Every time I hear liberals harp on Fox News' right-wing bias...

[UdoKier]

I feel like they are giving credence to they widely-held belief that CNN is "liberal".

HELLO! CNN is right-wing. MSNBC is even more right-wing, and Fox is ultra-right.

When discussing this with people, please remember to say "right-wing cable news channels", and don't limit it to Faux, because they're all more or less the same.

[BrainRants]

1. Good point. n/t

[mopinko]

2. yup

[Lone Pawn]

3. They're "all the same"

in the exact same way the the Democrats and Republicans are "both the same."

They're the same to anyone who's so far to the right or left that they can no longer judge distance from center.

[UdoKier]

7. Oh please. So you're saying CNN is NOT right-wing?

It's Pro-war, pro-Bush all the way.


Just because they don't say "homicide bomber" and personal accounts" like Fox does, doesn't mean they're not biased.

[Lone Pawn]

18. Yes, I am saying CNN is not right-wing.

CNN, I believe, always pushes what's easiest for the public to digest. The Right has learned to play the MSM's game, and so, after two or three decades of our stuff being easiest to digest, theirs is suddenly easier. We used to be the "bleeding hearts," those making raw emotional appeals over the cold-hearted pure logic of "efficiency" conservatives promoted.

Now they're the ones pushing the ridiculous emotional appeals, be they appeals to fear, religion, conformism, patriotism, or sensationalism. And CNN's lapping it up, because realistically, "THEY'RE GONNA KILL YA AND FUCK YER SON UP THE ASS AND BURN YER BIBLE AND LET THE SPICS MARRY YER DAUGHTER!" grabs in audience in a way that "Let's look for a more intelligent, more responsible solution to the foreign policy issues accidentially unleashed by the unilateral actions undertaken after the attacks" just doesn't.

CNN has no intrinsic bias. They just push whatever's easier. The Republicans, I think, have it easier 30% of the time. So we think CNN's a bunch of right-wingers. We've got it easier 20% of the time--we occasionally make easy-to-understand points about the people in power being bad--and so the conservatives think CNN's a bunch of liberals. And 50% of the time CNN just reports the news. And we both overlook that.

[Burma Jones]

4. Hey, you are NOT being a good corporatist......

If we can't trust the corporations, who's left? People?

[liberal N proud]

5. And that is how they are lined up on my cable system

CNN 34 & 35
MSNBC 36
CNBC 37
FAUX 39

[Cooley Hurd]

6. I disagree about MSNBC...

They, at least, have Keith Olbermann. That alone makes them the lesser of the 3 evils...

[UdoKier]

8. Yeah, and CNN has Carville and Begala.

But they are the exception to the rule.

Fox has the nerve to call Colmes and Van Susteren their "liberals". Has anyone EVER heard Van Susteren opine about ANYTHING?

[Catholic Sensation]

10. her show is fox's abrahms report

i've seen more discussion of the borderline illegally dull world of law on that show than discussion of politics. Her husband had some close ties to Kerry though.

[SteppingRazor]

9. CNN does not have a rightwing bias

CNN has an establishment bias. Currently, the establishment is rightwing, so it falls that way. If the establishment were leftwing, CNN would report with that slant. CNN protects the status quo, not any particular political stance.

[UdoKier]

11. No - They were totally in on the Lewinsky Orgy.

They've been sliding more repug ever since Turner sold the damn thing. I never could understand the whole "Clinton News Network" thing. Sure they covered him, but I don't think they were sympathetic to him at all.

[King Coal]

13. Sorry, but that has "crock" written all over it.

[Midnight Rambler]

14. Exactly

Although I tend to think CNN is more concerned with ratings than protecting the status quo. Once Fox exploded, they started to drift in that direction cause that's apparently what brings in the viewers and the advertising dollars, which is all they realy care about.

[UdoKier]

16. And yet Donahue's show had the highest ratings on MSNBC.

I think they know that if they had a LEFT-wing bias, that they could fill a niche and beat Fox, but their advertisers wouldn't like that...

[Lone Pawn]

19. If something titled the "Boycott Corporate Pigs Variety Hour"

pulled a 15% viewer share, there would be no shortage of advertisers.

[Kerrytravelers]

12. I'm with you. Some are less evil, but they all just drone on, not

DOING THEIR JOB!!!!!!!!!! Reporters are suppose to question everything, not just say "he says this and he says that" and then let the issue go. Their lack of ability has cost this nation dearly.

[deutsey]

15. Related post

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3552603

[durutti]

17. I disagree and agree.

I don't think that CNN, MSNBC, etc. are properly described as conservative. Rather, they are corporate, their operations shaped by the pressures of ownership, advertising, PR and big business propaganda, the state, organized pressure groups, and ideology. They reflect the interests of the corporate elite. So they aren't so much right as opposed to left as they are top as opposed to bottom.

FOX News is a bit different. It's certainly part of the corporate milieu as well -- but in addition, it's a part and parcel of the Republican Party.