Seriously, NO Democrat should cooperate with the Republican agenda.

[Just Me]

The Republican agenda is clearly tearing this country apart, advancing corporate interests over the American people, REGRESSIVE, and moving our country into a fascist mode of governance.

I understand that the Democrats are accustomed to operating in a mode of negotiation and compromise in order to advance the overall interests of our country. After all, negotiation and compromise is the definition of politics.

However, it is blatantly clear that the Republicans are not interested in negotiation and compromise in order to advance the best interest of the whole country. They are power-mongering, advancing the interests of corporacrats and themselves at the expense of our people and our country, and are acting in the most irresponsibly self-centered way in complete abuse of their duty to serve the people.

It is time for the line in the sand to be drawn and steadfastly defended, period.

[Amy6627]

1. You are soooooooooo right! We can not compromise with these

liars and cheats!

[Just Me]

17. The Republican party has intentionally betrayed our people.

I can take another point of view,...but intentionally misrepresenting the facts about WAR, about our economy, about our future,...is a betrayal that MUST bear responsibility. That betrayal MUST suffer consequences.

[TahitiNut]

2. Hell, no decent human being should. They're fascists, dammit.

:shrug: Their objective is domination and control.

[Disturbed]

4. Why have the majority of Dems been..

complicit with most of the Bush Junta agenda?

[TahitiNut]

13. Collusion, Bribery. Appeasement. Denial. Cooperation. Deceit. Profit.

Threats. Pressure. Coercion. Avoidance. Delusion. Persuasion. Propaganda. Intimidation. Repression. Obedience. Loyalty. Authoritarianism. Fraud. Misinformation.

The above are merely some of the ingredients in the recipe known as Professional Politics. Every one of the people in Congress and in appointed positions in the administration have immersed themselves in this stew. They just don't live in the same "world" as the average worker in this country... not even close.

The single, solitary influence that the ordinary citizen has over a politician is his or her vote ... once every two years, at most. Compare that (all but neutered) influence to all of the above ingredients.

[Just Me]

14. Honestly? They had NO idea that the bus was comin' when they stepped,...

,...off the curb.

They compromised more,...than they were willing to recognize.

They failed to recognize how their own weaknesses were being manipulated.

They are human, as we all are, with problems and weaknesses and imperfections.

NOW, they are being called to not only confront their weaknesses but also define who they really are and who they represent and defining a vision which is supposed to be the core of their passion.

They will become the party of the people because they HAVE TO!!!

[FreedomAngel82]

9. So right

And Harry Reid proved that with his little negotiation with Bill Frist. Karl Rove stepped in and said "no compromise." I didn't know he was elected president or anything did you? Not me. Maybe that's what Reid was trying to do. Show that. They're not willing to compromise on judges, Social Security or anything for that matter. All they're out for is their own agenda they've been planning for the past thirty years.

[Paul Dlugokencky]

25. I think Harry Reid knew how they'd react

He got to show he was willing to compromise and that they weren't. Most folks in this country want the parties to work together.



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[ayeshahaqqiqa]

3. we must define the issues

and show that the things Bush proposes aren't conservative, aren't Republican but RADICAL

[radwriter0555]

5. I believe the Democrats should refuse to run a candidate in 2008.

Let the GOP hang themselves.

[ThumperDumper]

10. Did we run one in 2004?

He-he. Just kidding. ;)


Actually we should run a bait and switch. Run one candidate like s/he is going to be our real candidate and let the Republicans spend 6 months and BILLIONS of dollars digging up dirt and dumping on him/her. Then, 2 months before the election bring out the real candidate. Go positive and squash them. :)

[FreedomAngel82]

11. Something I just thought of

Maybe that's what they're doing with Hillary Clinton? The republicans are so sure of themselves that she will run in 2008 and go along with them. I just don't think she is. Maybe that's why Clinton is hanging around the Bush's so much? He knows all about them I'm sure. They're so focused now on bashing Hillary they won't even think of anybody else like Kerry. And if he wins the nomination again what else do they have to throw at him? If he does run this time around he should go after those SBVT asses and John O'Neil.

[ThumperDumper]

18. True...

What could they do to Kerry that they didn't already? They'd just look like idiot repeating the same old tired stuff.

And Hillary would make REALLY good bait! ;)

Do Democrats DO strategy? I haven't seen any in quite a while.

[radwriter0555]

20. How can you strategize against cunning, conniving cheaters and thugs, like

the people who ruined a fine, fine presidential candidate in John Kerry?

Kerry IS the best and brightest this party has to offer. There are no scandals, no tainted records and a brilliant record of selfless service to the USA for his entire life. Yet, the freaks like kkkarl rove made kerry look like he was a rival to hitler and bill clinton's best friend.

How do you BEAT that.. please, tell me how you beat that?

You can't.

The only way to BEAT it, is to NOT PLAY AT ALL.

[hootinholler]

21. Truth...

You beat it with truth, the kind of truth that you can feel all the way down to your toes. You yell BullShit a few times to get thier attention. Then you deal in truth, Yell the TRUTH if you have to.

I literally begged Kerry to do this, he was too polite.

-Hoot

[me b zola]

23. How do you beat that?

paper ballots:-)

[ThumperDumper]

24. We have to

figure out a way to use their tactics to trap them. They ARE fairly predictable. They WOULD fall into a trap if you set one.

Test it.
Put up posters for a gay rally. See who shows up.

Start a rumor that a certain drugstore gives out free condoms to teenagers. See who shows up.

Stage a flagburning. Sell pink fire extinguishers filled with silly string. Take pictures.

These obvious traps don't do us any good, but you could sure trick a Republican candidate into saying something stupid or spending millions on ads stating their position on a farce issue. A litttle misdirection while our candidate is talking about the issues.

Pfft. We could have them chasing their tails and putting out fake looney fires. The Dem would look dignified and the Repub would look like a cartoon.

[tavalon]

28. Or, do what we did to save the baby seals

When they show up in public, spray them with indelible paint so we can track them.

I'm only half kidding.

[ThumperDumper]

29. That's funny...

Let's see. We set up these fake things for the loony's to come to protest...

THEN we spray them with ink SO when they come to intimidate voters at the polls we can IDENTIFY them as looney's and not Election Officials.

It's GENIUS! ;)

[Jeebo]

6. Every one of these Senate votes should be 55-45...

...and until the Dems get a spine, I'm going to start voting for Greens. Wasn't the vote on Negroponte the other day 98-2? DISGUSTING!

Ron

[MisterP]

12. "Fifty-five forty-five or fight!"

[Itsthetruth]

30. Senate Vote On Iraq War Funding Was 99-0

The vote for the Iraq war funding bill in the Senate was 99 to 0.

Here is part of Senator Reid's statement in support of funding for the Iraq occupation:

Wednesday, April 27, 2005
WASHINGTON, D.C.- Senate Democratic Leader Harry Reid submitted the following statement as a conferee on the Emergency Supplemental Appropriations Bill:

“This conference committee has one simple purpose: to get much needed resources to soldiers, sailors, airmen, and marines who are fighting a deadly insurgency in Iraq, so that they can win that fight and bring peace and freedom to the Iraqi people.

Nothing is more important than winning the peace in Iraq. The emergency supplemental funding request before us -- roughly $80 billion -- is “must pass” money. Our troops need this funding. Our diplomats and aid workers in Iraq need this funding."

You can read his entire statement at:

http://reid.senate.gov/record2.cfm?id=237015

[ThumperDumper]

7. Somebody tell Lieberman. n/t

[ck4829]

8. No true Conservative should cooperate with the Republican Agenda

[Just Me]

16. No true conservative,...would!!! Point in fact!!!!

Seriously,...no true conservative would stick to this leadership which seeks to destroy America in favor of corporacrats,...in the same way the US multi-national corporacrats have destroyed other countries over the last several decades by sinking them into debt with their profiteering contracts to exercise "infra-structure", "rebuilding" skills (charging $100 for a utensil package).

*LOL* These assholes are pulling the biggest CON in history,...and EVERYONE is being hoodwinked!!! They are selling an "idea" that has NO material return,...and making a damned killing in profits!!!

Amazing just how awful this particular regime is advantaging themselves off "human hope",...without having to invest anything other than a willing, profiteering group of marketeers.

I mean, WOW!!!

[DELUSIONAL]

15. If the Dems were intelligent -- they would KNOW

that they should distance themselves as far as possible from the GOPig agenda.

When Dems look too much like the GOPigs -- how are voters supposed to make a choice?

[Cuban_Liberal]

19. Now, wait a minute!

95% of the legislation passed by BOTH Houses of Congress is essentially 'non-partisan'/housekeeping. What is the point in being obstructionist, for obstructionist's sake?

What we need to do is to pick our battles intelligently, and then draw that partisan line in the sand.

[Mass]

22. So we should not vote the transportation bill?

and get one that would be even worse when it is necessary throughout the country.

There are bills the Dems should not vote, I agree (bankrutcy bill, Rice, Gonzales, Negroponte,...), but some bills are just necessary for the country to run and people would be hurt if they did not pass. The only thing the Dems can do is to try to improve them by amendments and then vote for them if they are not too bad.

[B Calm]

26. It's a sad day when I hear non union hourly workers putting

down labor unions. Why is it I never hear them talking about corrupt corporations?

When labor sticks together, wages and benifits go up! What is so hard to understand about that?

[H2O Man]

27. I agree 110% !!!

We need a more creative response from the democrats in congress, as well as democratic governors. We need someone who is willing to risk going outside the box; once someone of stature takes the lead, I am sure other "leaders" will follow.

Some of these folks from the 1960s and '70s need to be reminded of the power of street theater. They need to remember how they communicated values before they were chiseled down to fit into that business suit.

Until that time, we need the grass roots democrats to take on the mantle of national leadership ..... and not only by going to the capital of the state/nation once in a while for a rally .... but by doing the often tiring and unrewarding yeoman's work at the local level. It might be high time to be more creative in terms of street theater in every town and city in America.

A number of insightful DUers have recently noted that we sure could use Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr's leadership today in America. Maybe we could all be doing our part to remind this country of his message.