The problem - Why they win and we lose

[ck4829]

They are like little children who blame the broken lamp on an imaginary pink elephant.

This is from the Swift Vets site, when Thurlow was debunked.

"Funny, they'll look into Thurlow but not Kerry."

"I have a feeling that the Liberal MSM is going to put every single one of the SBVFT under the microscope."

"And the conversation will be off Kerry lying and whether Thurlow was lying."

http://216.109.117.135/search/cache?p=%22larry+thurlow%22+debunked&ei=UTF-8&fl=0&u=www.swiftvets.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php%3Ft%3D3193&w=%22larry+thurlow%22+debunked&d=A4B0152AB4&icp=1&.intl=us

We have to hold them accountable, no matter how big of a temper tantrum they will throw.

[Vincardog]

1. They win because they count the votes. PERIOD

Paper Ballots Hand Counts NOW = Democratic Congress in 06 and impeachment in 07

[ooglymoogly]

2. and they own the media

and unless we can do something about that they are unbeatable

[HughBeaumont]

3. Liberal. MSM.

Uh . . . well. Sorry, but my IQ just dropped twenty points reading that. I guess that must be the plan - kill OUR IQ points via THEIR retard statement.

ABC - Disney (NOT at all liberal) owned, Sinclair (Repukes of the 2nd worst kind) owns affiliates
NBC, MSNBC, CNBC - Microsoft (huge Repub/offshore supporters)/GE (defense contractor, war profiteer) owned
CBS - Viacom (CEO a Bush supporter) owned
Fox - we all know what left wing commies THESE guys are . . .
CNN - becoming like Faux JR

I mean, when did the line separating fantasy and reality get erased with these people?

[OKNancy]

4. If you want a serious read and answers to

how we can win..read the article in this DU thread.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=103&topic_id=124051&mesg_id=124051

[ReadTomPaine]

9. Sirota nails it, agreed.

For those who didn't read this when it came out, I encourage you to take the time to do so.

RTP

[Steel City Slim]

5. I Think It's Because Of Television

Too many people spend too much time watching it. Their brains have atrophied. Instead of learning about the candidates, their policies, ideas, plans, etc., the people base their decisions on sound bites and ads.

[oscar111]

6. RACISM: polls dont ask, but it is the hidden reason: redstates, Confedracy

polls dont ask are you a racist voter?

they cant get honest answers, so they dont even ask anymore.

result: we who study polls... all dems... have forgotten this huge reason.

but it is the gop strength... white backlash to sixties integration of the races, is still going and just gets worse. GOP doesnt have to say a racist word... racism is their card... and racism is so virulent no one has to preach it.

cure... dems offer jobs for all.. so no fear ethnics grabbing scarce jobs ..... and guaranteed house value.. {blockbusting fear countered that way}

[Steel City Slim]

8. Key Words

Yep, they do play to racism.

[Psephos]

7. They win for a simple reason

Because they have tuned their message to resonate with what more voters perceive to be in their own interests.

Our job is to give our message the same resonance. That does not mean changing our message, or - God forbid - "republicanizing" it. It means showing how what we promote can help a majority of Americans live the kind of life they want.

Despite caricatures to the contrary, what most people want is not a McMansion and a Cadillac, but instead, job security, a sense of fairness in public policy, evidence that they are protected from enemies abroad and criminals at home, and as little interference in their private lives as is compatible with society's best interests. They want to know that older people and the disadvantaged are taken care of, and they wish to be free from fear that they are one major illness away from catastrophe.

These things are all more likely to result from progressive policies than conservative policies. However, no amount of whining, finger-pointing, and Rove conspiracy theorizing will accomplish the needed changes in perception. We have to lead by reinforcing a positive, credible, and visionary message. We need to sound like we believe our message is strong enough to defeat theirs, and not make excuses about MSM, secret Skull and Bones cabals, PNAC, and the rest. I'm not saying these things should be ignored, but every political movement in every era has always faced obstacles. Contests between political opponents are trials of strength -- strength of ideas. We should behave as though our message *is* stronger and able to withstand whatever potshots those chumps take. Momentum is a curious beast. It works against you before it works for you. Only the persistent can tame it.

Bin Laden himself said it: when people see a strong horse and a weak horse, by nature, they will like the strong horse.

Let's be the strong horse.

[Dr Fate]

10. Kerry: "Bush is lying about my Naval record- like he lied about the WMDs"

If he had said that, it would have deflected the argument elsewhere.

Of course, he would never say that- not even now.