Dean to kerry: You're Bush Lite.

[morstyranni]

In Today's Boston Herald: It was the headline.

Youch, that hurts.

Around here, it seems that they are the only two in the race: coverage wise that is.

http://www2.bostonherald.com/news/national/dean09182003.htm

[CentristDemocrat]

1. "CentristDemocrat to Dean: You're unelectable"

A governor from the smallest, most irrelevent state in the union.

[rabid_nerd]

4. DLC member to Clark: Go away poser

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[CentristDemocrat]

7. DLC? You mean that organization that AL GORE founded?

[rabid_nerd]

13. Yup

That's what I'm sayin' - Go away Clark!

BTW - Clark is the biggest joke of a candidate I've seen out of these ten, and I thought Sharpton would have won that title but I guess we needed another inexperienced loon to play "I wanna be King"

[CentristDemocrat]

15. Just showed your intelligence with this line:

BTW - Clark is the biggest joke of a candidate I've seen out of these ten, and I thought Sharpton would have won that title but I guess we needed another inexperienced loon to play "I wanna be King"

buh bye

[rabid_nerd]

19. Sorry if I don't want someone who appears to deserve

the labels that McCain didn't...

[fla nocount]

44. Centrist Democrat, hmm, is that anything like Compassionate

Conservative? Not a flame, just trying to define the concept. I already know what Democrat means.

[morstyranni]

17. What are your specific issues with clark?

I'm not trying to antagonistic, I'm just curious.

[rabid_nerd]

39. No Experience

Schooled in Economics - I know.

But any Position I've seen from him has been airy and thin. On top of that, the desire to open the borders more for "Free Trade".

On jobs, a lot of empty rhetoric. Of course few candidates have really fleshed out their plans yet.

Plus what did it in for me was seeing the words "New Democrat Network" on the podium.

If he'd stayed away from any "wing" of the party I'd consider him legitimate.

I don't want someone divisive. Dean, Lieberman and Clark are party-divisive. Gephardt, Kerry and Kucinich are almost there, and that leaves Graham, Edwards, Sharpton and Braun who are all sleeping out there.

On issues, if I was FORCED to pick, I had considered Kerry or Dean, but recently I'd move to Gephardt and my at-gunpoint choice.

As a member of the DLC who has renounced the same, I can't stand the thought of why anyone would in their right mind self-identify with a group that is nearly universally identified by the equation DLC=Lieberman.

Gore founded it, and he's why I was a member. In fact, he still is, and pays his dues, but the DLC has been putting out emails bashing non-DLC Democrats and at the DLC convention, Lieberman bashed Gore as too populist in 2000, and I've wanted to wring his neck since.

I knew something was WRONG when Clark identified himself as DLC, and sure enough, he's no anti-war, Democrat General. He's a Centrist General who is no Eisenhower in his escapades and simply is unimpressive on closer inspection.

I was neutral to the candidacy until he declared, so I decided to look and I don't like what I see.

Then again, in a month we'll be going nowhere fast with 6 candidates in the 10% range heading into the primaries.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

23. See Post 16

You shame your avatar.....

[DemocratSinceBirth]

16. I Like Al Gore

I met Al Gore.

I worked for Al Gore's 00 campaign driving po folks to the polls...

I shook Al Gore's hand and Tipper bent down to kiss my mom who is in a wheelchair...

Al Gore wouldn't like your gratuitous shots at Wes Clark...

[morstyranni]

21. Good Point.

[rabid_nerd]

42. Blah blah.

I met Al Gore

I worked for Al Gore's 02 PAC pushing Dem candidates at polls

I shook Al Gore's hand and Tipper said she liked the Christmas Card I gave them

Al Gore knows I have my own opinions.

SO WHAT?

[morstyranni]

5. They make good ice-cream

Take it from this Mass-hole.

[newsguyatl]

10. newsguyatl to centrist democrat:

just watch and see how 'unelectable' dean is! :D

[StopTheMorans]

27. oh just wait until you see centristdemocrat's brilliant

retort to any meaningful argument that gets brought up. It goes a little something like this: "Kucinich, Dean, or Green?" and Centristdemocrat uses it for about 75% of his/her posts (the rest are one-liners).
on edit: going home for the evening, so you can try and make points now that I'm gone and you won't even have to make arguments:)

[KaraokeKarlton]

20. You mean a state where two previoius presidents came from?

Dean is just as "irrelevent" as those two past presidents...so much so that they were elected. :D

[Evil_Dewers]

24. smallest, most irrelevent state in the union.

That "honor" goes to Rhode Island.

Joe McCarthy LIEberman is Bush Lite.

The new JFK is Busch Lite with low carbs.

[caledesi]

34. Uh, there was one from Arkansas and he became a 2-term president.

The Big Dog

[Room101]

49. That's what they said about clinton

:)

[sangh0]

2. flame-bait

a pretty stupid flamebait at that

[morstyranni]

3. Forgot the link

http://www2.bostonherald.com/news/national/dean09182003.htm

[sangh0]

8. Dean is getting scared

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[DemocratSinceBirth]

6. Let's See The Quote -If It's True

it's an axiom of politics that when two candidates get in a pissing match the third candidate who isn't involved benefits....


This is delicious.....

Kerry and Dean locked horn to horn in a political death match....

Who would have thunk it?

[morstyranni]

12. At the next debate...

Kerry's going to smash his guitar over Dean's back.

[BeatleBoot]

9. He got him real good-like

Those one line snippets will guarantee his nomination!

[AP]

11. Dean is dying to get people to talk about him.

Is it because it's harder now that Clark's in the race?

Is Dean going to start really misbehaving?

[morstyranni]

14. K-street

He'll need some more one liners from the ragin' cajun.

[CMT]

Dean was responding to weeks of sniping by Kerry

and Kerry did support the war, the Bush tax cuts, and No child left behind.--three of the biggest votes of the Bush presidency.

[TLM]

29. Huh? Did you read that piece? Kerry is the one on the attack...

going after Dean and Gephardt... looks to me like Kerry is the one worried about Clark.

Dean just slaped Kerry's defending of Bush's tax cuts down in the gutter where it belongs.

Kerry is showing his true colors... pro-war in iraq, pro-bush tax cuts, pro-no child left behind, pro-patriot act... in other words Kerry is.....

[blm]

45. Kerry critiques POLICY, Dean uses NAMECALLING.

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[TLM]

18. Good... can't beleive Kerry is trying to defend the Bush tax cuts.

Why would Kerry be pushing the lie that the Bush tax cuts were some massive boom for the middle class?

Why is Kerry fighting for BUSH'S tax cuts by attacking other dems?

[Demobrat]

25. I don't get it either.

It's almost as if he doesn't realize who got the cuts and who didn't. The voters do, though.

[TLM]

33. I think Kerry has too many special interests

to take care of in DC.

[morstyranni]

38. That's what happens...

When you're a senator for about 100 years. He and Teddy K are poster boys for term limits. I only say this beacause I am from MA, where the politics are constipated with lifers.

[Fabio]

46. Interestingly

John Kerry is the only member of the US Senate to not use PAC or soft money in any of his campaigns -- making his "special interest" ties hard to imagine.

Furthermore, what special interest advocates tax reduction for the middle class?

[morstyranni]

26. There's a lot of Middle class dems in Massachusetts.

Who are all for lower taxes, we almost repealed the state income tax last year.
I think he wants to stay a senator if he loses the pres bid.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

30. I Think A Case Can Be Made For

elimnating the tax cuts for the highest wage earners and working your way down...

I need to see the "big picture" first before I commit to eliminating all or any of them but the top....

[TLM]

35. THe big picture is that Dean wants to undo Bush's mess

and Kerry wants to keep it.


Dean want to get rid of Bush tax cuts, and put into effect tax cuts for the middle class and for small businesses.

[blm]

47. Kerry wants to tax the rich and close corporate loopholes

so the working class can keep their taxcuts. Progressive taxation is a longstanding Democratic principle.

[Evil_Dewers]

32. Kerry = middle class

His wife is the one who got $600 million from Republican Senator John Heinz.

Hey, whatever happened to Kerry's first wife?

[quinnox]

22. Dean needs to come up with some new material

He is in danger of becoming yesterdays news.

[sangh0]

28. Yep

"anti-war" and "Bush*-lite" is just SO-o-o 2002.

[TLM]

37. Sorry but the truth is timeless....

Kerry is Bushlight and as long as he is out there trying to attack dems for wanting to get rid of Bush tax cuts, Kerry will deserve that label.

[IndianaGreen]

31. Poor Kerry, his campaign is in the toilet and there is nothing he can do

As if his prowar vote wasn't enough to give him a well-deserved case of political leprosy, Kerry now has to compete against Wesley Clark, a war hero and former general whose resume is far more stellar than his.

Kerry is always copy catting what other candidates are doing. He was not even the second Democrat to show up in California to campaign against the recall. Kerry did not put his health care plan forward until long after Kucinich, Dean, and Gephardt had put theirs out. And at this very late date, Kerry is still unable to convince anyone that his war for the Iraq war was really a vote against it.

Poor Kerry, his campaign is in the toilet and there is nothing he can do... except drop out!

[Forkboy]

36. The article is dead on

almost a total rarity for Boston's completely right-wing "news"paper.

[tjdee]

40. When GEPHARDT said Dean agreed with Gingrich, that was bad.

When Dean says Kerry is using Bush's tax numbers, that's good.

More wisdom from DU!

[Khephra]

41. Dean calls 'em like he sees them

And I happen to agree in this case. I used to love Kerry, but now all I see is a political waffler who lost his way.

[wtmusic]

43. BULLSHIT

Nowhere in the article does Dean say, "You're Bush Lite". Bogus headline.

[MercutioATC]

48. I see no quote where Dean calls Kerry "Bush-lite" in this article.

He disagreed with Kerry on policy. That's what opposing candidates do.