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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 11:37 AM
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Did you see all the little piggies running from the wh to save themselves
from the big bad Cessna? All those suits in a full gait running as fast as they could out of that place like scared animals. It looked pathetic. Sure didn't make me feel too good about homeland security.
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 11:38 AM
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1. they were running to the nearest Bar...
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Ripley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 11:39 AM
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2. I was in class all day and missed it.
I'm glad I didn't have to see it. The theater of the absurd. You know most people don't even know or care about that. It has become laughable how foolish our government behaves.


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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 11:39 AM
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3. Jon Stewart had a great show last night on this. The policy of
Run for your lives is all they got?
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 11:42 AM
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4. I liked how the female police officer took time to SMILE for the
news cameras as she directed people to "safety".

:sarcasm:

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Ripley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 11:44 AM
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6. Well you can't blame a gal for wanting to look pretty!
I bet she put on some lipstick too. :nuke:
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 11:48 AM
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8. lol
:D
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 11:42 AM
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5. My first thought: "the terrorists won".
Living in fear is NOT living.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 11:46 AM
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7. The piggies are on the run, you have a point!
--Republicans deserting Bolton
--Ridge blows the whistle on fake tarra alerts (Cessna)
--LAT, CNN, ABC covering 2002 memo - all of a sudden

You watch, time for Delay to get indited by Earle in Austin and Fitzgerald to drop a document in DC.

It's the great unraveling. Watch for * to be "resigned" soon, after some grand stand gimmicks. When his handlers find it too risk to pull this shit, i.e., the plane, the plane, then we know we've won.

Great post. I'm reminded of being in the DC area on 911 and hearing that helicopters landed near the Capitol and tool ALL the congress members and family away. That was very heartening to those of us without a helicopter (assholes!). Had there been just one member of congress who went back to his desk, sat down and did his/her work saying "I'm not going to be chased off" that person would be our national leader today. Piggies is a most generous characterization. Wimps! Weenies! Weasels! would do also.
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 11:50 AM
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9. To quote Jon Stewart: "Eh....not so much..." According to
Wonkette, all was not what it seemed — the evacuation was "Drudgefied":

http://www.wonkette.com/politics/dc/evacuationgate-drudgeified-103280.php

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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 11:50 AM
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10. Makes Ms Madison look all the braver in comparison,
doesn't it?
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 11:53 AM
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11. I turned the TV on and thought I was watching Godzilla n/t
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 11:55 AM
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12. Shit! I'd run!!
They had no idea of the actual threat.. only that there was an "aircraft" threat. I'd run for my life. These people have families... you gonna sit in a building or just saunter away if you get official evacuation warnings that an aircraft is threatening? If your mom or dad worked in that building would you suggest that they stop to buy a candy bar on the way out? I'd all the way to Deleware and never look back if I thought a plane was going to divebomb the building...

I like roasting the repubs as much as the next person.. but I don't really get this one at all.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 11:59 AM
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13. The wh didn't know the real nature of the threat?
Come on.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 12:52 PM
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14. They still looked like little piggies n/t
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 01:03 PM
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15. I've been wondering lately if the good people that serve us in the
capital have a skewed view of the potential threats. I've seen pictures of DC with troops on the streets, AA batteries on the roofs, heavy police presence everywhere.

Wouldn't that tend to increase a sense of paranoia, inculcate a seige mentality among those who see it every day?

It seems that people in the hinterlands are far more vulnerable, but a lot less frightened, than people at the purported seat of power. Is this partly the cause of normally rational lawmakers supporting unsupportable moves by the right?

Any thoughts?
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 01:06 PM
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16. Run for your life little piggies!
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Rob Conn Donating Member (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 03:16 PM
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17. A little casual journalism suggesting a hoax
5/12/05

9/11 fact seekers are chuckling privately amongst themselves this week about the media coverage of the wayward Cessna that violated D.C. airspace on Wednesday. It would appear that the event has provided a timely opportunity for the Bush administration to counter a rising tide of media and public criticism regarding serious flaws in our national security that have not been adequately addressed since 9/11. For many who follow the administration closely, these perfectly timed PR events are far too frequent to be viewed any longer as merely coincidence.

The plane left Smoketown, PA in the afternoon with a pilot and trainee on a straight flight path heading directly over D.C. on their way to an air show in Luberton, NC. Every pilot in the North East knows you can't fly over D.C, especially a flight instructor. Before they entered restricted airspace, the military attempted to contact them, however their radio was 'not operating properly'. Later they shot flares at them to redirect their path, but that was also unsuccessful. So the jets were scrambled.

"Two F-16 fighter jets joined by a Blackhawk helicopter and a Citation jet from the Department of Homeland Security, confronted the private plane in time to shoot it down..." - L.A. Times, John Hendren, 5/11/05

Before it reached the Capitol, that is. The pilot later claimed to have been flying intentionally without navigation instruments, and that they became lost, despite having been traveling in their intended direction upon interception. The story doesn't hold water. Sounds a little too much like the type of gross incompetence used as an excuse for the failures on 9/11.

The response of our military appears to have been swift and effective. Very much as it had been on many previous occasions. With one clear exception. The military was able to ground the plane in Maryland, but not before they had started a full evacuation of government buildings in the Capitol. Evidently the bunch haven't had too many terror drills, because some of our legislators panicked, and went running wildly through the streets. Most news stories of the event make it clear that we intercepted the plane before it became a real threat to the Capitol. Most also make it clear that there were four aircraft deployed to handle one Cessna. Personally, I figure the Blackhawk could handle the situation by itself, and probably should have. The jets fly too fast to make good visual contact, which is the first priority in such an interception. Instead we hear news stories of an overwhelming response, and successful application of safety procedures. So the pilots lied, the military response was dramatic, and the story comes right on the heels of several news stories in the past couple weeks about the inadequacy of our "Homeland" defenses. We might ask ourselves if this is all just a coincidence. And we might also think we have the most probable answer to that question. Lets consider what is likely a related example.

The capture of Saddam Hussein has turned out to be as much a hoax as the rescue of Jessica Lynch. Both were produced by a secret Hollywood production team working closely with administration PR firms. Its like watching 'reality' warfare. Every fact is manicured for our reception.

"Sergeant Nadim Abou Rabeh, who participated in the operation that netted Saddam, was quoted in the Saudi newspaper "Al-Medina" saying that the Iraqi leader was actually captured the day before and that "the public version of his capture was fabricated." The entire event was apparently choreographed by a Pentagon public relations team." - Counterpunch.org, Mike Whitney, 3/11/05

It turns out that he's not telling the whole story either. A few sources turned up suggesting that the Kurds had captured him, and that our military had taken him from the Kurds, and then taken credit by producing yet another 'dramatic re-enactment' of events. The Kurds were vocally pissed for a couple of weeks, but no one ran the stories, and they were intimidated by someone(?) to cease their kvetching. Says the author, "We only hear one side. And this administration not only gives us just one side, but makes it up as they go. They exercise a blatant disregard for the principle of public oversight that is the foundation of journalism. The media are used as tools for manipulation rather than education to the extent that stories are created or molded to fit the desired interpretation."

Back to the Cessna. A front-page NY Times article on 5/7/05 stated that, "After spending more than $4.5 billion on screening devices to monitor the nation's ports, borders, airports, mail and air, the federal government is moving to replace or alter much of the anti-terrorism equipment, concluding that it is ineffective, unreliable or too expensive to operate." So what the government has implied, in the interest of spending more money, is that we have not been safe for the past four years. That's some really bad PR for Homeland Security and the Bush administration. Five days later its Homeland Security Jet to the rescue. And scaring a few of those legislators who just voted a half-billion dollar cut in the Homeland Security budget couldn't hurt the cause. Low cost, few witnesses, and a big payoff. Bingo? You decide. Either way, hoax or not, the administration is definitely getting a couple of miles out of this one, but also giving the fact seekers something to chew on. The whole event dramatizes the incredible lack of response encountered by the 'hijacked' airplanes on 9/11. Thankfully, they rarely get to have their cake and eat it too. - R.C.
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