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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 07:08 AM
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shall we call yesterday's Cessna fiasco "5-11"?
Edited on Thu May-12-05 07:13 AM by mopaul
the day the government shut down and ran screaming as if godzilla himself was smashing d.c. the day the whole of the television news was spent reporting it breathlessly, as if it were a martian invasion.

5-11, the infamous day they shot two flares at a lost cessna, showing how totally they fucked up 9-11, the day FOUR PASSENGER JETS were allowed to be hijacked, three of which crashed into buildings in new york and d.c.

yesterday on 5-11, the PNAC needed another 'cessna event' to distract the easily distracted from the real news breaking in england about bush and blair and all the people who they caused to die in vain.

5-11 changed everything huh?

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Tesla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 07:12 AM
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1. I thought that for a moment yesterday
I thought I should count the days to 9/11 and seen what the number is.
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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 07:35 AM
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5. 666
No seriously 1338.
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femme.democratique Donating Member (969 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 08:45 AM
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14. Divide 1338 by 2, you got 669 - CLOSE ENOUGH!
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 07:12 AM
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2. Who KNOWS what horror they have planned for July?
They can co-opt with Southland Corporation to turn the terror event into a marketing gimmick too!
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 07:14 AM
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3. I hadn't given much thought to 5-11
Run with it!
:rofl:
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 07:16 AM
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4. 9-11, now 5-11....
....let's fill out the calendar year

6-11 will be the invasion of Iran
7-11 nuking North Korea
8-11 invasion of Syria
10-11 Israel annexes Lebanon
11-11 Delta Airlines lets taxpayers pay its employee pensions
12-11 Toyota takes over GM

As for 2006, well it may still be too early, but add your predictions:

1-11
2-11
3-11
4-11
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bushisanidiot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 07:37 AM
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6. NORAD scrambled jets yesterday for one little plane and NONE on 9-11-01
Edited on Thu May-12-05 07:48 AM by bushisanidiot
until hours after several planes had been kamakazeed into buildings in 2 different states.

NORAD also scrambled jets when Payne Stewarts plane veered off course several years ago. Yet, NOTHING was done on 9/11/01 to stop the attack.

I still want to know who gave the command for NORAD to stand down on 9/11??~!!
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 07:43 AM
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9. You'll never find the elusive stand down command
because there isn't one. They just never gave the command to stand up. The top leadership of the US disappeared for over an hour during the attack. Everyone else was then left to their own devices and ended up running around like chickens with their heads cuts off. That was exactly what they had planned.

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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 07:57 AM
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10. Yeah, wasn't it reported Rummy sat in his office oblivious to the WWT
incidents until the Pentagon had been struck. Unbef***ing unbelievable for if he did not known until then, Houston (and America) we have a problem, a huge, very serious communications problem.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 08:15 AM
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12. Victoria Clark informed Rumsfeld when the first tower was hit
Rummie was in a meeting with Paul Wolfowitz, Rep Cox and others. Wolfowitz is quoted has saying that since THERE WAS NOTHING THEY COULD DO ABOUT IT, they continued with their meeting.
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 08:54 AM
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18. Oh. My. GOD.
That just blows my mind. NOTHING THEY COULD DO ABOUT IT?

WTF?????
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 08:56 AM
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19. I do seem to have recalled reading this, but one can't believe everything
one reads. This story is even better: no cause to unnecessarily utilize fighter defense assets for what might be an attack on America. Unbef***ingly unbelievable in either case for neither story makes any sense at all.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 01:49 PM
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21. Believe it - here's the link to the story on the DOD website
Paul Wolfowitz

Q: One is, where were you on September 11th? Were you at the Pentagon when --

Wolfowitz: I was in my office. We'd just had a breakfast with some congressmen in which one of the subjects had been missile defense. And we commented to them that based on what Rumsfeld and I had both seen and worked on the Ballistic Missile Threat Commission, that we were probably in for some nasty surprises over the next ten years.

Q: Oh, my gosh.

Wolfowitz: I can't remember, then there was the sort of question of what kind of nasty surprises? I don't remember exactly which ones we came up with. The point was more just that it's in the nature of surprise that you can't predict what it's going to be.

Q: Do you remember then the impact of the plane into the Pentagon? Or had you first heard stories about New York? What was --

Wolfowitz: We were having a meeting in my office. Someone said a plane had hit the World Trade Center. Then we turned on the television and we started seeing the shots of the second plane hitting, and this is the way I remember it. It's a little fuzzy.

Q: Right.

Wolfowitz: There didn't seem to be much to do about it immediately and we went on with whatever the meeting was. Then the whole building shook. I have to confess my first reaction was an earthquake. I didn't put the two things together in my mind. Rumsfeld did instantly.

Q: Did he really?

Wolfowitz: Yeah. He went charging out and down to the site where the plane had hit, which is what I would have done if I'd had my wits about me, which may or may not have been a smart thing to do. But it was, instead the next thing we heard was that there'd been a bomb and the building had to be evacuated. Everyone started streaming out of the building in a quite orderly way. Congregated on the parade ground basically right in front of the Pentagon which would have been about the worst place to have a crowd of a couple of thousand people in that moment if we'd again had our wits about us. But we were out of the building anyway.

Q: Let me ask you then about the next couple of days. There is --
Wolfowitz: Just to complete it. We went back into the building and that was an experience I won't ever forget. There was a huge fire, there was smoke gradually filling -- not all, just the small number of us who were basically in the command group. Rumsfeld was there and General Myers who was still the Vice Chairman at that point. The Chairman was on his way back from overseas and I was there. We were in the National Military Command Center and there was this acrid smoke gradually seeping into the place. Rumsfeld simply refused to leave. He finally made me leave, which I was not happy about.
I went up to this bizarre location that was prepared to survive nuclear war.

Q: Really?

Wolfowitz: Yes.

Q: In the Pentagon.

Wolfowitz: No, no. Way out of town.

Kellems: That's why he left, was to separate them.

Q: I see.

Kellems: To provide continuity.

http://www.defenselink.mil/transcripts/2003/tr20030509-depsecdef0223.html
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 02:15 PM
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22. Thanks, have bookmarked this (my first on a brand new harddrive)
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bushisanidiot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 08:44 AM
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13. NORAD is supposed to scramble jets automatically in particular
situations.. such as WHEN THE COUNTRY IS UNDER ATTACK. The president gives the order whether or not to shoot down a plane, but NORAD is still supposed to scramble the jets.. but none were scrambled.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 08:48 AM
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15. So who is supposed to tell them that we are under attack?
Edited on Thu May-12-05 08:49 AM by DoYouEverWonder
Rummie was too busy. So was General Myers. So was Cheney...


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bushisanidiot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 08:49 AM
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16. Sounds like "Too Busy" Rumsfeld is the one who told them to stand
down.
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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 07:39 AM
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7. I heard that one of Delay the Exterminator's Crop Dusters was missing nt
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Radio-Active Donating Member (735 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 07:40 AM
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8. check out this article..
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 08:12 AM
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11. how bout' a documentary called 'Scare in Flight 5-11"?
somebody call michael moore
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 08:53 AM
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17. We must have a moment of silence for all those
lives that were lost on 5-11-05.

Oh....wait. Nevermind.

:eyes:
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 08:56 AM
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20. Well there's been 9/11 and 3/11, so I guess 5/11 works?
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 03:27 PM
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23. 1 day later a picture is painted of bush being totally out of the loop
shameful. but it proves once and for all, bush is not the president, cheney is.
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 03:30 PM
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24. "5-11 changed everything"
:rofl:
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