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vi5 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 06:05 AM
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David Hackworth is dead?
Edited on Fri May-06-05 06:06 AM by vi5
http://www.woodtv.com/Global/story.asp?S=3307313

http://www.hackworth.com/

That's too bad. During the Clinton era he was a big one pushing the line about how Clinton "gutted" the military. But in fairness he has continually been criticizing Bush, Rumsfeld and his cronies over the war and their shoddy treatment of the military. So I guess respect where it is deserved. The guy seemed to genuinely and sincerely care about the guys and girls in the military military and vet issues and was bipartisan for the most part (much as anyone is nowadays I guess). Too bad.

I wonder why he was being treated for a medical condition in Tijuana though.
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Maestro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 06:07 AM
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1. He was in Mexico probably to receive
experimental cancer treatment. He died of the disease.
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 06:12 AM
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2. Great obit
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 06:18 AM
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3. He was 74 years old.
When I heard Malloy say that last night, I was so surprised. He seemed so young. Never, in a million years did I think he was 74.

Agent Blue. What's the difference between Agent Orange and Agent Blue? Hackworth had bladder cancer which is very common in people exposed to agent blue in Vietnam. Does anyone know the difference? Was it another chemical sprayed to kill vegetation?
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 06:26 AM
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4. Yes. It was a chemical used to kill rice because it rendered it
unable to receive the moisture from the patties. It dried out.

In effect, the American government was using it to starve the population.

Agent Orange was used to kill the vegetation in hopes of giving troops a clearer line of fire.
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blogbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 06:47 AM
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5. That's Uncle Sam..a real tromping trooper but no mercenary..
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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 08:04 AM
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6. Dioxin in your meat & Agent Orange
Nat'l Academies Dioxin Panel:
Gov't Should Encourage People to Eat Less Meat

Last update: July 2, 2003

The U.S. government needs to help its citizens reduce their exposure to dioxins, in part by encouraging people to eat less meat, cheese and other sources of animal fat, according to a report by a branch of the National Academies.

Dioxins tend to accumulate in the fat of farm animals that eat contaminated feed and grass. Levels of dioxins in the environment are believed to be declining, but dioxins remain a concern because even extremely small doses can cause serious health problems.

"The most direct way to reduce dietary exposure to dioxins is to reduce consumption of animal fat," said Michael Taylor, a member of the panel.
http://www.ems.org/dioxin/nat_academies_meat.html


Dioxin from Agent Orange
Still at 1971 Levels

Last update: August 5, 2003

A new study appearing in the August issue of the Journal of Occupational and Environmental Medicine concludes that decades after Agent Orange was used during the Vietnam War, dioxin continues to poison or contaminate Vietnamese people through dioxin-contaminated food.

Specifically, very high levels of dioxin and TCDD -- the highly toxic dioxin contaminant of Agent Orange -- have been found in people and food in Bien Hoa City, near Ho Chi Minh City, an area heavily contaminated by Agent Orange. These levels are in the same range as those found in people and food during Agent Orange spraying that ended in 1971.

TCDD and other dioxins have been linked to cancer and a wide range of other health problems.
http://www.ems.org/dioxin/agent_orange_1971_levels.html


Dioxin is the most powerful carcinogen known. How many times have you heard people comment about the ever growing incedence of cancer? Given the prevalence of toxins Americans consume and are exposed to and the slack ass attitude of our government it's a wonder every last one of us isn't racked with cancer.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 08:10 AM
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7. Oh, no! I had no idea!
Geez :cry:
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riverwalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 09:33 AM
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8. what a loss
I didn't know he was ill. Hack was one of the good guys. He was always willing to speak the truth to the powerful, and a noble warrior in every way.
I remember when the war started and FOX had their war-a-palooza coverage, they had Hack as a military advisor, assuming he would blindly cheerlead the war. He started criticising the DOD, the planning, Rummy, the policies, and they dumped him faster than lightning. But before they did, he got his message out.
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 10:12 AM
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9. Damn!
Hack was one guy we couldn't really afford to lose. Now we've lost him anyway.

His tirades against Clinton were not too different from some of the ones he has made against Bush. His creed was "Sweat in Training -- or Die in Battle", and the modern military's domination by officers who lead by PowerPoint rather than shoe leather has led to some stunning deficiencies. If anything, this trend has gotten worse since Clinton.

And Clinton himself was well aware of Hackworth, and appeared to have taken the full benefit of one or two of Hack's editorial ass-chewings. The same can not be said for our current War President, who measures the advice of no one.

Sometimes, the problem lies with boot-camp graduates who can't fire a weapon to save their lives, and sometimes it's "Porcelain Princes" heavy with ornamental brass who neglect to disburse already-appropriated funds to outfit Humvees with proper armor. Either way, people have died because of such stupid things. And up until the end, Hack wrote about it every week.

Someday, David Hackworth will be part of the military patriot pantheon along with people like Smedley "Old Gimlet Eye" Butler, who damned the torpedoes and proclaimed that "War is a Racket". The deskside warriors like George Bush and Donald Rumsfeld continue to make the same mistakes their idiot progenitors have made throughout the sad and bloody history of the world. If they had half the sense God gave a pile of horse turds, they'd read the words of these two men before sending so much as a 3-legged dog into combat.

--p!
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 10:19 AM
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10. Sign Hack's Guest Book
Number of memorials as of today:

Hackworth :: 2456 Entries - 99 Pages

http://www.hackworth.com/cgi-bin/csGuest/csGuest.cgi?command=view&gid=1
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