We don't have a capitalistic society...look at what happened to United.

[hector459]

We may as well be a socialistic society, the Feds bail out every failed private failed corporation but cry foul at socialism that actually helps people. We live in a gigantic welfare state for corporate America while pretending that we proudly live under capitalism. It's nothing more than an oligarchical system with welfare for corporations which are owned by the oligarchy.

[JDPriestly]

1. Kick!

You say it well.

[Melodybe]

9. Kicked and nominated

what a fabulous point, it think that I'll be quoting you at my Dem table next week.

[H2O Man]

2. We have a mixed economy.

And have had one for at least 150 years. The fact is that we have "socialism" for the rich to a far great extent (and expense) than we do for the middle class, or even the poor.

[blondeatlast]

3. DING!

Nailed it the first time.

You are damn right.

We must insert the phrase "corporate socialism" anywhere we can, as often as we can.

Dem operatives, I hope to hell you have interns who read this board...

Nominated.

[salib]

4. Fascism

Simple. Don't need to sully the good name of socialism.

[blondeatlast]

6. That word has been overused so much it has lost any impact.

Socialism is what the corporations fear most--yet they thrive on it.

[H2O Man]

7. I agree.

The correct use of words is important.

[Salviati]

12. Better yet, use the word that Mussolini himself called it: corporatism

Corporatism != Capitalism

[salib]

15. Honestly, I think fascism is just a logical extension of

capitalism. All of the drives released in "unfettered capitalism" leads quite quickly and directly to fascism. The only thing better than competing and winning is never having to compete at all, but still getting all the goodies. The government is just another business parther and member of the trust.

[Vincardog]

16. Say it again FASCISM

The cooperation of Corporate and Government interests
AT THE EXPENSE OF THE PEOPLE.
EXACTLY what is happening don't blame the words.

[Turn CO Blue]

19. New phrases: "corporate socialism" and "corporate welfare" nt

[bicentennial_baby]

5. I was thinking about that in Macro class this morning...

I thought competition was supposed to be a good thing...sink or swim bitches! Ugh...pseudo-capitalists.

[Bonhomme Richard]

8. It's only a free market society when...............

it pertains to the working stiff. We are really schmucks sometimes.

[erichzann]

10. We have Corporate Socialism and we need POPULAR SOCIALISM

Anyway, the idea that we have - or have ever had - a "free market" is a total myth.

Our country works best when it operates under the economic principle of well-regulated captialism, and where government is the police and watchdog of business - independant and not in bed with business

[Tux]

11. Our 2 economies

Communism for the wealthy through gov paying corporate debts.

Free trade for everyone else.

[Berserker]

14. This kind of shit

has been happening for many years. We just don't hear about it until a major corporation does it and makes the news.

[Tux]

17. And the news

Make the company seem like a victim.

Too bad Chairmen of Boards can't control CEOs anymore. Stockholders should hold them accoutable.

[sweetheart]

13. it is a corrupt corporate oligarchy

just like russia. Choamsky puts it well, that fascism, corporatism
and bolshevism are fundametally the same, and that rather than being
something "new", this new bush-system is something very old... a terrible
concentration of power, the total denial of oversight by the people,
and ... well , you know. Its corproate government for the corporations,
and nothing more.

[Vincardog]

18. Makes you remember that Daddy Bush was Hitlers banker.

Remember what they could not do with 2 world wars they now want to do by stealing the vote. DAMN DIEBOLD and E$$.

[Pharaoh]

20. damn straight

[kenny blankenship]

21. What makes you think that's not capitalist?

They took the profits and high pay when the taking was good and then stuck someone else with the costs. Give that CEO a capitalist merit badge!

As they teach them in B-school: privatize profits, socialize losses.

[stickdog]

25. & poor = lazy & hard working = rich & success = survival of the fittest.

corporate socialism & public social Darwinism

[Fovea]

22. Compare and contrast this with

the current incarnation of the contract on Amtrak.

[SoCalDem]

23. nothing happened "to" United.. It was scuttled by its own CEOs

through greed and more greed..

[stickdog]

24. Yes. Corporate socialism & public social darwinism (nt)

[NAO]

26. Socialize the Costs and Failures - Privatize the Profits and Successes

Shift the burden of costs and failure onto the public; but when they finally manage to suck from the public treasury long enough to make a profit, keep that private.