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spooked911 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 02:18 PM
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Bush is a conspiracy theorist!
Edited on Wed May-11-05 02:20 PM by spooked911
http://slate.msn.com/id/2118394/

After World War I, the political right in Germany developed a myth called the "stab in the back" theory to explain its people's defeat. Though military leaders had helped negotiate the war's end, they fixed blame on civilian leaders—especially Jews, socialists, and liberals—for "betraying" the brave German fighting men. This nasty piece of propaganda was later picked up by Hitler and the Nazis to stoke the populist resentment that fueled their rise to power. America has had its own "stab in the back" myths. Last year, George W. Bush endorsed a revanchist view of the Vietnam War: that our political leaders undermined our military and denied us victory. Now, on his Baltic tour, he has endorsed a similar view of the Yalta accords, that great bugaboo of the old right.

Bush stopped short of accusing Franklin D. Roosevelt and Winston Churchill of outright perfidy, but his words recalled those of hardcore FDR- and Truman-haters circa 1945.
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Bush's cavalier invocations of history for political purposes are not surprising. But for an American president to dredge up ugly old canards about Yalta stretches the boundaries of decency and should draw reprimands.
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Because FDR kept many details of the Yalta agreements under wraps, people in Washington began whispering conspiratorially about "secret agreements." Soon, critics, especially on the far right, were charging that FDR and Churchill had sold out the people of Eastern Europe—charges that Bush's recent comments echo. They asserted that the ailing Roosevelt—he would die only weeks later—had come under the malign influence of pro-Communist advisers who gave Stalin the store.
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Frederik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 02:22 PM
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1. He's just repeating what he
heard around the dinner table as a kid. Maybe he doesn't even realize that it's not everybody's opinion. "We must not tolerate outragous conspiracy theories..."
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spooked911 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 05:02 PM
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8. I suspect that he hasn't really thought about it, merely he is
repeating an old right-wing complaint that he heard around the dinner table, as you say.
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Flying Dream Blues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 02:31 PM
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2. That speech was just so awful in so many ways...
critical of the leaders that * can't compare to in his wildest dreams (can you imagine how much HARD WORK FDR and Churchill did to make the world safe for his sorry *ss to come and destroy???), critical of a former President while visiting another country with whom we haven't had the warmest of relations, ignorant of the massive loss of life and incredible sacrifice on the part of the Russians.

It would be bad enough if that was just *'s opinion, but to think that his team of speechwriters came up with that breathtaking display of American arrogance and ignorance is just scary.
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spooked911 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 05:03 PM
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9. Exactly. It is an embarrassment-- but will our superficial media even
discuss this?
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Hobarticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 02:32 PM
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3. Totally embarrasssing....
How someone can blithely rewrite history for the sake of a sound bite escapes me.
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yorgatron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 02:54 PM
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4. htere was NEVER a plan to "win" in viet nam.
just as there's no plan to "win" in iraq.
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Hobarticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 03:01 PM
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6. Funny, he can juxtapose the two without a whiff of irony
Like that stupid bastard and the soulless ghouls he surrounds himself with ever had any plan to win in Iraq to begin with.

:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 03:00 PM
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5. great article, thanks for posting it
n/t
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 04:11 PM
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7. Saddam Hussein's trial is coming up. Neocons need a reason why
they supported the freak and other elites in the ME over democracy (they believe Kirkpatrick when she said the ME wasn't ready for democracy..and so the elitism continued and the growth of Islamism). That was quite a boo boo.

But as long as they can hide their actions in Iraq & the Middle East in the Cold War ... and them blame it all on the Liberal FDR for being a pussy... they have once again proven that right wing thinking & neoconservatism is a way that is perfect and without error.

Funny thing is, wasn't funny at the time, that FDR did all he could to try to get Americans and the conservatives in America especially to help save 'old Europe' from Hitler. And he couldn't convince them. To lift a finger. But Japan did.

Neocons also blame Woodrow Wilson for things getting out of control in Germany.

Rumsfield blames those Liberals in Turkey for the insurgency.

So busy drinking their own **** and putting the blame onto the other (liberal) for any failing.. that they just cannot stop.

Look for FDR to be responsible for neocon support of Saddam. IMHO
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