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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 04:36 PM
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a conservative told me I don't know the meaning of "sacrifice"
Edited on Sat May-14-05 04:42 PM by Skittles
and that's why I don't support this piece of shit war. Yes indeed, that I have no idea how much the troops and their families sacrifice. I reminded this clown that I was born on an Air Force base, moved a dozen times growing up (including three times overseas), attended three high schools, rarely saw my dad on birthdays and holidays because of his strange work hours as an Air Force metetorologist (actually, I hardly saw him at all because with a bunch of kids he worked two other jobs to supplement his enlisted military pay), and that I myself had spent four years on active duty in the military.

At this point I asked him WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO CONTINUE? Of course, like all stupid f***ing ignorant conservatives he had NOTHING. THEY'RE SO CLUELESS.
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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 04:39 PM
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1. That had to have been the most ignorant statement that ..
anyone has ever uttered (or right up there)(what that conservative said).

But I'm finding that's common lately. Any conservative I speak with has trouble defending the INDEFENSIBLE.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 04:42 PM
Response to Reply #1
7. Of course
When they go into this "battle" of a conversation with one of us who don't support the war they automatically think we don't know what that means etc.
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Protagoras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 04:39 PM
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2. well at least we know Irony isn't dead
I had a similarly humorous (annoying) conversation with a RW associate who literally in a 15 minute span condemned the Democrats for being "SOCIALISTS" and then went on to scream bloody murder how his company CEO was ripping him off and treating the employees like shit and how mad he was that his company wouldn't give them a good healthcare plan.

and yet...no connection was made. It's almost like a portion of his brain is missing.
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Shoeempress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 04:42 PM
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5. Almost?
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 04:42 PM
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8. I hope you tried to help make the connection...
Sometimes that's all it takes. Considering what's at stake, it's at least worth a try.

NGU.


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Protagoras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 04:45 PM
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12. Oh I've spent 8 years trying to carefully draw those
connections.

1 time out of 4 he'll even admit I might have a point...in the moment.

But a curious thing happens. When we meet up a week later...he'll return to the 0 point almost as if our previous conversation never happened. I keep hoping there'll be some sort of cumulative effect but he's apparently able to perform a core dump between each conversation.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 04:50 PM
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18. LOL... Good on ya for trying.
Never Give Up.


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Democracy White Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 07:11 PM
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22. Uh... yeah
That's what happens to my mom, as soon as she starts realizing the shit that Bush is doing. She would agree with me on one day and then the next time I see her she has done a complete 380 and is back to point one.

Did that to me on Islam too, drives me absolutely nuts!!

Dee
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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 05:37 PM
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21. I have a coworker like that
a freeper-lurking bushloving right winger, who hates unions.

He was one of the ones making phone calls to see about us forming a union after a couple years of no pay raises.

Coulddn't make the connection, though.
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antigone382 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 07:21 PM
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23. How are you associated with my dad?
He's a Boortz/Hannity-listening RW-nut who thinks universal healthcare is the devil, all states should be "right-to-work" states, and Democrats are communists.

And yet, during the three years that he and I worked at the same company, he bitched about their not giving him cost-of-living raises, toyed with the idea of starting a union, and refused to sign up for the company healthcare plan when it went from being free to being $200+ per paycheck.

Oh, and he thinks welfare is socialism, yet he suggested my MOM sign up for it when HE wouldn't pay his child support.

:wtf:
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 04:41 PM
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3. What did he sacrifice? $2.50 for a magnetic ribbon?
:rofl:

NGU.


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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 04:45 PM
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14. LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
of COURSE he has one of those damn things on his car! I asked him SO WHAT ARE YOU DOING TO SUPPORT THE TROOPS? Yup - that's it - he "supports the troops" by sporting a SUPPORT THE TROOPS magnet from China on his SUV! :puke:

I have sent DOZENS of care packages to our troops in Iraq.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 04:51 PM
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19. I like the web site with the magnetic ribbons that say...
..."Support Our Ribbons." <LOL>

NGU.


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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 07:32 PM
Response to Reply #14
27. I wonder if
they know the magnets are from China and the irony.
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 07:57 PM
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31. C'mon! He ALSO has the little plastic flag: above'n'beyond knowhatimsayin?
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 04:41 PM
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4. Did you ask him what sacrifice Bush has asked his rich friends to make?
Great story.
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 04:42 PM
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6. They get so puzzled when they confront a liberal (like you and I)
who has served in the military when they themselves have not. I think it confuses their Rush-addled little minds.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 04:46 PM
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15. they DO, don't they ET?
it's like they automatically assumed all military personnel are brain-washed republican bootlickers
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 04:53 PM
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20. I ran into one at the rally on the Boston Commons back in March
a young guy who was trying to disturb the event and saying how no one there supports the troops, etc. He looked to be about 18 or 19, so I asked "if you support the war so strongly, why haven't you enlisted?" He told me that he had just a few days ago. I could tell by his rapid blinking and shifty expression he was lying, so I kind of pursued it a tad "well, you appear to be a large supporter, why didn't you join back in 2003 when it first began?" His response? "I wasn't 19 yet, I just turned 19 last week."

Funny, I thought you had to be 18 to join the military, 17 with parental consent. . . . unless there's been a change I don't know of :)
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 04:44 PM
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9. You've always been out front in helping DU military families
and supporting them with care packages and words of comfort and concern.

A big hearty Fuck You! to the dickwad that said that to you.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 04:44 PM
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10. What was his sacrifice?
Is he providing enlistment forms to his family members?

God, I am so sick of these people spewing out RW talking points without even bothering to really hear what they are saying. Just because Rush says it, it doesn't make it true. THey are smug and arrogant and yes, CLUELESS.

Mz Pip
:dem:
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OrlandoGator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 04:44 PM
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If he believes in sacrifice, tell him to enlist immediately.
Oh, I guess everyone else is supposed to sacrifice.
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coloradodem2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 04:44 PM
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11. I do know the meaning of the word sacrifice.
That is why I don't support the war. Why sacrifice needlessly?
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Starfury Donating Member (615 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 04:45 PM
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13. And what has Mr. Conservative sacrificed?
Has Mr. Conservative served in Iraq? Maybe he should be given that glorious opportunity so that he understands what sacrifice truly is....
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 04:47 PM
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17. nope, not a veteran
he was too busy using mommy and daddy's money to go to college
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Jade Fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 04:47 PM
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16. People like that....
Edited on Sat May-14-05 04:50 PM by Jade Fox
are living some fantasy that we are back fighting WWII against a genuine
evil, as opposed to sending young people off to die and kill for the mess that
the oil industry has made in the Mid-East. They want us to "pull together"
as a country for the common good. Only it ain't the common good that's at
stake here!

Congrats on a good response, by the way.
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wakemeupwhenitsover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 07:28 PM
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24. you go!
Give 'em hell every chance you get. As a vet you're way ahead of so many of us. I wasn't in the military but I do so love to tell them I'd be more than willing to run over to the local recruitment office & pick up papers for them. You can't imagine (well, yeah you can) the excuses I get.

best
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Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 07:29 PM
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25. Kick his ignorant ass, Skittles.
What a douchebag!
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Elwood P Dowd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 07:52 PM
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30. In BushWorld it's "ignurnt" not "ignorant".
Edited on Sat May-14-05 07:53 PM by Elwood P Dowd
This is amerker and we fightun' tearur ya' know.
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Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 08:11 PM
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32. I think the word ignurnt is just so funny!
I use it sometimes to annoy my daughter. :)
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antigone382 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 07:31 PM
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26. I was hoping you'd tell us you kicked his ass...
...but what you did was SOO much better.

I know I ain't the first to say it Skittles, but

:yourock:
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 07:45 PM
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28. and you didn't kick his ass????
losing our touch, are we??? :D
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 09:25 PM
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33. I kicked his ass with words, Midori
I ended with SO WHEN THE F*** DID *YOU* SERVE? What an asshole.
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Elwood P Dowd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 07:49 PM
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29. I've had draft dodgers from the Vietnam era tell me similar crap
Most used their rich daddy's influence and money to get in the Guard or find a doctor to get 'em out. My poor little rear end got drafted for two years. It's been so long they tend to forget things and let their mouth outrun their brain. That's when I let 'em have it. Also, I have fun with Cheney's 8 years of draft dodging, Bush's missing 2 years in the AFNG, along with the long list of draft dodgers in the conservative movement. They want to get off politics when that starts.
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