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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 08:55 PM
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Inside the mind of a serial child molester - Parents should read this
http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGBNH399M8E.html

Former California Priest Reveals Details of Abuse in Deposition

SAN FRANCISCO (AP) - A former priest who was deported after serving time for child molestation revealed disturbing details of his attraction to children when lawyers traveled to his village in Ireland for a two-day deposition. snip

O'Grady, 59, served seven years in a California prison for molesting two brothers while he was a parish priest. He was later removed from the priesthood and deported to Ireland, where he's lived since 2001. He admits molesting as many as 30 children.

O'Grady went into extensive detail about his years of abusing children at various churches in Northern California and the abuse he claims he suffered as a child.

O'Grady said he was molested by two priests and his own brother when he was a child, and admitted molesting his younger sister. He said he preferred girls and boys between 8 and 10 years old, who were slim-built, friendly, affectionate and playful, not those who were "forward and aggressive." snip

O'Grady said in his deposition that he always admitted to his crimes in the confessional and he wished his superiors had gotten help for him earlier.

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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 08:59 PM
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1. Oh my. So we should encourage obese unfriendly kids in order to protect
them. EGADS.

The church knew ... once again and THEY did nothing. The Church officals should ALSO be prosecuted!
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cap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 09:02 PM
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2. ratzinger wants a smaller church does he?
who's going to pay the bills for these lawsuits?
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Vektor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 09:03 PM
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3. Scary - but I believe it.
I think the fact that I was a "forward and aggressive" kid protected me from a lot, to be honest. I am still pretty much NOT a shrinking violet, and though I'm very small, I often see certain males looking like they are about to hassle me, then when I meet their eyes, I see them think better of it and decide not to. I assume I carry myself in a certain way that makes me appear wiling to fight, or something.

This pervert's claims are a common thread among that type of predator. They handpick their victims very wisely - those who seem eager to please and are not too outspoken are often vulnerable.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 09:07 PM
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4. Isn't that sad! I am glad my kid has spunk, but she's also slim, friendly
and cute as heck. It does scare ya a bit. When you think about child stranger abjuctions ~ it's generally an attractive/friendly kid. :(
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Vektor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 09:45 PM
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6. Horrible!
These sickos prey on the child's good nature. It turns the stomach to even think about it.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 10:32 PM
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12. I meant "abductions" BTW.
Agreed, it "turns the stomach" ... literally.
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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 09:10 PM
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5. What's really mind blowing is that the sick fart believes
there is some possibility that he ever should have been a priest.
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 10:00 PM
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7. Most people miss this part each and every time...
"O'Grady said he was molested by two priests and his own brother when he was a child,...

The molester himself was molested as a child. The cycle needs to be broken.
Child molesters are made, not born. And quite often religion plays a part.
So what do we do? Toss them in prison for a few years. No attempt is made to find out why they do what they do.
When they get out, we make sure they cannot find or keep a job and where ever they live their picture and address is made know to all. How does that help anything? It doesn't.
There doesn't seem to be any treatment for child molesters. The lessons seem to be hard wired in the brain.
They do need to be kept isolated from children, but other than that, most are usually safe and productive.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 10:10 PM
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9. Exactly
I agree with you. The priests who took his confession should've told IMMEDIATLEY and gotten him professional help for his mind. We need to find out why they didn't tell. My guess is reptuation. If people knew a church down the road had this going on would they trust them? Simply wow.
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 11:17 PM
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20. Priests can't reveal what they're told in the confessional
and the law can't resuire it. A great deal of emphasis was placed on that when I was in pre-confession and communion classes.

All they can do is encourage the person making confession to tell the authorities, unless the rules have changed.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 10:11 PM
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10. What is it with people
defending child molesters????

Every thread on the subject someone comes up with this "they can be treated" crap.

Child molesters can be treated as much as gays can be treated. In short, they can't be. It's a sexual preference that's in there for good and we shouldn't take the risk of ever letting them out.

Lock them up and throw away the key.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 10:29 PM
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11. Are you reading the same post that I am that you responded to?
Because the poster never appeared to be defending child molesters at all. Look at what the poster said again:

>>>There doesn't seem to be any treatment for child molesters. The lessons seem to be hard wired in the brain.<<<

How do you construe that into meaning the poster says they can be treated or that he is defending them? Or did you just misread the post?

Don

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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 10:40 PM
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14. Sorry, misread
my bad....

I've just seen a lot of people arguing in favor of treatment and release, basically treating them like other criminals capable of rehabilitation.

Which I disagree with.

Sorry if I jumped on you unfairly.

:-(
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 11:01 PM
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18. I don't think they can be rehabilitated at the present time either
The only viable option appears to be keeping them locked up permanently. I wish there was some cure. And maybe there will be some day? But until that day we have to protect the children first. Take care and see you later.

Don

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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 10:34 PM
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13. The only way to isolate them from children is to keep them in jail.
Children exist everywhere else. That's ONE way to break the cycle as the average offender has over 100 victims before caught.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 10:44 PM
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17. I tend to agree with your assessment n/t
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 11:51 PM
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22. Pure evil
I say this because the victims are forever altered. Some child victims grow up to prey on other children, the others usually are drawn to abusers in their adult life, and/or have extreme difficulty forming healthy relationships and often engage in self destructive behavior.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 10:04 PM
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8. Oh wow
So the priests who took his confession knew about him but did NOTHING? My God.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 10:41 PM
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15. Now wait a minute! He had to say ten Hail Mary's.
Tough to crack jokes in this thread ... but that's about all they did. :(
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 10:42 PM
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16. As far as child molesters go, in general
When my kids were small (two pretty little girls, age 3 and 5), a friend said her brother wanted to take me out. Mind you, I had never met him and he had no idea what a horrid bitch I am.;)
This guy was gorgeous. Built well. Polite.
I met him at a barbeque. Nice guy. Was really sweet to my kids.
So, I wondered, why would he need to be fixed up with someone?
Got to talking to him, you know, what do you? Where do you work?
Wow, thats a good job, how long have you been there? 6 months? Wow, what did you do before that. This and that--kind of drifted around. Wow. cool. Where did you drift around? Here and there. Cool. Before you drifted around, what did you do? Here again we get definite time frames, places he was, etc.
But there ws a really disturbing hole in his time frame of what he was doing and when and where he was doing it.
After some investigation, I found out that he had been in prison for child molestation. Oh and the "friend" that wanted to fix me up? No longer a friend,lol.
Many times--but not always--answers are there if you want to ask the questions. Some of the problems are that women get lonely and jump at the first guy that seems decent, with a good job, etc, without wondering what they did before.
Child molesters are out there. They target women with children and target their loneliness. They are wired differently and are not able to be rehabilitated. Personally, I would almost be happy that they were tattooed in a conspicuous place of what they are.
Of course this isn't feasible, but once a pedophile, always a pedophile. Not a treatable condition. Lock em up and throw away the key.

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yodermon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 11:07 PM
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19. Abuse begets abuse.
There are no abusers who were not themselves abused. None.
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all.of.me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 11:38 PM
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21. this was a friend of mine
his stepson busted him one summer (this is about 15 years ago). called the cops on him and claimed molestation. nobody believed this boy, who was about 13 at the time. we all thought he was being rebellious.

after a go-round for several days, my friend finally came to me and said it was true, that he'd been molesting that boy for a few years. yikes! that was even more unbelievalbe, but he had been molested as a child, too. it's a vicious cycle.

my friend did his 7 years in california prison. he recently got out, but i haven't seen him long enough to talk, except for hello. it's very sad for everyone.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 09:16 AM
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23. I thought of that little girl in Florida that the cops handcuffed...
...as I read this. No pervert will ever get over on that little girl. First off she doesn't have the personality a pervert is looking for. Second she would probably kick the pervert where it counts if one did try.

That is exactly the way I taught my two girls to behave when they were little. They were taught to take no shit from no one. Adult or otherwise. They are still that way now as adults. Show respect yes. But never let anyone ever get over on them. That goes for adults and other kids as well.

Yet we had people here at DU saying that little girl needed a good paddling to break her of that kind of attitude. To that I say bullshit. Any parent that goes that route is just asking for trouble in my estimation.

You don't want to "beat" a kids aggressiveness out of them. You want them to understand that there are perverts out there who will take advantage of a kid like that. You should never try and break down a kids only natural defense. Too many whack jobs out in this world.

You want them to keep that aggressiveness into their adulthood too. I bet most women who keep submitting themselves to an abusive husband were whacked around as little girls too. There is a connection there. I have never seen any studies on this but that is what I believe. I bet that little girl in Florida will never allow a man to beat on her when she grows up.

Don

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