Squabbling already happening with the Bolton nomination

[sabra]

http://www.c-span.org/watch/cspan3_wm.asp?Cat=TV&Code=CS3

Biden and Lugar can't agree with the format of the debate...

[sabra]

1. Biden: "This is not how we do it on the Senate floor!"

[rodeodance]

2. please keep us informed (my 2 cpan channels have the House and Sen

on!!!

[sabra]

7. view it online

http://www.c-span.org/watch/cspan3_wm.asp?Cat=TV&Code=CS3

[KoKo]

22. Thanks for the link....it works for me and I'm "Dial Up." n/t

[Dudley_DUright]

23. Thanks, I was dissapointed it was not on C-SPAN or C-SPAN2

[woodsprite]

4. Yeah, Lugar tried to push the format thru before Biden even got there.

[Pirate Smile]

11. Boxer asked Lugar to explain it all again after Biden arrived. Biden

didn't like it much.

That damn train.

He is always running in late.:)

[Pirate Smile]

30. Andrea Mitchell on MSNBC - talking about how Lugar said he is

using the Senate floor rules in the Committee but he is actually using neither - floor or committee rules. He is using his position to control the Hearing, i.e. making up his own rules. Hmmm. Sounds familiar.

[AlCzervik]

3. thanks for posting, i'm working right now

and i won't be able to watch which is killing me.

[Solly Mack]

5. Lugar "Bolton should be confirmed"

-he repeated the he's already been confirmed before line...

[Solly Mack]

8. Lugar: "Bolton hasn't always acted exemplary" BUT

he never broke the law -so, confirm him.

[Solly Mack]

10. Lugar: "Bolton's diplomatic successes" (huh?)

he's basically saying yes, Bolton has faults but he's done a wonderful job

[Solly Mack]

12. Lugar is now claiming Bolton thinks well of the UN and it's role in

international security....

[Solly Mack]

13. Lugar now using the tired old "The President should have who he wants"

line...(no matter how bad that person is for America)

[Solly Mack]

14. Lugar: "Bush said Bolton represents his exact feelings about the UN"

and how it should be "reformed"

[Solly Mack]

17. Lugar: "If Bolton reforms UN,UN will have more credibility w/ Americans"

and other such bovine caca

[Solly Mack]

21. Lugar acknowledging (grudgingly) the senates rights in questioning

any nominee....but is also scolding the democrats for opposing Bolton for what amounts to nothing to his thinking

[Solly Mack]

24. Lugar is now saying a cabinet member or policy maker

that isn't part of Congress still has, in spirit if not by actual policy, a right to be free from prosecution for things said or acted on while in "session" (course of duty)

[Solly Mack]

26. OK. I'm really tired of having my brain cells monologued to death

by Lugar.

[July]

31. Wow, high standards, huh?

"never broke the law"

Superb qualification, no?

[Solly Mack]

32. Exactly. He's unethical and a liar but he never broke a law

though he (Lugar) skirted on what breaking a law meant later on...

[KansDem]

58. "Never broke a law?"

Where I live, forcing someone into group sex is breaking the law...

But then, so is child sex and prostitution.

[Solly Mack]

59. I know that and you know that...Lugar doesn't know that it seems

[Not_Giving_Up]

6. I don't get C-Span 3

Streaming on my dialup is a joke. Please keep us updated!

[sabra]

9. Lugar is going through the usual praise Bolton shchpiel...

[Pirate Smile]

15. I muted it and put Stephanie Miller back on until some of the Dems

get to talk. I don't want to listen to Lugar drone on for an hour about why he is voting for Bolton, even though he knows he shouldn't.

Before the Hearing started, Stephanie Miller had a hilarious bit about Bolton meeting with Lisa Murkowski. He was chasing her around, calling her a harlot and shoving papers under the door. LMAO.

[AlCzervik]

16. Is Luigar praising of Bolton just in his opening statement or is he still

having a pissing contest with Biden?

[sabra]

18. Opening statement

[sabra]

19. Lugar: "if we don't nominate Bolton, we would have wasted alot of time"

Well there you go, you convinced me!

[AlCzervik]

20. Like they don't waste huge amonts of time on everything?

come on Lugar, grow a sack.

[ProfessorGAC]

25. Well, The Administration Sent Him Up There

What? They didn't know he would be a controversial choice? They didn't know it would be difficult, at best, to get his nomination approved?

If anybody wasted your time, Dicky-boy, it was Li'l Georgie and his gang.
The Professor

[KoKo]

27. I had hopes Lugar would be fair. But, he's showing his true Repug

stripes. And, he seems really worked up, unlike his usual carefully worded speech he sounds angry.

It's hard to listen to him...so waiting for Dems to come on. It's going to be hard to refute Lugar since he's discounted every bit of info which shows why Bolton shouldn't be nominated.... Doesn't seem to have left any cracks there for the other Repugs to wiggle through if they don't want to vote for him, and that's not good.

[Solly Mack]

28. He's hitting all the rw talking points...one by one

[G_j]

35. you should have seen him last time around

trying to shut down debate and ram Bolton through.

[sabra]

29. Lugar: "We could not find any backing to the Moscow chasing allegations"

[sabra]

33. Lugar: "No one in DC would come unscathed with a similar type of..

investigation". So what exactly are you admitting to here?

[Solly Mack]

34. Precisely.

He's basically saying everyone in DC is as bad as Bolton...

[KoKo]

37. Now he's trashing Dodd and Biden saying they did the same partisan

stuff when they were in power. He's accusing them of Partisanship pretty much saying that nothing that's come forward about Bolton is true, it's just "unproven allegations" from "anonymous sources."

He's pretty disgusting. Now he's giving the list of PNAC'ers who support Bolton....HaHaHaHaHaHaHa..... It's as if Dems are all liars and only Repugs know the truth. I have to mute it...he's driving me crazy...

[Solly Mack]

40. All dates given under Clinton...no accident that

[Solly Mack]

36. Lugars trying to pre-empt the wife swapping questions

"some things are not open to questioning"

[sabra]

38. Lugar, "James Baker and Henry Kissinger endorse Bolton"

perfect!

[Solly Mack]

39. That list read like the who's who of rw elite

[Spazito]

49. Wow, Baker who protects the Saudis against US victims of

9/11 and Kissinger, a war criminal, vouch for Bolton, and Luger thinks this is good??? Geez

[slor]

41. I cannot believe they are going to hire that creep...

lugar going on and on, they show they are not backing down, let us all now pray that the all the Dems and the few rethugs will go against him.

[sabra]

42. OK, Lugar we get the point, can we get to the debate already?

PLEASE!

[Solly Mack]

43. Lugar: in a nutshell "Bolton is what's best for the UN"

blech

[sabra]

44. Voinivich speaking now...

He has a concerns about Bolton! Could he break the party line?

[slor]

45. Voinovich is sounding like a NO!!

YeehAAAA!

[sabra]

47. Could it be?

[slor]

50. He is saying Diplomacy is important...

he is going with a NO!!!!

[slor]

53. Voinovich is a NO!!!!!!

[Dudley_DUright]

52. Sound like a no to me!

[Solly Mack]

46. Voinovich speaking now

[Solly Mack]

54. Speaking of deaths in Iraq (he calls the number over 1500)

applauding Bush and Rice..."US does respect international law and protocol"

Applauds Karen Hughes

Wants to know what message we send the world when we nominate /confirm Bolton...

He's sounding like he may vote NO

but it came with a heck of a lot of bullshit.

[Dudley_DUright]

48. Lugar: President deserves to have who he wants representing HIM at the UN

HIM??? He is representing us, not that idiot in the whitehouse.

[paineinthearse]

55. Hey dick, ever heard of checks and balances, or advice and consent?

No pulp fiction writer could ever dream up a better name for a gun-toting, cigarette-smoking, streetwise private eye.

[sabra]

51. Let's contine a second thread, starting with Voinovich

[paineinthearse]

56. link?

[sabra]

57. sorry

here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=3643447&mesg_id=3643447