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msmcghee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 06:59 PM
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Clinton says no more partisanship - I say off with their heads.
Actually, I agree with the big dog.

Even those on the other side are waking up to the tremendous damage that has been done to America and democracy. It's now just a matter of time until the pukes are defeated in shame.

I'm saying that when (not if) but when - sanity is returned to the political process in this nation, and intelligent, non-idoelogocal, pragmatic (progressive) politicians are again put in charge of things - that . .

. . any repukes currently in power, that are still in office after the dust settles, should be dealt with in a way that prevents them from ever having any real power or authority in our political process. The same for dems who have shamelessly acted as enablers in this process by playing CYA while their friends took the hits.

Even some of the more moderate repukes have contributed to this travesty - if just by remaining repuke by name and not renouncing what the others have done - for standing by while Trent Lott, and Orin Hatch and Delay and Armey and Dornan and the rest have done the dirty work.

It is not partisanship to politically destroy those assholes, all of them. It is protecting our future and whatever chance we have of setting things straight for our children and grandchildren.

The day of reckoning is coming. Off with their f*****g heads, I say.

:grr:
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 07:01 PM
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1. Revolution?
When the revolution comes we'll line them all up against a wall and do bad things to them until they confess their crimes.

A clean sweep is pretty unlikely under current legal methods of changing the government, but perhaps I'm reading too much into that.

Bryant.
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 07:02 PM
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2. Partisanship is another name for date rape
duly noted, Grover, duly noted.
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fob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 07:04 PM
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4. I believe he said Bi-partisanship is another name for date rape
right?
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 07:41 PM
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14. yeah thats what I meant
Brain wasn't working
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 07:07 PM
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5. "Bipartisanship is another name for date rape." - Norquist and Rep. Armey
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 07:03 PM
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3. You sound like you disagree with Clinton, to me.
Edited on Wed Sep-17-03 07:09 PM by w4rma
No more partisanship means don't attack the Republicans. No more partisanship means work with the Republicans. No more partisanship means to be nice to the Republicans.

"Bipartisanship is another name for date rape." - Grover Norquist and former House majority leader Rep. Dick Armey (R-TX)
http://www.nationalreview.com/nrof_luskin/truthsquad060903.asp


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msmcghee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 07:08 PM
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6. I agree with Clinton.
I just can so easily imagine the tu-tu's like Daschle jumping in with "all is forgiven" - "can't we all be friends now and work together?" - as soon as a Dem candidate wins the presidency in 2004.

Daschle can go with them as far as I'm concerned as his enabling is responsible for much of what has happened. They are like rattlesnakes, you have to hold them underwater for several hours to kill them, or they'll still try to stick it to you the first chance they get.

That's not partisan - that's self defense.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 07:14 PM
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10. Clinton says "no more partisanship", according to yourself.
Edited on Wed Sep-17-03 07:16 PM by w4rma
You say "off with {Republicans'} heads".

This is clearly not non-partisanship/bipartisanship. And non-partisanship/bipartisanship is the opposite of partisanship.

Are you talking about bipartisanship with the paleocons against the neo-cons and neo-liberals?
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msmcghee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 07:28 PM
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13. Clinton said . .
"Clinton said that politicians in Washington, D.C., Sacramento and across the United States need to strive hard to end the current state of bitter partisanship. He said Americans could help by not electing right-wing ideologues to Congress who unfairly ravage their political opponents.

``As long as that stuff works, they'll keep doing it,'' he said.

*******************************

I agree with that. And I admire his attempt to be pragmatic and fair about it.

But it needs to be said that the repuke party has operated as a political death machine aimed at the democratic process. Not just the puke leadership, but those who call themselves Republican - and stood by while the damage was being done - should be politically neutered. I personally don't know of any pukes who have actually called BS on the current administration - so far.

Of course now that the elctorate and media are finally waking up - and an election is coming - there will be the rush to separate themselves from the "bad" pukes. I'm not falling for it. They are all responsible.

Others who run in the future will have a chance to prove their good intentions to the voters - but we voters should be especially skeptical of anyone wearing the republican badge for a good many years into the future. I will be - that's for sure.

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whirlygigspin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 07:11 PM
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8. yup being non-partisan
sure helped Bill Clinton.
The republicans treated him so well!

I can't imagine why that should change.

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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 07:09 PM
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7. Sometimes Clinton doesn't get it
This issue is one of those times.

Yeah, an end to partisanship would be nice.

However, this would take an effort on the side of the Democrats that could compromise our party and cost us our political relevance.

The Republicans will never stop playing dirty, shallow partisan politics. The only thing I see out of us stopping partisan attacks is us opening ourselves up to attacks and not responding. In the end, we look like asses with no position or policy.
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whirlygigspin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 07:12 PM
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9. Act like sheep & the wolves will eat you...
baa baa baa
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 07:16 PM
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11. I think (hope?) Clinton is just saying that!
He sort of has to--but we actually DO is a completely different thing!
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 07:17 PM
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12. Well, thats how he ran his presidency
You look at all the bullshit, partisan attacks that were hurled at him during his presidency, and he very rarely fought back very vigorously. I think he believes that taking the high ground will help him. I hate to say it, but I fear he is mistaken.
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pretzel4gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 07:50 PM
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16. Bill's alive
and Chelsea/Hilary are ok....I think Clinton may know these people better then we do....up close and personal!
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 08:17 PM
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18. Thats a good point, but
Part of the reason he is fine is because the Republicans need Clinton. He and Hillary motivate the fanatic right wing base because they hate him so much.
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Sterling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 08:15 PM
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17. Sometimes? I waited 8 freakin years for that guy to get it.
Never happened. Just one let down after another.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 07:44 PM
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15. Partisanship saved Clinton's ass.
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LastDemInIdaho Donating Member (483 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 08:19 PM
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19. Where did Clinton say this?
Got a link?
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msmcghee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 08:23 PM
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21. At a talk today in Monterrey, CA . .
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LastDemInIdaho Donating Member (483 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 08:31 PM
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22. Clinton spoke in front of an audience of 2,000 at the Monterey Conference
Did all the taxpayers approve of the use of the Monterey Conference Center for a partisian speech? Or is this center a privatly funded center that is tax exempt?
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 08:20 PM
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20. Looks like enough time has passed...
and Bill can come out and campaign. He was great in Iowa and then in California. He did make Davis look like a footnote. But still, he can do a lot for the Dems who need him for a boost.
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