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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 04:26 AM
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How desperate must the Iraqi people be??
Edited on Thu Sep-18-03 04:28 AM by SoCalDem
CNN is covering a new pipeline fire.. Surely they know that they need the oil sold to Turkey , in order to rebuild their country, but they hate us so much that they would rather burn their only resource, so WE don;t get it.

This hatred is something that was never factored into the war plan.. The water facilities are also being sabotaged.. If there was not common support for these actions, they would NOT occcur..

The CNN guy says that the oil firefighters are WORN OUT and TIRED from fighting ALL THE OIL FIRES.. Strange how we don't seem to be hearing about all of these fires....hmmmmmmm...

Occasionally a mention of an oil fire, but usually mentioned in passing..

The fire was raging behind the reporter and those flames were massive..




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lcordero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 04:35 AM
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1. The problem is that this hatred WAS foreseeable from the very
beginning. Our government is entirely too biased for the Israelis and against the Muslims in that region. Their governments have been underminded by Anglos since the 1920's at the very least...and before that, since the crusades.

If what the news has been saying in whathappened.com is right then our forces have been dropping clusterbombs and bunkerbusters in residential areas.
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 05:39 AM
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2. Be realistic
This was not a act by "the Iraqi people". It was done by some group, who must have the support of a section of Iraqi people, but that needn't be anywhere near the majority. Whoever it is (and it could be more than one group doing the sabotage), they hope for more power if they get a quick withdrawal by the USA (and/or UN).

A quote from "The Day of the Triffids", by John Wyndham, 1951, describing a cold-war stalemate:
"The human spirit continued much as before - ninety-five percent of it wanting to live in peace; and the other five percent considering its chances if it should risk starting anything. It was chiefly because no one's chances looked to good that the lull continued".

I reckon that's fairly true; In Iraq at the moment, some are purely in it for power, and at the moment, their chances look quite good. Most of the people want to be left in peace, which means the rest of the world getting out as soon as some lawful stability can be established. The destruction and chaos brought by the USA and UK make them think that Bush and Blair do not have the interests of Iraqis in mind, and so they don't want them to set up the next state.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 05:44 AM
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3. The ones who were not realistic, were the ones IN CHARGE..
That's what pisses me off the most.. If we truly had their best interests at heart, the US would have hired Iraqi men immediately to rebuild.. If the men of the country were involved in decent paying jobs, even if they were "make work" jobs, it would have been seen as a positive step..

I am well aware that "most" of the people are not making trouble, but the fact that they are bold enough to attack our soldiers daily and blow up their own infrastructure is a very bad thing.. The more discontent, the more trouble we have..

I am afraid that things will only get worse.:(
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