It is time to declare war against the RW

[ck4829]

A shadowy sect of Wealthy Religious Fanatics are slowly taking over the government, they must be stopped now before it is too late.

Imagine a government full of people like Tom DeLay, do you want that? I had often been lambasted for saying there are worse things than Bush, there are, and it is this powerful and secret Syndicate that is perceived to us to be the 'christian' Right that is the worst of all.

They have:

Helped the Death Squads in Latin America.

Made our country weak when they went after Clinton as though they were obsessed with destroying him and America.

Supported other policies which continue to make America weak.

Supported Bush and his current crusades.

Supported many Dictators around the world. Some of these Dictators are up there with Saddam Hussein on the terms of atrociousness and yet they walk around as free as a bird.

It goes deeper than that too, much deeper. Let me show you how frightening this thing truly is.

Think "Oliver North", what comes to mind? Is he a Traitor, Drug runner, Terrorist funder, etc? It is acceptable to say "Yes" to any and all of these. Now think about Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell, etc. and the fact that they are connected to him. North is a frequent guest on the 700 Club, both Robertson and Falwell have called North "a Friend", and I believe Falwell promoted North in his failed Senatorial campaign. The question is how deep is the connection and how evil is it.

They are more powerful than the Neo-Cons, soon they will eradicate them. They already have influence over them. Paul Weyrich has even said that the Neo-Cons are a problem and that they must be dealt with ASAP.

There are 3 ways to fight this Syndicate. We often go overboard with trying to oppose the RW, when there are actually only 3 ways to fight the RW.

Truth-Telling - Tell the world the stuff that they don't want the world to hear. "Hey, have you ever heard of Christian Reconstructionism?", "Do you know about Sibel Edmonds?", etc.

Attacking the Wallet - Organizing Boycotts, doing stuff which requires RW groups to spend large amounts of money, and questioning the Tax Exemption status of RW groups are all good examples of this tactic.

Counter-Recruiting - This damages the RW's chances of having more power. If the 'christian' Right were to take over America, they would have access to the Armed Forces of America, a very bad thing. This can not happen. This can also be used with Truth-Telling to get people out of RW Groups.

The Time to strike: NOW!

Chances left: 0!

It is time to declare war on them before they declare war on America and everything else in existence!

[whistle]

1. Shooting war?

[ck4829]

2. Last resort. Let them make the first move if it comes to that.

[mopaul]

3. constitutionally, it's our right and duty to remove a corrupt government

at least that's what they taught me in grade school.

[lonestarnot]

4. AGREE! Am so inflamed, enraged, outraged, sickened that this could

happen to us! They just simply cannot be allowed to get away with this ANY longer! The MUST be stopped!

[Freedom_from_Chains]

5. The fact is; Islamic extremism is one of our smaller problems.

While sure, they have the potential to blow up some buildings and kill some people, the fact is they are an underfunded, loosely compromised organization. There was a big deal made after the 911 attacks that OBL had somewhere between 300 - 400 million dollars he could bring to bear. Which may sound like a lot but to use against the worlds largest military force, it is about the equivalent of pocket change. We spend that much money in 1 or 2 days in Iraq.

No, the Al-Quede bunch planned the 911 attacks for many years, but the fact is they shot there wad on that day. If they had of had anymore it would have been forthcoming. For these guys it's a game of catch as catch can

The Christian extremist we have in our own country, now that's a different story. This is a group who has been planning there rise to power for the last 30 - 40 years. And while it is true they currently are not blowing up buildings and killing some people, the weapon they are using is much more lethal. Their weapon is the law, or more specifically, the subverting of it through the political process, and the damage they will do to the liberties, freedoms, and rights of people, will affect all Americans, not just some.

The Christians, which I saw on the net yesterday that some people are starting to call them the Christian Nationalists, which I like better as I think it is more accurate, is a very highly organized group. They are very well funded through a large defused network, which in many instances gives the benefit of avoiding taxes and makes the money hard to track, have a marketing unit, a mass communications unit, and have deeply embedded themselves within the political structure of the country. They currently have an army of lobbyists and attorneys in D.C. who are in fact the ones who are writing the law; they just have to get it rubber stamped in the Congress.

Here is a partial list of some of their network.

social justice

Sojourners evangelical social justice magazine, proving an alternative evangelical vision to the religious right
The Other Side magazine social justice magazine, evangelical, praxis orientated
National Catholic Reporter social justice, working for an open and inclusive Catholic Church
Christian Aid UK organization fighting for social justice around the globe, very good resources for third world development
Catholic Workerliving out the Gospel through intentional community and voluntary poverty and becomeing servants for all
Reform Judaism's Social Action Center liberal Judaism's political action center, very comprehensive new web site!
Call to Renewal a different faith based alternative to the religious right
Salt of the Earth Claretian order (RCC) social justice journal
Center of Concern a Jesuit social justice center
Jubilee Network calling for an end to third world debt, economic justice here and around the globe
http://www.uujec.net /> Unitarian Universalists for a Just Economic Community
United Church of Christ Justice and Peace Page
Democratic Socialists of America Religious Commission with members including Rosemary Radford Reuther, etc.
Mennonite Committee on social justice comphrehensive guide to issues both Canadian and American
American Friends Service Committee
Jewish Social Justice Network
Methodist Federation for Social Action
Faith in Action, Unitarian Universalist
Unitarian Universalist Social Committee international relief
Religious Organizing Against the Death Penalty
Bread for the World
Michael Lerner's Tikkun magazine
10 Days for Global Justice a Canadian interchurch global justice group
Student Christian Movement of Canada strong social justice emphasis
Jewish Social Action website
http://www.ifconews.org /"> Interreligious Foundation for
Community Organization/Pastors for Peace works on cuban embargo, other justice issues
Nat'l Interfaith Committee for Worker Justice
Nat'l Farmworkers Ministry
Jewish Fund for Justice
Interfaith Coalition on Immigrant Rights
Protestants for the Common Good
Interfaith Center on Corporate Responsibility
Religion-Labor Coalition
Catholic Labor Network
Network: A National Catholic Social Justice Lobby
Progressive Jewish Alliance
Jews United for Justice
Jews for Racial and Economic Justice
Faith Communities working for Health Care Justice
Anglo-Catholic Socialism
Faith and Socialism Commission of the Socialist Party
Int'l League of Religious Socialists
Christian Socialist Movement

environmentalism

Evangelical Environmental Network
Resources on Ecology and Faith
National Council of Churches Eco-Justice Working Group
Lutheran Earthkeeping Network of the Synods
Christian Environmental Association
North American Coalition for Christianity and Ecology
Coalition on the Environment and Jewish Life
Friends Committee on Unity with NatureCenter for Respect of Life and the Environment
Earth Ministry Resources
Peacemaking


Fellowship of Reconciliation Christian umbrella pacifist organization
Witness for Peace Christian peacemaking group, esp. long history with Latin America
Pax Christi USA international catholic pacifist group
Christian Peacemaker Teams mennonite/quaker peace group, especially involved in the middle east
Unitarian Universalist UN Office
Project Plowshares peace group in Canada
National Interreligious Service Board for Conscientious Objectors
Orthodox Peace Fellowship
Gandhi Institute on Non-violence
Jewish Peace Fellowship
Baptist Peace Fellowship
Ecumenical Peace Institute
Conflict Resolution Site
Interfaith Voices for Peace and Justice
Interfaith Alliance organizing for human rights and providing an alternative to the religious right
Interfaith Working Group great christian gay and lesbian resources, and fighting for human rights for all
Religious Tolerance comprehensive site on various religions, and burning issues
Call to Action working for reform in Catholic church, esp on women ordination, GLBT issues, etc.
Religious Coalition for Reproductive Choice representing dozens of pro-choice denominations and religious organizations
Baptist Joint Committee on Public Affairs strong defenders of separation of church and state
Pluralism Project at Harvard
Women Alliance for Theology, Ethics, and Ritual
UUA Office of Bisexual, Gay, Lesbian and Transgender Concerns
Simon Wiesenthal Center
Lillith Magazine: a jewish feminist journal
Resources for Ministries Affirming the Diversity of Human Sexuality
Religious Consulation Group on Reproductive Health Care
Catholic Network for Women's Equality
Center for Sexuality and Religion
Catholics for Choice
Equal Partners in Faith challenging the religious right
Al-Fatiha GLBT Muslims
International Association for Religious Freedom

Thanks to erichzann on DU


These are the people we need to be concerned about as these are the people who are going to end up controlling our lives.

[whistle]

6. Do any of these groups have ties with the Dominionists

[Freedom_from_Chains]

7. Oh, I'm sure many of them do

Although they tend to keep that in the background, but recently some of their writers and speakers have been letting it slip.