Tinfoil Hat Speaking - But This Small Plane Thing Could Be Black Ops

[althecat]

... from the X files perhaps, but given the nature of things the following speculation is not impossible.

Lets say you want unhindered access to the Capitol.... for god knows what reason - spying, stealing etc. This small plane business provided the perfect cover.

And they are not even planning on charging these clowns. Probing media ought to find out a lot more about who these pilots were and how this happened. Did they have their radio switched off?

[FreedomAngel82]

1. They're not even charging them?!

WTF?! Protecting us from terrorism alright!

[gauguin57]

3. I heard the pilot who was flying may lose his pilot's license.

There also may be some sort of monetary penalty (restitution for some of the expenses of the kerfuffle) ... though they probably won't be criminally charged.

[gauguin57]

2. I'm pretty sure these are just two guys who made a mistake.

Family and friends being interviewed on local media here in Lancaster County, PA, where these guys live -- members of local air club that owns the Cessna. The regular pilot (as opposed to student pilot) is a retired truck driver ... I know someone who knows him and just thought it was pretty funny that they got themselves in so much trouble.

Neighbor of the student pilot said the wife was pretty freaked out when the FBI and media descended on their house.

Should be lots of local coverage tomorrow ... will post.

It really does sound like these are just two confused pilots from Amish Country!

[FreedomAngel82]

11. My question is

wouldn't they know NOT to fly there? There's just so many hole's I think. With this administration NOTHING would make me wonder. And don't forget there was a fire at the Captiol as well.

[screembloodymurder]

20. Lancaster County seems to have it's share of famous pilots.

One hit the Pentagon. One ran arms in Iran contra. Now this. Hmmm.

[ConsAreLiars]

4. I wondered about that

A great opportunity for a thief, with all those people vacating their posts. Assuming that there is anything of value in the WH, Supreme Court, Congress and EOB building, it was left unguarded.

That said, the criminals already have full control over those assets and wouldn't need to do this for that reason. Hyping fear seems a more likely motive, and gross incompetence an easier explanation.

[althecat]

6. ... or how 'bout enhancing the impression of "gross incompetence "

...afterall that is the basis of the entire 911 explanation.

Unfortunately these people are not as incompetent as they sometimes seem. Encouraging us victims to misunderestimate them is part of the game plan.

[ConsAreLiars]

10. You say "gross incompetence " is the basis of the entire 911 explanation.

(disinfo) and you are right. And you are certainly right in saying they are not incompetent. The hyping of this event for political ends is obvious. Whether this is MIHOP or LIHOP or it just happened and was used is not important, unless some new info about the pilots comes out. Sending people running into the streets was somebody's idea. Who? And Why? That is what matters.

[FreedomAngel82]

12. I think so too

There's something going on behind the scene's we don't know about. And I heard Malloy talking last night on his show that Limbaugh was going off on how Hillary was calm, cool and collected and everybody else was running around. Why was she that way? And did they really make them take off their shoe's?!

[July]

21. Hillary, like Kerry, probably figured it out.

In the 5 minutes I had the television on, I saw footage of Kerry outdoors, smiling and talking with someone. What on earth would running shoeless "towards the train station" do for anyone if a plane was going to divebomb a building or drop explosives? I was glad to see him, too, since I don't trust the Bush team. Chaos at the Capitol would be perfect cover for action against critics (yeah, I'm wearing my tinfoil hat).

Remember hearing that, on 9/11, John Edwards wouldn't go into a bunker because he would be separated from his family? To me, it shows that the guy is brave and has his priorities straight. I think Clinton and Kerry (and whoever else didn't get rattled) assessed the situation, figured they were relatively safe, and were therefore able to stay calm.

[JohnnyRingo]

5. Tighten up the tin foil and suppose they were govt agents causing a "stir"

to make the point to America that we must forget the goings on of Capitol Hill and realize how vulnerable we are to attack from the skies.

No harm, no foul, no charges.

[jobycom]

7. No, the pilots aren't the issue, the response to them is

DC air space is violated several times a year. They had a similar incident not long ago over the Craford pig farm. Just pilots who didn't bother checking out their charts before taking off.

What's odd about this one is the complete evacuation, the over-reaction, and the media hype.

I think it's just a normal incident, but the gov and the media (same thing, really) are using it to distract from the sudden interest in the British memo. You know, the one where they admit there is no nuclear research in Iraq but that they will fix the evidence?

To obscure that, Bush and his PR department (meaning the MSM) are praying for something big, and until they get it, they will overhype little stuff.

[althecat]

8. I think we may run a risk of misunderestimating *'s crew if you assume

.. this culture war is all about public positioning. A large part of the * agenda is about stealing from the US people. And this part of the agenda is not disorganised.

So you could be right that the pilots are not in on it.. but the over-reaction could still be for nefarious purposes.

Remember the big blackout? I'd bet dollars to donuts that that was about stealing something...

[jobycom]

15. I think you may underestimate the power of being God

Bush is God as long as he can control the media. He doesn't have to create blackouts to steal something. He owns the courts, he just walks in and takes what he wants. If someone evacuates the Capitol and then steals something, whoever possessed it will know it's gone, and raise a fuss. If BushCo tells the courts to sieze it, they take it right from under the nose of the possessor, and nothing can be done.

It is all about public positioning. The more people you get to look away from your right hand, the more that hand can make things disappear. He doesn't have to steal--that's for lightweights.

[lala_rawraw]

9. Let's say you wanted to see

What people had on Bolton... quick, get everyone out. Could work. I am still trying to figure out how an entire city went into panic mode over a plane that no one had seen, heard, noticed until it was 3 miles from the brick house?

[AntiCoup2K4]

13. Would be a great time to install a "sprinkler system", wouldn't it?

Kinda like the "sprinkler system" they installed in the World Trade Center about a week or two before it inexplicably fell down just like a controlled demolition.......

[gauguin57]

14. AP: Pilot worried about restricted airspace

http://www.lancasteronline.com/pages/news/ap/4/pa_capital_pa


SMOKETOWN, Pa. (AP) - A student pilot aboard a single-engine airplane that flew within three miles of the White House on Wednesday, triggering a brief panic, had fretted the day before about avoiding restricted airspace, his father said.

Troy D. Martin and Hayden "Jim" Sheaffer were released without charges after authorities said they concluded the men simply got lost.
The flight rules had been a concern of Martin's when he discussed the pair's plans to fly from Smoketown Airport in Lancaster County to attend an air show in North Carolina, said his father, Mel Martin.

"The last thing he said before he left was ... 'I hope we can avoid those no-fly zones,'" Mel Martin told reporters outside his son's home in Akron, Pa., shortly after learning that the men were being released.

Troy Martin ... also told his wife, Jill, that he was aware of flight restrictions. "Troy was discussing with me last night, after they made their flight plans, all about the no-fly zones and how they were going to avoid them. He said they were going to fly between two different restricted areas," Jill Martin said Wednesday. But somehow the two men ended up flying straight toward the government buildings in downtown Washington before aircraft were dispatched to intercept and escort them to an airport in Frederick, Md.

[funflower]

16. That's serious tinfoil you've got there.

:tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat:

[bklyncowgirl]

17. Don't know about black ops but wouldn't put it past Rove & Co.

Let's see, in the last two weeks we've had explosives go off at the British Embassy in NY, a grenade left near what we've heard is a US paid for rally in the Republic of Georgia and now a plane strays over DC airspace causing pretty much the entire damn city to flee in a panic--while at the same time the Chimp in Chief is merrily riding his bike through a forest without even an inkling that anything is going on in Washington.

Bush's ratings are tanking, he's having trouble getting his nominees through and the public is highly skeptical of his social security proposals.

Sounds like time for a terror alert if you ask me.

[ariellyn]

18. Aren't there more important things to worry about? This is

something that will never be proven and the whole thing was of no real consequence.

[Q]

19. Consequence? Who knows...but it is telling that...

...they were able to scramble military jets in a hurry...bringing up the question: where were they on 9-11? The thing is...this same system of scrambling military jets to intercept 'errant' flights was in place before 9-11 but wasn't used on that day? Why?


Today: May 11, 2005 at 20:52:52 PDT
Errant Flight Prompts Capital
Evacuations
By DONNA CASSATA
ASSOCIATED PRESS
WASHINGTON (AP) -
0511dv-evacuation3 A small plane strayed within
three miles of the White House on Wednesday,
leading to frantic evacuation of the Executive
Mansion and the Capitol with military jets scrambling
to intercept the aircraft and firing flares to steer it
away.