Bolton Nomination Thread#4 - Obama: Bolton is not impressive at all

[sabra]

http://www.c-span.org/watch/cspan3_wm.asp?Cat=TV&Code=CS3

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[sabra]

1. Obama is hitting hard

I am impressed.

[FreedomAngel82]

9. He is

:) I'm enjoying this.

[LSparkle]

2. Take THAT, Lamar Alexander!

How can these jerks even TRY to assert that all of Bolton's shortcomings are OVERRULED by his qualifications?

"In spite of, not because of" -- PERFECTLY PUT, Senator O.!

[sabra]

5. indeed, the fact that he is a wildman is just a bonus...

[Craig3410]

3. What's the vote right now?

[sabra]

7. It will most likely go to the floor

Here's what it looks like right now:

NO:
Biden
Boxer
Feingold
Dodd
Kerry

Yes:
Lugar
Alexander
Allen
Coleman
Chafee

Reluctantly yes:
Voinovich
Hagel

[LSparkle]

10. I think you have it right.

And they're going to get it wrong.....

[housewolf]

19. Looks to me like it's going to go down to a party-line vote

to confirm and send to the full senate.


On the one hand, that's good news because it means that it's not over yet, there's still a chance to defeat him.

On the other hand...

:argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh:

[spuddonna]

4. Obama is destroying his 'qualifications'!

Bolton is just one of many Bush appointees who are uniquely UNqualified for their positions...

It's the Bush job creation program: "An idiot is a terrible thing to waste..."

[Sydnie]

6. "An idiot is a terrible thing to waste..."

Well Said!!!!

[FreedomAngel82]

11. That's great!

LOL. Love it! That should be said for our dear leaders as well. Reading too much into an individual's behavior?! WTF?

[LSparkle]

8. "How will Mr. Bolton reform the U.N.?"

He's already told us -- get rid of 10 floors! He's got the Bush chainsaw fixation -- if it don't work, RAZE IT.

[aldian159]

14. For the first tme, I'm proud I voted for him

NT

[Marnieworld]

37. You should have been proud when he worked for Byrd

I don't have a link but recently he campaigned for donations for Senator Byrd's re-election. Any guy working for Byrd is a good guy iMO.

[Coexist]

16. an idiot is a terrible thing to waste

wow, that's great

[LSparkle]

12. "All of the above"

Who said that?

Sununu just dissed one of my idols, Adlai Stevenson. I HATE HIM!!!!

[sabra]

13. Sununo spewing right now...

[LSparkle]

15. Spewing indeed

He reminds me of Bolton himself in his snideness. They both remind me of 14-year-old bullies ...

[spuddonna]

17. Sununu:"How can you determine how..."

"...a person will react in this position by analyzing their individual actions..."

HUH? Uh, that's kinda the purpose of the committee?

And "...the idea that John Bolton hates the UN - where did that idea come from?!"

HUH? He said "There is no UN"...if the building lost 10 floors, who cares???

and he's spinning the Smith and Westerman cases into 'concerns over proceedure'... arggh...

[LSparkle]

18. Duh, Sununu -- YES, that's what we're concerned about!

He WAS cavalier, he DIDN'T properly handle intelligence! Why else would Straw and the Brits want him out of the Libyan situation?

[sabra]

20. Murkowski speaking now

he has a different "management style"?

[LSparkle]

22. "BRILLIANT"????? At WHAT?

Driving people away? Inspiring fear in underlings?

This "kiss-up, kick-down" style is just exactly what IdiotBoy wants to foster in this country. He wants this place run like a fucking corporation, where people who have somehow risen due to their "BRILLIANCE" are permitted to just run roughshod over everybody else .. in this case, the rest of the world.

I don't care how "BRILLIANT" the guy may be, he has no right to treat people beneath or lateral to him in the way he has, and he should not be REWARDED for that behavior.

[spuddonna]

21. Murkowski, PLEASE stop kissing Lugar's butt...

"Mr. Bolton has a management style that is very different from mine..."

Really? You don't throw office supplies at people? Hmm, I thought that was a new defacto Repugnican management standard!!

[sabra]

23. It's truly amazing how they phrase things trying to convey

it as now biggie!

[Chomp]

24. She's dumping on him!

[LSparkle]

25. I was just about to think so too but here she goes with ...

"this is the president's appointment".

HE IS NOT THE KING, YOU IDIOTS! Why did you all run for Senate in the first place if YOU WEREN'T GOING TO DO YOUR JOB OF ADVISING AND CONSENTING?

[Norquist Nemesis]

26. Yes, but now she's giving the okay

Twisted logic. There is no other word for it.

She clearly expresses all of her misgivings; then she turns it around to say, "Ah, that's okay. Now be a good boy, John."

[Daphne08]

28. She sure as heck is...

but, she is supporting him.

What is wrong with these people?

[spuddonna]

27. Murkowski: Yeah, he's totally wrong... So wrong, he's RIGHT!!

Ok, so she doesn't like how Bolton pushes the envelope, she doesn't like how he handled the North Korea, she doesn't like how he treats his people, but hey! The president wants him so, what are we waiting for?!!

[Chomp]

29. That is

the most shocking cop-out I have ever heard. What a fucking schill.

[LSparkle]

30. We now live in a dictatorship

As Murkowski just said, Bolton will be the "representative of the president." I thought the U.N. ambassador represented THE PEOPLE!!! Nope, not anymore -- there is no United States anymore, just Our Braindead Leader.

GRRRRRRR..........

[sabra]

31. Martinez up now...

[sabra]

32. read the talking points

blah blah blah

[Nevernose]

33. Alluding to the Larry Flynt allegations now--

Before quickly moving on to Mr. Ford's allegations.

[sabra]

34. I was wondering about that too?

[LSparkle]

35. "Mostly competent"

Don't we want someone who's "highly" or "very" ... not just "mostly" competent?

Yeah, he's a good "C" student just like Our Braindead Leader. That's what we want running this country, just good ol' "average guys."

Land of the Mediocre, home of the spineless.

[Nevernose]

How very "Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy!"

Mostly harmless.

[Norquist Nemesis]

36. Huh? Cuba had WMD continues to be US policy?

:wtf:

[sabra]

38. Nelson, is going to make it quick and sweet

[sabra]

41. NO!

[tx_dem41]

39. Bill Nelson....acting much unlike he usually does (lately). n/t

[spuddonna]

40. Nelson hitting the same note Obama did...

How do put a guy in with Bolton's background? He won't rally people to our side! Obama is absolutely right: all the human rights violators will be able to say, "He's a UN basher..." so how will we be able to press ANYONE to do ANYTHING?!!

Bolton did a crappy job doing arms control negotiations, and of course, let's promote his ass...

[LSparkle]

42. Nelson made some good points

Come on, Joe B., give us another performance like at the last near-vote ... GET HOT, BOY!

[spuddonna]

45. GO JOE!!

"Sometimes even when you're partisan, you are right!" lol

Look at all the officials that said "Bad idea!"

[sabra]

43. Biden wrapping up....

[LSparkle]

44. Yeah, Joe -- Condi REALLY wants him out of State ... NOW

They're racing to get him out of State before he can do any damage there or cause Condi any embarrassment. And whatever Condi wants ... Condi obviously gets.

There's got to be some other place they can "kick this guy upstairs" to.....except the U.N.!

[LSparkle]

46. Thanks, Joe, for defending Adlai!

And he's correct -- being tough in some circumstances can be effective. But Bolton is like the boy crying wolf: His toughness won't have the desired effect because it'll probably be written off by other UN representatives as just his "standard operating procedure".

[spuddonna]

47. Biden:"We promise he won't go off the reservation.."

"Do you think it's a good idea to nominate someone who you need to CONTROL?!"
sigh...Do these other Repugnicans have any idea of the DANGER of putting this idiot in the UN!!!

This is such a huge, bad developement...

[LSparkle]

48. Chimpy wants US out of UN -- so he sends this idiot to break it

It's so obvious that that is the M.O. I pray they don't, but this nomination sends such a negative signal to the rest of the world that I won't blame them if they begin to treat us as a pariah nation.

[spuddonna]

50. I agree...

But I keep hoping that they (Bush & Friends) truly are idiots and that they are just promoting their 'own', no matter what the cost... that they are not really planning to use Bolton as a 'nuclear option' in the UN...

But hey, I'm a pessimist... We are turning into Germany, and here we go! Vote the bastard in...

[sabra]

49. Biden: The majority does not have confidence in this nomination

[sabra]

51. here

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3645620

[NightOwwl]

52. How long before the confirmation goes to the Senate floor? n/t

[spuddonna]

53. Whoa, wait - reported but not recommended?

Did I hear that right?