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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 03:33 PM
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Poll question: Do you think Newsweek's "apology" is a farce, or was the story a farce?
Edited on Mon May-16-05 03:48 PM by AP
Do you think that Newsweek printed a story about something that didn't happen and is now admitting that they don't tell the truth about the war on terror after learning the consequences of bad journalism?

Or do you think the story was true, but the WH has learned the consequences of the truth and have asked Newsweek to take the fall so that the job of imperialism in Afghanistan and Iraq isn't harder.
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 03:36 PM
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1. Newsweek is not saying it didn't happen
However, many connected with the bush administration are frantically trying to spin the story that way, in hopes of avoiding more riots throughout the Mideast -- as if their spin works outside the US.

The stories about this have been out there for three years. Everyone else in the world has known about it except for us stupid Americans.

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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 03:42 PM
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10. Exactly, this is what Mark Whitaker said...
"But despite the apology, Newsweek editor Mark Whitaker defended his staff in an interview. He insisted Newsweek did nothing "professionally wrong," that nobody would be disciplined over the report, and that no retraction would be made."

From this article:

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/1116238425043_30/?hub=TopStories



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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 03:43 PM
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11. Exactly
They're trying to save their asses.
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 03:36 PM
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2. If you think they're lying now, do you think the biggest story here is how
readily the newsmedia will do as it's told by the WH? Or do you think the biggest story is that the media are moral relativists and that it's right to tell a lie about something so long as it keeps people from hating American soldiers?
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rndmprsn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 03:37 PM
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3. some one got to newsweek...
Edited on Mon May-16-05 03:37 PM by rndmprsn
rhymes with trove?
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 03:38 PM
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4. Newsweek is only saying that the portion of their report saying that
the government was admitting that this happened was incorrect because the representative that told them that has changed his story.

Nothing more, nothing less.
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 03:40 PM
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7. Right, so Newsweek fact checks everything twice and the second time,
Edited on Mon May-16-05 03:41 PM by AP
if anyone changes their mind, you withdraw the allegation?

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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 03:52 PM
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15. They didn't withdraw the allegation, they withdrew the portion of their
story which stated that the government was going to produce a report acknowleding it.

That is why the Whitehouse is still whining saying they haven't done enough, because they have NOT recanted the story, only the portion that said the government was going to admit to the story in an upcoming report.
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 03:39 PM
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5. Technically, Newsweek has not retracted
What they said was the source isn't sure which document he read which talked about the desecration. The source still says the Pentagon document exists, he's just not certain which one it was.
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walkon Donating Member (919 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 03:40 PM
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6. How do they do it?
Illegal war, torture, curtailing civil liberties, destruction of wage and labor laws, undermining public education, seeking to destroy social security, medicare and medicaid - and they get us focused on the Koran and toilets?
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CornField Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 03:41 PM
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8. Other
I think the Newsweek article was written based on what the journalists were told by officials at the DoD. I believe it was also properly vetted.

Officials within the DoD purposefully ignored the one item (or planted it on purpose) so that the entire report could be painted as a falsehood.
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doublethink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 03:42 PM
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9. Great watch Rummy and company blame ......
the rest of this pathetic war on Newsweek now. The ultimate Orwell spin. :wtf:
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 03:44 PM
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12. If you are listening to Randi right now she's
reading interviews of prisoners torture at the hands of our soldiers and British soldiers from Afghanistan to Guantanamo. It's not a pretty picture.

She says that there are articles dating back to 2001 that say over and over again that the Koran was flushed down the toilet.

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Zorbuddha Donating Member (822 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 03:55 PM
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17. The outrage is that this is systemic not anomalous.
The White House says any culprits will be punished, as though they are entirely to blame. This is systemic and cultural, and that is how muslims see it. No individidual is solely responsible, but the fish rots from the head down.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 04:18 PM
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21. It seems these military have been given the go ahead to
treat these prisoners anyway they wished and given a manual on how to do it. We might as well put SS emblems on their collars. I don't know how we will be able to make reparations for this, but we should.
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Zorbuddha Donating Member (822 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-05 01:26 PM
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22. Our stated principles mean nothing
when we vilify the 'other'.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 03:47 PM
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13. I am far more curious about the facts surrounding the protests.
Usually, when the neoCONs are being super self-righteous and adamant stone-throwers, it's 'cause they are trying to cover-up something for which they are responsible.
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Zorbuddha Donating Member (822 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 03:51 PM
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14. Exactly. This stinks like red herring
So much smoke and mirrors in evidence suddenly. The British memo is fighting to be heard above the noise. That is the elephant in the room.

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Hobarticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 03:55 PM
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16. Some US general on the ground stated that the protests
Edited on Mon May-16-05 03:55 PM by Hobarticus
are more about the political sitch than the Newsweek story. It's just bad timing. Heaven forbid that the riots could be result of US actions, at all.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 03:57 PM
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18. Another bizzar twisted situation that..
the Bush Junta along with their Corp. Media will twist to suit them. If a person says something happened and it is printed or reported on radio &/or tv but then changes their mind afterward, it is the media that reported this that must retract the story? Then the media that reported this is blamed for the negative results of the story. It's the Twilight Zone.

Amerika is sliding down to full blown Fascism.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 04:01 PM
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20. "The fascists are coming! The fascists are coming!"
We truly are like a congregation of Reveres, screaming a warning to our people!!!

I believe the message is getting through albeit not in emergency style.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 03:59 PM
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19. Randi Rhodes is now reading reports
Edited on Mon May-16-05 04:06 PM by Kurovski
on how this had happened in the past.

I believe they are using this torture technique.

So you say it's not a "Crusade", eh Commander Cuckoo Bananas?
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