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Postman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 06:49 PM
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Anyone else have a "problem" with the "going nuclear" language?
Why are they couching the proposed squelching of the filibuster as "going nuclear"?

I realize it is just a figure of speech but doesn't it cheapen what "going nuclear" really is all about?

I also have a problem with describing the WTC attack site as "ground zero". As if the United States had suffered the same catastrophic destruction as Hiroshima or Nagasaki.

Gimme a break.
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 06:54 PM
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1. It sounds like the country will be destroyed
I don't care for the term at all. It's fearmongering and is reactionary.

I've never minded 'ground zero' when it comes to WTC, but I do see your point. It's a valid one.
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 06:55 PM
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2. sure, it conditions 'we the people' to accept the concept...
applied on far lesser terms from a group of people who, imo, are conditioning the world for just that on a larger scale
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 06:56 PM
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3. Well, since the repukes DETEST the term "Nuclear Option"
we should use it as often as possible. The repuke's Trent Lott coined the phrase, btw, but they're trying to run from it because it isn't helping their cause. I think WE, as devoted, caring, dedicated Dems should continue to piss them off buy using it whenever possible. :evilgrin:
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billbuckhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 07:03 PM
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5. We should call it "Trent Lott's nuclear option"
Bill Frist doesn't use it cause he doesn't want us to know how bad it is.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 07:13 PM
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9. Yes. All of our Senators should make sure
Edited on Sun Apr-24-05 07:14 PM by in_cog_ni_to
everyone knows who coined the term and exactly how it will literally destroy the Senate.

Trent Lott's Nuclear Option, Trent Lott's Nuclear Option, Trent Lott's Nuclear Option, Trent Lott's Nuclear Option, Trent Lott's Nuclear Option, Trent Lott's Nuclear Option, Trent Lott's Nuclear Option, Trent Lott's Nuclear Option, Trent Lott's Nuclear Option, Trent Lott's Nuclear Option. :evilgrin:

I think I shall make a suggestion to Senators Durbin and Obama when I email them about the new Jeff Gannon/Secret Service story.

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ProgressiveConn Donating Member (820 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 06:56 PM
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4. Not at all.
The nuclear option is crossing the rubicon. It should be expressed in the most dire of language.
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deacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 07:08 PM
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6. they are nuking democracy, so i guess it's appropriate n/t
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 07:09 PM
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7. I dont see how either use is innapropriate.
Edited on Sun Apr-24-05 07:15 PM by K-W
And using the word nuclear to illustrate the severity of the action the republicans will take is spot on.
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 07:12 PM
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8. Eh. It's yet another sign of the relentless dumbing-down of discourse.
Every issue is distilled into something that makes for a simple and catchy sound-bite. And Americans in general and Republicans in particular seem to have a special love of violent metaphor, which I would say says something about our national character or lack thereof...
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CrispyQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 07:33 PM
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10. They should call it the 'nukular' option.
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 07:41 PM
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11. At least our side can pronounce it.
nt
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JoseC Donating Member (11 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 08:07 PM
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12. Constitutional Option
Thats better, just have a real filibuster and not the fake kind. Then after that the Senate votes, simple nuff.
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 10:16 AM
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13. Odd...this is precisely what the news said they're changing it to
Just this morning, there was a brief report about the language being changed to this from the 'nuclear option'. Apparently, the polls are telling Republicans that "constitutional" is more pleasing than "nuclear". It sounds to me like Frank's Framing (again).
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 10:20 AM
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14. It's perfectly desciptive of what the Fascists want
Mutually assurred destruction.
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