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KlatooBNikto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-05 06:35 AM Original message |
GM's situation is far worse than what is being reported. |
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dbt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-05 06:40 AM Response to Original message |
1. How is that, Klatoo? |
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KlatooBNikto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-05 06:50 AM Response to Reply #1 |
4. GM is in the unenviable position that it is unable to sell any of its |
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northzax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-05 09:10 AM Response to Reply #4 |
19. actually, the only profitable arm of GM |
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dbt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-05 09:12 AM Response to Reply #19 |
21. Thank you both! |
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northzax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-05 09:23 AM Response to Reply #21 |
27. well, if you're scared about it |
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dbt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-05 09:58 AM Response to Reply #27 |
32. Too late to be scared, innit? |
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northzax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-05 10:05 AM Response to Reply #32 |
33. depends, how much do you think |
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Pithy Cherub (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-05 09:38 AM Response to Reply #19 |
29. Also check pensions. |
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gpandas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-05 09:53 AM Response to Reply #19 |
31. thanks for the truth... |
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benevolent dictator (765 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-05 10:09 AM Response to Reply #31 |
34. GM also employes fewer people now because of robots. |
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gpandas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-05 10:19 AM Response to Reply #34 |
37. that was o.k when it was not their business... |
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benevolent dictator (765 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-05 10:31 AM Response to Reply #37 |
43. It's because people don't pay attention |
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gpandas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-05 11:05 AM Response to Reply #43 |
49. it's because they are greedy and stupid... |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-05 06:45 AM Response to Original message |
2. Toyota has offered to bail them out |
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WLKjr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-05 09:15 AM Response to Reply #2 |
24. well if Toyota is doing this, Honda will follow soon |
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benevolent dictator (765 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-05 10:11 AM Response to Reply #2 |
35. I read that the rest of the company was quick to denounce that statement. |
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0007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-05 06:47 AM Response to Original message |
3. Zoom Zoom Zoom |
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dutchdemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-05 06:50 AM Response to Original message |
5. From Harper's Index |
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quaoar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-05 06:51 AM Response to Original message |
6. They need to start practicing Bush Economics |
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Mr.Green93 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-05 07:05 AM Response to Original message |
7. Look for them to do ch. 11 bankruptcy |
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raccoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-05 07:35 AM Response to Reply #7 |
9. Yes, as usual, due to poor decisions by management, |
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IrateCitizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-05 09:06 AM Response to Reply #9 |
17. Oh, I don't think the UAW is without blame here, either... |
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Unborn (9 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-05 10:27 AM Response to Reply #7 |
42. it worked for K-Mart |
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Taxloss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-05 07:26 AM Response to Original message |
8. What about the "Homer"? |
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IrateCitizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-05 09:13 AM Response to Reply #8 |
22. "I want a horn here, here, here, and here...." |
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Frederik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-05 09:47 AM Response to Reply #8 |
30. Bingo! |
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LynneSin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-05 07:41 AM Response to Original message |
10. They need to stop relying on those behometh SUVs for profits... |
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benevolent dictator (765 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-05 10:15 AM Response to Reply #10 |
36. No one will buy their smaller cars |
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newportdadde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-05 07:45 AM Response to Original message |
11. How long before we here GM's problems are Clintons fault? |
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Unborn (9 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-05 10:35 AM Response to Reply #11 |
45. Clinton passed NAFTA |
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EOTE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-05 01:19 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. Camp pain? |
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TNOE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-05 01:30 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. Yeah - and didn't every single living President stand with him |
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cleangreencar (37 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-05 07:52 AM Response to Original message |
12. There's a bit of lawsuit liability |
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cap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-05 07:53 AM Response to Original message |
13. gm makes most of its profit from finance not cars |
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Wilber_Stool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-05 08:00 AM Response to Original message |
14. I remember back when Chrysler was failing. |
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NoSunWithoutShadow (363 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-05 08:03 AM Response to Original message |
15. GM spends $1500 per vehicle for health care for current & retired |
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newportdadde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-05 08:37 AM Response to Reply #15 |
16. I wonder how much per vehicle goes into the hands of the top 5% |
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northzax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-05 09:20 AM Response to Reply #16 |
26. GM pays the highest blue color salaries in the country |
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benevolent dictator (765 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-05 10:23 AM Response to Reply #26 |
40. Yep, they employ too many people too well and |
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benevolent dictator (765 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-05 10:21 AM Response to Reply #16 |
38. According to the AFL-CIO's CEO watch |
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tedzbear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-05 09:10 AM Response to Reply #15 |
18. Don't Japan and Germany have universal healthcare? |
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IrateCitizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-05 09:11 AM Response to Reply #18 |
20. Actually, GM management has expressed support for universal |
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KharmaTrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-05 09:26 AM Response to Reply #15 |
28. And $3,000 Into Advertising |
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benevolent dictator (765 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-05 10:26 AM Response to Reply #28 |
41. Well, they also probably won't let them go bankrupt |
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WLKjr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-05 09:13 AM Response to Original message |
23. A lot of the little GM companies (ones that supply them) |
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Willy Lee (925 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-05 09:20 AM Response to Original message |
25. Yet they are taking their electric cars to the desert and crushing them |
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blue northern (190 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-05 10:21 AM Response to Original message |
39. With the exception of the new 'vette |
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amazona (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-05 10:33 AM Response to Original message |
44. what about ford? |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-05 01:38 PM Response to Original message |
48. Alot of GM retirees will be losing their pensions. |
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