Voinovich sounds like he's going AGAINST Bolton!

[Walt Starr]

YAY!!!!!!!

HURRAY FOR VOINOVICH!!!!!!

[Alizaryn]

1. He is making a GREAT case!

Cross your fingers! (I am waiting for the ...BUT...)

[Call me Deacon Blues]

2. I think you're right!

Thank God!

[rogerjab]

3. If true, and I think you're right

doesn't that give them a tie at best. I thought for sure they'd get to Voinovich, appears not.

[Walt Starr]

4. A tie still goes to the floor for an up or down vote

but could be filibustered.

[ET Awful]

7. I don't believe a tie gets out of committee in this case. n/t

[Darkhawk32]

8. I thought that Biden and Lugar discussed that a tie vote stays IN the ...

committee, therefore no Senate floor vote.

[ET Awful]

5. But a tie means Bolton never gets out of committee, which is fine.

Works for me.

[Walt Starr]

9. I thought ties went to the floor

:shrug:

[ET Awful]

14. Not from what I've heard, which is why so many people were

happy when Voinovich stood up a few weeks back.

[converted_democrat]

6. Are you sure?

Oh god I hope soooooo. Are you guys watching it live? I've got C-span but I don't see it on.

[rogerjab]

11. C-Span 3 on your computer nt

[davepdx]

12. Stream it From C-Span.org

It's on C-Span3.

[converted_democrat]

16. thank you!!!!!!

[PKG]

10. I'm afraid to be happy.

Are we certain he's going against the Moustache?

[converted_democrat]

13. You know what?

I'm afraid to be happy too. Seems like they got us where they want us, huh? I hate this administration. I HATE them. I wanna be happy again!

[PKG]

19. And it appears as if I had good reason to hold out on celebrating.

[lonestarnot]

15. OMG Hope you are right...can't listen have to get to work! Will check bac

[Lerkfish]

17. sorry, nope. Voinovich has reservations but still votes yes to send

his nomination to the floor.

sorry, guys.

[SCDem]

18. Did he vote yes or are you just speculating?

[PKG]

20. He voted to send to floor without recommendation.

Which means he'll be confirmed.

[SalmonChantedEvening]

23. Gelatin George strikes again.

Must've told him the usual:

"You say no to this and we'll kill you in the primaries in 2006"

:grr:

[Lerkfish]

24. I WISH I was just speculating. nope. that's what happened, he recommended

sending the nomination WITHOUT recommendation, which is meaningless. Its a way to have it both ways: to object to the choice of Bolton but to allow it regardless.

[converted_democrat]

21. Great.......

Now Bolton will go to the U.N. and we will most likely go to war with Iran. Watch and see. They had to get Bolton in so he can cram the war with Iran down there throats. AAHHHHH

[Lerkfish]

26. unfortunately, you are correct, IMHO.

I figure we start sanctions immediately through the UN of Iran, perhaps also Syria.
In a very quick clip, because I believe their schedule is to invade or bomb the heck out of Iran by August at the latest, and probably sooner.

[converted_democrat]

29. Yep....

I figure he will threaten the U.N. of being disbanded or a deal to "forget" about the oil for food program. Wanna, bet?

[aaronnyc]

28. Where are you getting this from?

I saw Voinavich's speech, and didn't see where he said that he would "vote for Voinavich despite some reservations."

Did I miss something?

[Lerkfish]

31. sorry, to clarify...

I was watching the webstream, and heard him say (my summary) boltn was not the best choice, but voin would not go against the other republicans wanting to send him to the floor for a vote. His suggestion would be to send him for a vote "without recommendation", which essentially means, as I understand it, with no attending fact-finding, just an up or down vote.

obviously, its not on the floor yet for an up or down vote, I meant he said "yes" to send the nomination to the floor.

sorry if my wording was confusing.

[Bozita]

22. Wonderin' whether Voinovich saw the Larry Flynt stuff

[Deep13]

25. just sent him an email

thanking him for doing his best to find the truth.

[Lerkfish]

well, yes, but so what?

He found out he's the worst possible choice, but did nothing to stop it.
That's the same result as if he'd not found out the truth.

meh.

[Deep13]

30. He hadn't done that then.

He had not announced, or at least I had not heard that he was going to vote to close debate when I sent it.

[KharmaTrain]

27. Biden On MSNBC

Joe's rubbing it in. This is gonna be a great hearing to catch on replay. I can't wait for Barbara to get her shots in. Hopefully CSPAN will replay it this afternoon.

BTW...I have a feeling the Flynt stuff worked its way to some hands...and I could swear Voinovich allueded to it when he mentioned "previous behavior I won't get into".

:popcorn: