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SGBL Donating Member (141 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 01:09 AM
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Why are republicans so upset?
Edited on Wed May-11-05 01:12 AM by SGBL
I was listening to callers on cspan and every single republican seems SO pissed off. They keep talking about how the democrats are "obstructing" them.

Can anyone tell me WTF dimension they are living in? They control practically everything, yet we are "obstructing" them??? They can practically do anything they want, yet they aren't happy.

They're so pissed off but they have almost EVERYTHING. The callers were so angry. When are they going to be happy? Do they have to have complete theocratic dictatorship before the hate and anger stops?

I just can not understand it. It totally boggles my mind. These people are a combination of evil and nuts.
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NAO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 01:17 AM
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1. see article "Madness of Bush - Reflection of Our Collective Psychosis"
THE MADNESS OF GEORGE W. BUSH:
A REFLECTION OF OUR COLLECTIVE PSYCHOSIS

by Paul Levy
http://www.awakeninthedream.com/georgew.html

excerpt:

George W. Bush is ill. He has a psycho-spiritual dis-ease of the soul, a sickness that is endemic to our culture and symptomatic of the times we live in. In much the same way that a child's psychology cannot be understood without looking at the family system he or she is a part of, George Bush does not exist in isolation. We can view Bush and his entire Administration (Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice, Wolfowitz, etc), as well as the corporate, military industrial complex that they are co-dependently enmeshed with, the media that they control, the voters that support them, and ourselves as well, as interconnected parts of a whole system, or a "field." Instead of relating to any part of this field as an isolated entity, it’s important to contemplate the entire interdependent field as the ‘medium’ though which malignant egophrenia manifests and propagates itself. ME disease is a field phenomenon, and needs to be contemplated as such. Bush's sickness is our own.

Bush supporters are not merely disinterested in seeing that they are in denial of reality; on the contrary, they actively don’t want to look at this, which is to say they resist self-reflection at all costs. Bush and his supporters perversely interpret any feedback from the real world which reflects back their unconsciousness as itself evidence that proves the rightness of their viewpoint. All of Bush’s supporters mutually reinforce each other’s unconscious resistance to such a degree that a collective, interdependent field of impenetrability gets collectively conjured up by them that literally resists consciousness.

People who don't recognize Bush's illness and support him are unconsciously colluding with and enabling in the co-creation of the pathological field that is incarnating itself into the human family. People who support Bush become unwitting agents through which this non-local disease feeds and replicates itself. By supporting Bush they are collaborating with and becoming parts of the greater, interconnected and self-organizing field of the disease.

The situation is very analogous to when seemingly good, normal, loving Germans supported Hitler, believing he was a good leader trying to help them. The German people didn't realize that the virulent pathogen malignant egophrenia had taken possession of Hitler and was incarnating itself through him. By not seeing this and supporting Hitler, they became agents used by this non-local, deadly disease to propagate itself. This was a collective psychosis, and this is what is taking place in our country right now.

full article at above link
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NAO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 01:19 AM
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2. explanation for "Why do Bush Supporters Deny the Obvious"
WHY DO BUSH SUPPORTERS DENY THE OBVIOUS?
by Paul Levy
http://www.awakeninthedream.com/bushsupporters.html

excerpt:

To quote Stanley Hilton, Bob Dole’s former chief of staff and a long-time Republican, “George Bush makes Benedict Arnold look like a patriot. He makes Benedict Arnold look like George Washington. I mean that’s what we have- a criminal and traitor sitting in the White House pretending he is a patriot, wrapping himself in the flag.” The evidence of Bush and Company’s corruptness and duplicity is beyond overwhelming, and it is literally everywhere, staring us in the face. Why are so many people looking away and not noticing? I find myself no longer interested in trying to convince anyone of what a madman, criminal and traitor Bush is, though it’s not for lack of trying. What I find more fruitful is to contemplate why people who are supporting Bush are both unwilling and seemingly unable to see the evil that is playing out through him. People who follow Bush are in denial about something that to the overwhelming majority of the world could not be more obvious.

The denial of people who support Bush is a form of blindness. People who support Bush are refusing to look at what is right in front of their eyes, an evil that they themselves are complicit in and participating in by their denial. People who are following Bush are acting out of their unconscious. It is as if they have fallen asleep and are dreaming, entranced by their own projections. It is as if they are bewitched, having fallen under a spell. They are living in what John Kerry calls “a fantasy world of spin,” ignoring and oblivious to any facts that contradict their worldview. It is exactly like they are hypnotized, like they are brainwashed. People who follow Bush are behaving exactly like members of a cult who have blindly and unquestioningly given away their power to their leader. They have left behind their critical thinking, dis-connecting from their capacity to discern truth from fiction. Not to mention selling their soul in the bargain. People who support Bush are suffering from a collective psychosis. Why else would they be supporting a madman for President? It is shattering to look in the mirror and see that we, as a people, have gone temporarily mad.

There is a psychic epidemic manifesting in our country right now, and millions of people in our populace have fallen prey to it. There is no sense pretending otherwise. It is of the most profound importance that we notice and understand the psychological nature of the collective malady that we, as a people, are suffering from. Understanding the psychological nature of our illness gives us insight into how to treat it.

By looking away from what Bush is doing and naively supporting him, people are complicit in and feeding Bush’s malignant psychosis. There is something about the depth of depravity, though, that is enacting itself through the Axis of Evil represented by Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Ashcroft, Rice, Rove and others that is so dark that it induces in some of us a tendency to pretend that it isn’t really happening. The malevolent energy that is playing itself out through Bush is very hard to look at. People look away, as it is too horrific. The intensity of the evil provokes people to rationalize it, to justify it, to explain it away. It triggers a tendency in people to fall asleep. We like to imagine that people couldn’t be THAT corrupt, THAT two-faced, THAT evil. It is truly shocking to see the depth of depravity a human being can fall into. It is doubly shocking when we realize that these criminally insane individuals control the most powerful nation on earth.

full article at above link
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 01:19 AM
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3. It's their plans
It's all in their plan to play the "oh poor me" victim they like to play. Just like the fundies do so they can get their way and do whatever they want to do. It's their little act so we can never have any say and so they can save their asses. It makes me so fucking mad.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 01:23 AM
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5. They Need To Be Mad To Be Happy
Misery loves company and nothing describes misery better than the Repugnican party. Everyone in that coven hates someone or something...that's what unites them. Be it gays, blacks, "immigrants" (code word for hispanics without saying it), moslems, women and so on. Anger is their endorphin. It's what turns them on.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 01:21 AM
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4. They've been drinking the magical GOP koolaid
guaranteed to remove any qualms you may have about filibuster busting...

Rush gets 'em all revved up, though they are pretty excitable to begin with.
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Freedom_from_Chains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 01:30 AM
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6. They control practically everything, yet we are "obstructing" them
Well, you said it right there. They control practically everything. That is not meeting their goal.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 01:35 AM
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7. They want it ALL!... even if it means killing everyone.
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 01:43 AM
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8. Yup. They are all about the big "ME".
Edited on Wed May-11-05 01:44 AM by Carolab
It's like a quote my fiance told me today, from someone whose first thought--FIRST thought--on 9/11 was about HERSELF. And she wasn't even anywhere near New York, D.C. or PA.

Dems are about the collective "WE".

HUGE difference in that.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 02:06 AM
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11. My VERY first thought on 9/11:
"Reichstag!"

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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 02:46 PM
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20. Plus, I wanted to add, THEY HATE US
Edited on Wed May-11-05 02:46 PM by Carolab
and so, REGARDLESS of the consequences to THEM (which they DO NOT fully understand, I'm convinced), they just can't stand the idea that "THE LEFT" could be RIGHT!
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 02:56 PM
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25. My very first thought when I found out about 9/11 was
"Oh my GOD, those poor people." I got chills all over and started to cry, thinking about all the families that were devastated by it.

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BigBearJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 01:44 AM
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9. Inbreeding.... that's all .... the effects of inbreeding
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 02:19 AM
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12. Nah. I think their mothers had martinis at a critical stage
in the pregnancy.
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KT2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 02:02 AM
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10. Talk Radio
they keep their listeners in a state of anger resentment and angst.

This anger is being played out in daily life - people irritated by others they have identified as libruls, be it driving the car, shopping at the store, answering the door.
Cranky people.
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 06:29 AM
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18. Right-wing talk radio is a big part of the reason.
I have wondered about this too. Republicans seem to always be enraged even though they control EVERYTHING in America. Well, have you ever listened to Rush Limbaugh? His show is a daily orgy of hate and sputtering rage. Just listening for 5 minutes sends my adrenaline level through the roof and makes me want to smash the radio, and Druggie's face with it. And I'm a Liberal!
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NuttyFluffers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 03:25 AM
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13. they're into kinky things, like tabasco on their hemmoroids
too bad it leaves them rather tense and unfriendly afterward.
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moondust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 05:42 AM
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14. The nature of dictators.
Way too much power isn't nearly enough.
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 06:10 AM
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15. Things aren't going according to "plan" anymore. That's my new
Edited on Wed May-11-05 06:12 AM by BlueIris
theory. For the most part, they're getting what they want, but for them to encounter ANY resistance, even if it's not particularly successful, is unacceptable. They must maintain TOTAL control. The fact that they can't is pissing them off. Their leaders lied to them and said that by this point, the liberals and the Democrats would be completely wiped out. They also told them that their base of "regular folks" would remain absolutely appeased. Neither of those things are entirely true (I agree that the Dems could be working harder in some areas and WAY too many "normal people" still worship Bush, but it's not the Republican Paradise they were promised, either). It's sort of like the "obstructions," though relatively small, are exacerbating the Mass Republican Psyche's OCD--what? A tiny irregularity disrupting the MASTER PLAN that MUST go PERFECTLY! THAT CAN'T HAPPEN! IT'S NOT ALLOWED!
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 06:12 AM
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16. ALL or nothing at all
people need to understand, infantile maniacs want it all, not 99%, ALL.
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aaronnyc Donating Member (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 06:19 AM
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17. It is a way for the GOP to avoid responsibility
If people recognize that Republicans are running the show, they will hold them accountable. To avoid being held accountable, Republicans have convinced their base that Democrats/liberals can still be blamed for all the world's problems - because they have "obstructed" Republican efforts. They reason, that since Democrats have "obstructed" the Republican agenda, it is unfair for people to hold them accountable.

The callers (at least the majority), don't want a theocratic dictatorship... they just want somebody to blame for the problems in their life. The moment that they realize that the Republicans are really running the country, is the moment they stop voting for them.
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SGBL Donating Member (141 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 01:03 PM
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19. This works
but I don't think the sheep that follow them see it this way. I think they are simply evil.
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 02:51 PM
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21. Fifteen years of being perpetually whipped up into frothy, indignant
anger via Rush... throw in a dash of politicized pulpits in the past ten years that has equated rush's message with God's Will... toss in the emotional impact of 911 and you have a great succeptability to believing the lies that everything is about supporting the terrorists (e.g., being against the bankruptcy bill - is about supporting terrorist...; being against the Gonzales nomination is about supporting the terrorists... etc.) and that they (terrorists) are going to get us... and how can you be about supporting the terrorists...??? (over and over and over again.)

Oh - then throw in the meme being pushed in conservative extremist chruches that to get to the second coming and rapture there has to be a period of "Christian Persecution" - so all of the above mouthpieces are tying EVERYTHING to the alleged "persecution of Christians" (recall ORielly's they are trying to attack the word "Christmas!" hysterics) - so all the anger gets repeatedly kicked into fury so that folks see red and can't think at all for all that blood pulsing in the head making their head's throb - so that its too loud to think.

Just a theory...
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Piperay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 02:53 PM
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22. They portray themselves
as victims just like the Nazis did...it worked for them.x(
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Jara sang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 02:53 PM
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23. Bullshit detector:
When the CSPAN caller first uses the words "these democrats" extra points for using the word "socialists". Like clockwork, all the Rep. callers do it.
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 02:55 PM
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24. We're not the ones obstructing them.
It's the Constitution that is obstructing them. THAT is what is pissing them off.

But of course they can't just come out and say "WE HATE THAT STUPID CONSTITUTION SHIT (except for the Second Amendment which should include automatic weapons)!!!!"

No, instead they can only lash out at a group that has no control.

It's sad and pathetic, really.

I mean rush said just a few weeks ago that the Senate is ruled by the iron fists of Kerry and Kennedy.

Uh, yeah. Ok, whatever. I want to know what color the sky is on his planet. Seriously.
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lectrobyte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 03:07 PM
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26. They are still getting agitated by Fox, Rush, Sean etc., and I think the
economic miracles promised a lot of them are not materializing -- I know small to medium businesses are taking it hard right now. Plus, they run into people like me who ask them "what were thinking when we voted in oil-boy?" at the gas pumps...
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 03:34 PM
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27. Because their fantasy world notions have not (can never) become reality
Edited on Wed May-11-05 03:35 PM by deutsey
Everything was supposed to be perfect with Bush in the White House and the GOP controling Congress; with tax cuts, a culture of life, and Homeland Security; with Saddam ousted and America a world Empire; but darn if messy reality doesn't just keep spilling in and tainting everything.

Ever seen how pissed off clinically deluded people become when you interrupt their delusions?
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PlanetBev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 04:04 PM
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28. Writer James Wolcott predicted this...
Before the November election he said that if Kerry won, the anger on the Left would subside. He also said that if Bush won, the Right would stay angry.

The truth is, the Right Wing has an insatiable hunger that cannot be quenched. No matter how large a buffet is laid on their table, it will never enough. They want absolute power, and cannot come to terms with any kind of opposition. They are proverbial toddlers, badly in need of a "time out". They are also deeply deluded, because they cannot accept the primary law of physics: for ever action, there is an equal and opposite reaction. As long as they exist, we will rise up to fight them.

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AgadorSparticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 04:10 PM
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29. They are too stupid to see the leash around their necks. They are
angry at their lives and the hallowness in their MEness and want a scapegoat for their misery. voila, democrats thanks to the RWnut bobbleheads. It's sad, really, that they haven't figured out the source of their misery.
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Telly Savalas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 06:06 PM
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30. It's because every good Republican knows...
that when they're waiting in line at an ATM to make a quick $50 withdrawal and the person at the machine is doing five gazillion transactions holding things up forever, the person at the machine is obviously an Obstructionist Democrat.

When they patiently wait for an old lady to pull out of a primo parking spot such that they may park there and some prick cuts in front to take the spot, that prick is an Obstructionist Democrat.

When they sit down for dinner and have their meal interrupted by a telemarketer, that telemarketer is an Obstructionist Democrat.

When they go to a vending machine to select their favorite beverage, and the machine eats their change, it was obviously sabotaged by Obstructionist Democrats.

Their lives are being destroyed by scheming Obstructionist Democrats. They have a right to be mad.
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