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spooked911 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 08:16 AM
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Poll question: POLL: Remember the anthrax attacks on Dashcle and Leahy???
Back in October 2001, right after 9/11, we got another big scare-- anthrax. It targeted the media and key Senate Democrats. And while the case was never solved, the anthrax almost certainly came from the US military. The anthrax was too high quality to be made by a lone wacko in his basement.

So who do you think was behind the anthrax attacks-- who do you think sent the letters?
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 08:17 AM
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1. Other: Freepers.
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spooked911 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 09:11 AM
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17. how would they get high-grade anthrax though?
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 09:14 AM
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18. I didn't realize it was that high grade, but there are wealthy freepers.
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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 08:17 AM
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2. I'm all for choice D
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 08:19 AM
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3. Not so much to intimidate, as to distract and to create fear among the
Edited on Wed Apr-27-05 08:22 AM by BrklynLiberal
general population and thereby create the illusion that Bush was the only one who could "save" the country.
Just another phase of the MIHOP plan.
EDIT: Before others do it, I will crown myself with a tinfoil hat :tinfoilhat:
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 08:21 AM
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4. What we know...
The Anthrax Letters were made by people who didn't do their homework, that's already a piece of evidence that says the Bush Administration did it.
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DemonFighterLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 08:38 AM
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10. What do you have on that?
Would like to see it. ;-)
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 08:29 AM
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5. Don't forget the unfettered access to the Hart Senate Office Bldg
Never mind the simple intimimdation factor. Remember, all these Senators had to "RUN! ANTHRAX!" They left their offices, just walked out. Computers on, file cabinets opened, regular office life, and weren't allowed back in.

THEN, the GOP-led government sends in a "team" for six weeks. Six weeks of access to every Senator's office. And afterwards, half the dems turn into lilly-livered pussyboys who won't stand up to ANYTHING. I think the Hart Senated Office Building "attack" was a far more insidious affair than many imagined.
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Mandate My Ass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 08:37 AM
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9. Terrorists targeted the minority party and reporters...hmmmm
The only people who could have thrown a monkey wrench into Bush's war plans and then the subsequent discovery that the anthrax came from a US lab, which led nowhere.

Very insidious indeed.
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Kansas Wyatt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 08:56 AM
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13. The Traitorous Attack on America was still taking place...
And if the villains were lucky, maybe the opposition or enemy (Democrats or press) would be killed. At least they would fall in line, and back the Holy Warrior Bush. Never mind the fact that the anthrax came from within our own Government, and the terrorists did not have access to this American Weapon of Mass Destruction.

Who failed miserably to defend this nation and who attacked us again?

The Government and press have failed to answer these critical questions.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 08:31 AM
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6. It could be the last one
or someone in sympathy with their cause in the military industrial complex.
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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 08:34 AM
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7. Interesting How The Whole Anthrax Event Just Vaporized Into Obscurity.
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DemonFighterLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 08:36 AM
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8. It was all to take our minds off of who did 9/11
I like the theory of the Hart Office bldg being scoured for evidence to keep the dems at bay. Dascle was scared sh*tless and Brokaw never got his legs back either.
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demnan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 08:45 AM
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11. I think the Bush administration is involved
After all, no one has been in a big hurry to discover exactly who did it, have they?
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 08:51 AM
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12. I'd bet Dick "Go Fuck Yourself" Cheney had some input.
Edited on Wed Apr-27-05 08:56 AM by peekaloo
p.s. Remember Daschle saying he got calls from Bu$h and Cheney not to dig too deep into the 9/11 story? Didn't wanna waste all that time and resources.

p.p.s. Remember Bu$h telling reporters that "he didn't have anthrax" with a smirk on his fugly mug.
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DemonFighterLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 08:59 AM
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14. Yeah, don't dig
Here's your anthrax. :mad:
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 09:01 AM
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15. Fourth option was close, but
It was clearly a REAL terror attack by someone in the Bush administration designed to intimidate the media and the Democrats.
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Frederik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 09:04 AM
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16. Evidence was leading straight to
the CIA for a while. From "Government By Anthrax" by Richard J. Ochs
(revised June 9, 2002):

"The CIA has cultures of the Ames strain.<46> The Agency has been conducting secret experiments with powdered germs since 1997 at Battelle Memorial Institute in Ohio.<47> Battelle received the Ames strain from Fort Detrick in May of 2001.<48> The CIA said it was trying to develop defenses against anthrax, but did not explain why it was doing what other defense labs were set up to do. As of December 16, 2001, one FBI investigator said that the CIA’s anthrax project was the “best lead they have at this point.”<49>"

The anthrax letters were probably prepared before 9/11, according to the report by the American Federation of Scientists.

More from "Government by Anthrax":
"The atmosphere of terror in Congress was expressed by Representative Dennis Kucinich of Ohio: “. . . a state of siege traps us in a state of fear, ill equipped to deal with the patriot games, the mind games, the war games. . .” He lamented the physical and psychological disruption and disorientation of lawmakers at a time when calm objectivity was required for wise decisions"

"Oct. 3 – Senate Majority Leader Thomas A. Daschle (Dem., S.D.) says he doubts the Senate could take up the anti-terrorist legislation before next week, as the administration had asked. Attorney General John A. Ashcroft accuses Senate Democrats of dragging their feet.<4>

Oct. 4 – Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Patrick J. Leahy (Dem., Vt.) accuses the administration of reneging on an agreement on the anti-terrorist bill. Some warn that “lawmakers are were overlooking constitutional flaws in their rush to meet the administration’s timetable.”<5>

Oct. 6 – Under the headline, “Glow of bipartisanship seems to dim,” the Baltimore Sun reports: “…opposed by most Senate Democrats, Ashcroft complained about the rather slow pace…over his request for law enforcement powers…Hard feelings remain.”<6>

Oct. 8 – Under the headline, “Cracks in Bipartisanship Start to Show,” The Washington Post reports, “Congress has lost some of the shock-induced unity with which it first responded to the 9/11 attacks.”<7>

Oct.9 – Senator Feingold blocks an attempt to rush the Patriot Act to a vote with little debate and no opportunity for amendments. Feingold criticizes the Bill as a threat to liberty.<8>

Oct.9 – Identical anthraxed letters are postmarked in Trenton, N.J., with lethal doses to Senators Daschle and Leahy.

Oct. 10 & 11 – The original batch of the Ames strain of anthrax is destroyed with the permission of the FBI, making tracing the anthrax type more difficult.<9>

Oct.11 – First Senate version of the Bill passes.<10>

Oct.12 – First House version of the Bill passes.<11>

Oct.12 – House-Senate debate on Bill starts.<12>

Oct.12 – Second anthrax case reported at NBC in NYC.

Oct.13 – Baltimore Sun reports that the media may have been targeted for a “coordinated bioterrorism” attack.<13>

Oct.13 – President Bush says: “The anthrax attacks might be tied to Osama bin Laden and the al-Qaida terrorist network.”<14>

Oct.15 – Tom Brokaw of NBC opens anthraxed letter containing Islamic threats and phrases.

Oct.15 – Senator Daschle’s office opens the letter mailed Oct.9, containing a lethal dose of anthrax. Senator Leahy’s similar letter was misrouted to Virginia.

Oct.16 – The Senate office buildings shut down.Oct.17 – House of Representatives shut down; 28 congressional staffers test positive for anthrax.

Oct.17 – The New York and Florida letters are found to contain the Ames strain.

Oct.18 – An assistant of CBS Dan Rather contracts anthrax.

Oct.21 – Letters to N.Y.Post, NBC and Senator Daschle are found to have identical handwriting of “Death to America, Death to Israel, Allah is Great.”

Oct. 24 – House passes the final version of the Patriot Act and other previously unpopular Bush projects: Alaska oil drilling, $25 billion in tax cuts for corporations, taps into Social Security funds and cuts in education.<15>

Oct.25 – Congressional mail halted. Senator Daschle switched from supporting a 2 year limit on the Patriot Act to defending a 4 year sunset clause as the “appropriate balance.”<16>

Oct.26 – Senate passes the final version Patriot Act.<17>

Oct.26 – President Bush signs the constitutionally questionable USA Patriot Act.<18>

Oct.27 – Supreme Court shut down with anthrax scare.<19>

November - No more anthrax letters received by anyone.
November – Congressional buildings reopened.
November – Three top anthrax experts with knowledge of the U.S. bioweapons program died under suspicious circumstances within a ten day period."
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 09:16 AM
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19. That's some timeline, thanks, Frederik
The outcome, as we see, was near total destabilization of the Congress at at most crucial point in time. The only beneficiary of the Anthrax attack was the b**h white house.

Since then our guys in Congress have been wary of resistance.... the question is: will it or something similar happen again?
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 09:17 AM
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20. Anthrax attacks? What?
You mean, anthrax was sent to leaders in the Senate, and actually killed some postal workers? You say it was highly refined and weaponized to a degree that would only be possible by some of the government labs that handle such deadly materials? And the trail was leading straight to the heart of the Bush administration? But there hasn't been any substantive reporting on it for almost three years?

Nope, I don't remember a thing about it. And neither do you. Hey look! Michael Jackson's on trial! Hee, hee, doesn't he look weird?
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cobaindrain Donating Member (731 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 11:05 AM
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21. military freeper
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spooked911 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 01:18 PM
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22. Kick
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NecessaryOnslaught Donating Member (691 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 01:41 PM
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23. Who started taking Cipro sometime in Sept?
There are your perps.
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