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dzika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 08:30 PM
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Olbermann: Rebuild the Twin Towers as they were - (VIDEO)
May 13, 2005

Video - Olbermann: Rebuild the Twin Towers as they were

Keith Olbermann agrees that the World Trade Center Twin Towers should be rebuilt as they were... with one exception.



Video in Real Media format (6 minutes)

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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 08:33 PM
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1. Awesome.
I so agree.
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Love Bug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 08:38 PM
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2. Good idea
Expecting, of course, that they would fix the design problems that caused the floors to pancake like they did and to add more stairs.
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entanglement Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-15-05 10:28 PM
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36. It wasn't a design problem
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 08:42 PM
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3. When it first happened,that was my initial reaction. I think it was part
of the denial. I now think that it should be a Memorial Park...no tower at all.
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FreepFryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 08:43 PM
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4. I've felt that way ever since escaping the WTC minutes before the collapse
Edited on Fri May-13-05 08:44 PM by FreepFryer
Build 'em back up, same way they were... only I'd prefer them one story higher.
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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 08:49 PM
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7. I'm glad you got out. Peace. n/t
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NorCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 08:44 PM
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5. Wow
I'm convinced. I said rebuild em from the begining though
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dzika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 08:48 PM
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6. If you can't view the video then...
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 09:33 PM
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13. Thanks again, dzika.
:yourock:

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UdoKier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 08:49 PM
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8. Cool, but kinda sad.
Might make renting space in it harder...


Like having your office in a tomb.
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 11:43 PM
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26. that's how i look at it
how could i possibly go to work in a place where such a thing happened? i couldn't. i wouldn't be surprised to hear ground zero is haunted.
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 09:09 PM
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9. Thanks, dzika! I wonder if Keith has seen the David Ray Griffin lecture
that was recorded at U of Wisc at Madison and broadcast twice (soon to be a third time) on CSPAN? What does he think of the possibility - to me a certainty - that the Bush administration was complicit in this horror? I do wonder.

Video of this 1 hr 20 speech is now up at CSPAN:
http://www.booktv.org/feature/index.asp?segid=5677&schedID=362

David Ray Griffin lecture at the Univ. of Wisconsin/Madison


The 9/11 Commission Report: Omissions and Distortions
David Ray Griffin

Watch (Real Media, about 1 hr 20 min): – Use the link on the linked page at this position

Description: David Ray Griffin takes a critical look at the official 9/11 Commission Report. Professor Griffin argues that "omissions and distortions" in the report amount to a cover-up by government officials and says that the available evidence suggests that the Bush administration was complicit in the 9/11 attacks. Professor Griffin covers topics he says have been inadequately answered by the commission. These include questions surrounding the attack on the Pentagon, the way in which the World Trade Center towers collapsed, and the behavior of President Bush and his Secret Service detail following notification that a second plane had hit the WTC. The talk was hosted by the Muslim-Jewish-Christian Alliance for 9/11 Truth (www.mujca.com) and took place at the University of Wisconsin in Madison. Includes Q&A.

Author Bio: David Ray Griffin is professor emeritus at the Claremont School of Theology, where he taught for over 30 years (retiring in 2004). He has authored or edited over two dozen books, including "God and Religion in the Postmodern World," "Religion and Scientific Naturalism," and "The New Pearl Harbor: Disturbing Questions About the Bush Administration and 9/11."

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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 09:34 PM
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14. Thanks for posting that link, Hope. n/t
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 09:41 PM
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18. YVW, bleev. Also don't miss this 60 min audio recording of a radio
interview (Pacifica) with Griffin about his recent book. It brings out additional points not addressed in his Madison talk. I suppose I should post all these links in a new thread somewhere.

The MP3 file of the Pacifica radio interview link is here:
http://www.kpfa.org/cgi-bin/gen-mpegurl.m3u?server=209.81.10.18&port=80&mount=/data/20041227-Mon1700.mp3

And then there is the full text online of Griffin's first book on this subject:
http://vancouver.indymedia.org/news/2004/06/141355.php



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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 09:20 PM
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10. Thank you Keith!
Edited on Fri May-13-05 09:34 PM by BattyDem
:loveya:

The thought of that hideous Freedom Tower, which has lattice work instead of actual floors occupying the top 1/3 of the building, is heartbreaking! A hollow building doesn't say "freedom" - it says fear. :-(


http://teamtwintowers.org



http://www.twintowersagain.org





On edit:

I always believed the towers should be rebuilt, but I thought they both should be one story higher as a way to represent the American spirit. However, I really like Keith's idea. He's right ... years from now, people will still be asking, "Why is one tower shorter than the other?" and that will ensure that 9/11 is never forgotten.

Very nice, Keith! :toast:


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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 09:36 PM
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16. Thanks for the links. And maybe it would be better if people asked
"Why is one tower higher than the other?"


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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 09:39 PM
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17. I just saw your post below ...
You're right. Adding height is a much better idea. As I said, that's what I originally thought they should do. I liked the sentiment behind Keith's idea so much that I never thought of going up instead of down, LOL! Silly me. :blush:

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AlmightyTallest Donating Member (110 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 11:31 PM
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20. I agree
I never really liked the "Freedom Tower" design, plus every-time I hear the name it makes me think of "Freedom Fries" and other stupid phrases like that which the * admin has used. I don't want to be thinking about that every time I look at the NY skyline, I still feel like there is a hole there. I have a feeling if the Freedom Tower gets built it will be kind of like the Eiffel Tower in Paris, ie. no one liked it very much.

BTW was Keith's mustache not hilarious?
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 11:38 PM
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23. That sounds like a good idea!
I never felt right about the whole "freedom tower" ordeal. It's a Bush thing and it just lets them have some more of that propoganda. I also think if it is rebuilt like it was is it shows nobody can bring us down like that whether it's Bush and his croonies or real terrorist's and we can go on with our lives and live like we always have. Don't let them get us.
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Withywindle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 01:00 AM
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27. They could still be one story higher than the original...
...as the starting ratio for the difference in their heights. I like that idea.
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Tesla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 07:26 AM
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29. How about adding an inch to each tower, per person that died in each
thay wouldn't be the same size , or just add it add to one, but not takeaway.
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Withywindle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 09:25 PM
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11. Oh YEAH.
That feels exactly right to me.

It's not denial. It's defiance. And I love the idea about the difference in the heights of the towers. I do think there should be other ways of memorializing - artwork, plaques, something moving and fitting in the plaza between the buildings, etc.

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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 11:39 PM
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24. Maybe in the rebuilt tower
is there can be a special room for memorials etc for those who lives were lost.
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 09:30 PM
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12. Nominated! This is a great idea, the best memorial.

A brilliant segment by KO and his staff, and the tremendously moving idea we've been groping for to best memorialize the people lost.

My only contribution is to suggest that we add, rather than subtract, one foot to one of the towers for every life lost.

KO might have had this in mind, but if not I'd like to emphasize the affirmative notion of going up, rather than down.

In the spirit of the Towers, and most of all the people who worked there.


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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 09:35 PM
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15. Add height, not subtract ...
Edited on Fri May-13-05 09:36 PM by BattyDem

that's an even better idea! There would still be a height difference, so in the future, people would still ask why.
:toast:

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Shopaholic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 11:07 PM
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19. Dzika--you are the best
and KO ain't too bad either!
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Chicago Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 11:31 PM
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21. I agree totally
way to go Keith (you sexy beast)
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 11:36 PM
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22. Donald Trump said Wednesday that the Towers should be rebuilt
with an improved designed to prevent a collapse similar to 9/11.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 11:40 PM
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25. Sounds good
I like it better than the whole "freedom tower" bullshit.
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the_spectator Donating Member (932 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 01:06 AM
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28. Absolutely, rebuild:
That is the only thing that could give us (forgive the word, I know it's awful) "closure." If we did that, maybe we could move on and put the so-called "War on Terror" in perspective.
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Tesla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-15-05 08:41 PM
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30. Only right
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-15-05 09:03 PM
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32. My son has that poster on his wall...
Oh - and I wanted to point out that I went to http://www.teamtwintowers.org/ to read more.
I can't remember if it was them or another, similar group who wants to rebuild the twin towers, but they don't want to put the towers on the exact same footprints as the old towers - they want to build just up from them. The footprints would serve as memorials.
I think it's a splendid idea - including the one tower shorter than the other one.

Bravo Keith!

(And he is a sexy beast! :loveya:)
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-15-05 08:58 PM
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31. Rebuild Them !
As always, Keith's da man :loveya:
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Princess Turandot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-15-05 09:24 PM
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33. That was my thought as well...
I lived seeing them in the distance out of our apartment window for 15 years before I moved to where I live now. Put them back.



From Ellis Island, July 2003 (by me)



Probably from Liberty Island, August 2001, Wired New York


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Tesla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-15-05 09:42 PM
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34. Looks like "Size Matters" !!!!! hahaha
Edited on Sun May-15-05 09:43 PM by Tesla
It makes a HUGE difference!!!

(As long as Haliburton isn't getting the contract to do it!!!!)
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jayctravis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-15-05 09:59 PM
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35. Very nice idea.
Strong but with a graceful humility.
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