Yet another handcuffed kid, this one in Cincinnati

[ohio_liberal]

To followup first on the 7 year old in WV, his parents have pulled him out of school and intend to homeschool indefinitely. The Ohio Valley Black Caucus has met with school officials to attempt to change their policies.

Now for the kid in Cincinnati:

Cops Accused Of Handcuffing Ohio Child Suspended

CINCINNATI -- Two Cincinnati police officers have been suspended with pay during an investigation into the alleged handcuffing of a 5-year-old boy after a fight on a school bus, television station WLWT reported.

Police said Tuesday that officers Douglas Snider and Kaneshia Howell were assigned to desk duty. Their guns were also taken from them.

A lawsuit filed last Friday against the bus company, police department and driver claims that on Jan. 13, Snider and Howell put the child, Izell Finch, in handcuffs "for an unreasonable amount of time."

Finch's mother is asking for more than $50,000 in the lawsuit that also claims the bus driver improperly detained the boy. The driver is accused of grabbing the boy around the neck after he was struck by another child on the bus in January. The boy was a kindergarten student at the International College Preparatory Academy.

http://www.wtov9.com/news/4459622/detail.html

There's something very wrong happening in this country when we're handcuffing 5 and 7 year olds. :(

[AspenRose]

1. Dammit, that does it

I'm homeschooling my son. He's only 3 months old now but if things like this continue....

Edit: Someone suggested on DU a while back that things like this are an organized attempt to 'dehumanize' people of color; in law enforcement, in the media, etc. It's hard to argue against that point of view, with stuff like this happening.

[Spinzonner]

2. I agree

We really should be straight-jacketing them.

Do they make them in kid's sizes ?

[CBGLuthier]

3. The pictures say it all.

Smiling black child and arrogant looking white asshole. That town is a cesspool of police profiling and racist assholes.

Makes me ashamed I was born just north of there.

[ihaveaquestion]

5. Uh - both pictures are of the officers.

A black woman and a white man.

[okieinpain]

6. the smiling black child is the other police officer. you're so nice, i

[CBGLuthier]

10. My mistake

I apologise for leaping to conclusions about this case. I really do need glasses.

But with Cincinatti's reputation for minority treatment by the police I made an invalid assumption.

But I still stand by my statements about the city itself.

[okieinpain]

4. you're absolutely right, what the hell is happening when 5 year olds

go around hitting adults in the back of the head. If I would have pulled that shit when I was 5, I would have got my ass kicked, fuck some handcuffs.

[AutumnMist]

7. I Live In Ohio

and I can tell you that the public school systems (at least in our area) are terrible! Its like throwing your kids to the wolves. So much stupid violence and hurt. I won't do that to our daughter. Flame or not.....I don't want her to deal with the crap that is going on here in central Ohio. No way. I will home school as well. And I am not a child abuser, I have never been arrested, or even got a speeding ticket since high school. This kind of crap makes my stomach turn. I would like my daughter to grow up with fair treatment and a proactive life. Not being beat down with this kind of abuse. 5 years old? Give me a break!

[Caution]

8. Why does anyone think this is new?

Whenever *anyone* is acting violently they are handcuffed if the police are brought in. This is done just as much to protect the person being handcuffed as his or her potential victims. Seriously people. An out of control 5 year old can do massive harm to him or herself. Maybe this one example is outrageous behavior on the part of the cops (I have no idea, I wasnt there) but there are reasons that this kind of thing occurs and not all of them are due to the jackbooted assholes that many cops are.

[bpilgrim]

9. chaining children IS barbaric

but many americans don't even realize that now... welcome to the third world

peace

[Tomee450]

12. Oh please

This is something new. Five year olds have never been handcuffed for acting up until recently. It's wrong and I would be just as angry had it been done to a white child, but of course that rarely happens. It's the climate in this country today. A friend of mine commented that it appears that this country is becoming similar to that period immediately following reconstruction when the hard won rights of blacks were completely overturned. Now we have to worry that if our children misbehave, the cops will be called and the children will be treated like an adult criminal.

[Caution]

14. do you seriously think this is recent?

Then you probably dont have a very good memory. I'm 32 years old and I personally witnessed kids being handcuffed in MA when i was in grade school. I remember three separate incidents. Give me an alternate way to prevent a child from harming him or herself when that child throws a true tantrum. Ever tried to restrain a child that was intent on kicking, screaming, biting, clawing? And all without harming the child?

[okieinpain]

16. it's called lawsuits.... I don't blame them. you can not talk to other

peoples kids any more, they will just look in the face and tell you to fuck off and continue with what they were doing.

[Tomee450]

11. I am so sick of these

kind of incidents. No five year old child should ever be handcuffed. But of course, so far, it's mostly black children who are receiving such harsh treatment.

[Caution]

15. So far these are the ones we are seeing.

This isn't anything new, it's just that all of a sudden the news media has decided to run with them. The first one got a lot of attention when the story ran so now every time it happens it gets printed.

Suggest an alternate manner of restraining a child that is out of control, screaming, kicking, punching, biting and clawing without coming to harm yourself and without harming the child and without being that child's parent who has already established him/herself as a disciplinarian to be adhered to.

[sam sarrha]

13. as an X-juvenile parole officer, these children need to identified and

Remember that nearly ALL school mass shootings are by students who were bullied, assaulted and tormented by other students from which the shooter was not protected from by the school or authorities.

their actions documented when violence is involved. I don't think they need to be handcuffed unless they refuse to cooperate.. They need to learn that you cant get away from your responsibilities because you throw another tantrum..

There is a condition called Anti-Social Disorder Syndrome. The victims of this condition need to documented in order for them to be identified. and they need to be identified AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. we had some in our office, the first long string of violent acts were about 5 or 6, first sexual assault was 8 years old, first violent sexual assault with a Knife and verbal threat to kill if they didn't cooperate was 11, first rape was 13. They were TOTAL cons and manipulators. these people actually prefer to be in prison later in life, it is just easier for them.

I don't think Boys Will Be Boys.. when their actions are Crimes that makes them criminals. A life of crime can be averted by realizing that actions speak louder that words, and their anti social behavior WILL NOT BE TOLERATED. The earlier they learn this in life the better. it is easier to deal with and treat when they are younger. the parents need to attend MANDITORY parenting classes.. HEY, i have been there, picked them up and put their sorry unfortunate asses in jail. all because their parints did not know how to deal wilth them in an appropriate and effective manner. It is definately a case by case consideration, of course.. but soooo many are just the same old shit.. ignorant parents, ignorant kids.. suffering victoms. relvolving door resitivism.. and almost all could be avoided.

Now we got a kid that assaulted another and he is getting the message that no one can stop him... we don't know the history of this kid. or how bad the assault was.

what do you do to a kid that wont cooperate after assaulting another. if you detain them you go to jail.. we need some well defined Rules about how to do this.. and Quit falling into the Carl Roverian Trap this turning into..

I was assaulted on a regular basis al thru my public education, i felt my life constantly in danger, my last year of High School my tormenters actually did Kill another student.