LOLOL!!! "Army to offer 15 month enlistment instead of 4 years"

[Bluebear]

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. Army will allow recruits to sign up for just 15 months of active-duty service, rather than the typical four-year enlistment, as it struggles to lure new soldiers amid the Iraq war, a general said on Thursday.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/arms_usa_recruiting_dc

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Yeaaaaaah they will let you right out after 15 months. No stop-loss provisions. Sign right here, suckers!

[Wickerman]

1. cannon fodder either way

3 months of training and 12 months with boots on the ground in Afghanistan or Iraq or _________? IF you life through that they'll find a way to keep you on in some sandy paradise, rest assured.

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

2. No way.

This turns out to be around a 9-10 year commitment, because being in the IRR means that you WILL get called at some point.

[jobycom]

3. They should be able to train a quality soldier, use him, and release him

in fifteen months, right?

Geeze, I hope we aren't invaded until W is imprisoned.

[RamboLiberal]

Isn't this the very reason Rumsfeld called draftees USELESS

Googled his response.

Donald Rumsfeld's analysis of the Vietnam War has offended many Vietnam veterans, because according to Rumsfeld, draftees did not contribute much in the Vietnam War, despite 20,000 deaths by draftees who: "'added no value, no advantage, really, to the United States armed services over any sustained period of time, because (of) the churning that took place. It took (an) enormous amount of effort in terms of training - and then they were gone.'"(3)

http://www.etext.org/Politics/MIM/agitation/draft/draftupdate05092004.html

[jobycom]

22. Oh, beautiful memory. Very good point. nt./

[Solly Mack]

4. key paragraph

"They will be offered the option of serving 15 months on active duty after completing their training, and then two years in the part-time Army Reserve or National Guard. The soldier then would spend nearly seven years in the Individual Ready Reserve, which requires no training and until recently was rarely mobilized, or serve in a program like the Peace Corps."

Do the math.

[EVDebs]

5. No child left behind

[im10ashus]

35. Sad, but true. n/t

[ET Awful]

6. Sign up for 15 months, spent 3-4 months in Basic and AIT, a one year tour

of duty in Iraq, get stop-lossed, do another year in Iraq, come home, still under stop-loss, get rotated back into Iraq, etc.

LOL . . . sorry, the Army can't afford to offer a 15 month enlistment, the first 1/4 of it is just training, it's not feasible.

[peacebaby3]

7. And offering $1,000 dollars to anyone already in for each person

they can get to sign up.

They have turned all the soldiers into recruiters by offering them extra pay ($1,000 per new or re-enlisted recruit).

[Bluebear]

10. Sounds like Amway or something

[peacebaby3]

16. LOL. Yep it does. The letter they sent out about it says HAPPY HUNTING

and chhhaaaccchhhiinnnggg if you are successful.

I kid you not!

[paineinthearse]

8. 15 months or a longer term, what's the difference when

1. green soldiers are more likely to be killed on the line.
2. there is a back door draft?

[catnhatnh]

9. 15 months...HaHa..

..."after training" meaning 2 months boot camp + 6 months AIT + 1 month leave+ 15 months active=2 years+2 years guard (which now ispretty much the same as "active" in some MOS's) AND 7 years IRR...I make your total commitment to be a hell of a lot closer to 15 years than 15 months!

[B Calm]

11. They're forgetting to tell the new recruits you have a 6 year

commitment!!

[sickinohio]

12. Problem is - once they sign you up - they won't let you out

when your time is up. I imagine some kids won't realize that though.

[Jacobin]

13. Ahem, presumably they are not mentioning:

That nasty little fine print .....'stop loss'.....

[sakabatou]

14. Sign on for 15 months... only to be prolonged to 4 years.

[DearAbby]

15. I hope no one believes this..they will keep them longer. national security

The current military in Iraq are those that have had two to three tours. They are trying to do anything and everything to avoid the D-word...Once that is out there all hell will break loose.


READ THE SMALL PRINT...

[Kerrytravelers]

17. Ah... just enough time to train 'em and send 'em to die for *'s oil.

How patriotric of our military leaders.:patriot:

[BillZBubb]

18. Under Bush*, the government is becoming Snake Oil Inc.

Would you buy a used car from these guys? Or even a new one?

[Horse with no Name]

30. Hell I wouldn't buy a vacuum cleaner if I was knee deep in

dirt and didn't have a Wal Mart closeby,lol.:evilgrin:

[gratuitous]

19. Can you imagine the quality of recruit that will fall for this?

Forrest Gump would look like a candidate for Mensa compared to these poor saps.

[gollygee]

20. I'm smelling a draft . . .

that's just marketing talk. It's still the same commitment, as far as I can see.

[understandinglife]

21. It only takes a fraction of a second for a car bomb to vaporize you.

I'd skip the 15 month offer to serve the civilian war criminals who only face the challenge of staying on a bicycle or not choking on a guckzel.

Peace.


www.missionnotaccmplished.us

[Stinky The Clown]

23. They also allow families of new recruits to fund tax free

"Funeral Savings Accounts®" to bury their children's remains when they return from serving Bushco.

[kentuck]

24. Quite tempting if you don't have a job...

I would think...

[Bluebear]

25. And the govenment knows it. n/t

[ooglymoogly]

26. and we will give you this fine used hummer and some snake oil

just in case you lose a few limbs on this all expense paid vacation to see the world...trust us, would we lie to you?....remember we're the good guys...so truly you can trust us...really...honest

[yellowcanine]

27. The Army is also having a recruiting stand-down on May 20 to

review the rules which some recruiters have been breaking.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050511/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/army_recruiting_1&printer=1

[Lugnut]

28. I wonder

How many suckers will fall for this ruse? You know there will be at least a handful.

[OneBlueSky]

29. there are an awful lot of completely uninformed and stupid kids . . .

out there who will fall for this scam . . . many of them will likely lose their lives or be maimed in Iraq, Afghanistan, Iran, or who knows where else . . . disgusting bait and switch . . .

[Horse with no Name]

31. I'm thinking that people should get very involved in their school

districts and insist they have parent/student meetings to discuss these types of contracts before anyone signs. Would be nice if there were lefty lawyers out there who would volunteer their time to these types of missions.
You can't have a wart removed in the hospital without being told you might die, it doesn't seem right that these people can be misled so wrongly and not have complete informed consent.

[malmapus]

32. Did they do away with the 2 year?

When I signed up you had the option of 2 years or 4. Did they just make it 4 since I ETS'd?

[Ilsa]

33. Another reason for Bush to screw up the economy for poor folks...

he needs more cannon fodder. Can't have any potential soldiers out in the work force finding good-paying jobs.

[Pam-Moby]

34. If this is such a good deal, then I hope

Bushes daughters have taken advantage of this opportunity for them to go for 15 months. Barf

[noamnety]

36. The "Try One" program worked well

Try one year, and after that, you we decide if you'll stay in or not.

I guess after the law suits from that program, they decided they needed something totally different. Hmmmm, maybe 15 months instead of 12, that's completely different!

[HeeBGBz]

37. Yeah, right

Once they're in, it's stop loss time.