how Josh Marshall got hold of this
Also wonder why the DNC

first, hasn't made it a priority during the last ten years to get hold of these Norquist talking point memos

second, doesn't come up with a counter plans to these talking points memos

third, doesn't have a talking point memo distribution of its own
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