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many a good man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-15-05 01:27 PM
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They fixed the intelligence but forgot to fix the facts
The DSM proves war was a foregone conclusion and they "fixed" the intelligence to justify it.

But why didn't they fix the facts? They could have easily planted some WMDs or paid off some Iraqi to say he was with AQ? Why didn't they?

Was it merely incompetence? Or is it a sign that neocons have a tiny shred of decency left in their dark souls?


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OffWithTheirHeads Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-15-05 01:31 PM
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1. Neocons, decency? Souls?
Edited on Sun May-15-05 01:31 PM by tmfun
That's not possible.
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many a good man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-15-05 01:50 PM
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4. They caved on the UN, didn't they?
The memo indicates US officials didn't even want to go the UN route to make the invasion seem legitimate. Somebody overruled them. Was that the condition laid down by the British? Or is there someone in the administration (other than Powell, of course) who reined them in?

The NeoCon strategy was to make a show of force to the world that the indomitable US military would not be restrained by niceties. Caving in blew that tactic. Was it ncompetence? Self-doubt? Or conscience???

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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-15-05 02:18 PM
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7. 1. they have no decency
2. they have no souls

3. they don't care at all about reality. It is cheaper and quite effective just to lie. They own the media and Murkans are stupid and ignorant and apathetic.

4. they apparently did try to plant some WMDs, but got caught by the international press in Basra.
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democrat in Tallahassee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-15-05 01:44 PM
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2. they thought the war would end quickly and everyone would
forget there was ever a war; thus no need to plant weapons. As it is nobody really cares and if it had ended quickly like they thought it would never have been mentioned. Their hubris got them again.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-15-05 01:46 PM
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3. Every criminal plants the seeds of their own destruction.
Let's make sure the seed grows and bears fruit.
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therapist Donating Member (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-15-05 02:00 PM
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5. Facts are stupid things
:rant:
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DrDebug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-15-05 02:21 PM
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8. Welcome Therapist :)
:rolf: @ your name

:toast:
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therapist Donating Member (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-15-05 02:43 PM
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9. I salute you with orwellian doubleplus award
:bounce:
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-15-05 02:06 PM
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6. being a non liar, if i were going to lie, i would try to make it plausibl
Edited on Sun May-15-05 02:13 PM by seabeyond
that is what makes bushco so interesting. a liar without conscience, doesnt care.

they lie, that is all they do. no more effort. then they stick to lie, regardless of fact being against said lie. and that we all know he is lying

that is why these people trip us and we say wtf all the time
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Kansas Wyatt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-15-05 02:55 PM
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10. To them, the facts are irrelevant now.
They will always fall back on the, 'in the grand plan for war on terror, this had to be done as well.' The problem is that nobody ever questions this grand plan, it is just accepted by our whoring MSM as a given that Iraq was the first step in fighting a World War on Terror.

It never occurs to the MSM to ask BushCo., since they have been so wrong about everything so far and their facts do not add up, don't the American people have a right to know all the details regarding their "secret" World War on Terror grand plan, just so they cannot fall back on their ace in the hole excuse to avoid facing their lies, treason, and embezzling failure.
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