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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 09:16 AM
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Bush has begun testing for mental illness
Edited on Sun Apr-24-05 11:03 AM by Skinner
Here is a story on it

The below superb article in the new _Mother Jones_
May/June 2005 issue ***EXPLODES*** the controversy
of psychiatric drugging of USA kids! Read how drug
companies are manipulating President Bush and state
officials to push drugs using "screening programs."

Did you know President Bush is calling for screening
*every* child and even every *ADULT* in the USA with
the drug company screening programs exposed below?

Are you next?

SAY NO TO PSYCHIATRIC DRUG SCREENING NOW!

Join a peaceful protest by MindFreedom International
to say "no" in Washington, D.C. on Monday, 2 May 2005
at noon directly in front of the headquarters of the
Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturers of America
(PhRMA). For a downloadable news release, poster, etc.
see Protest Info Center at http://www.MindFreedom.org.

*BELOW* is a full copy of the _Mother Jones_ article.
Please get this out far & wide on & off the Internet!

~~~~~~~~~~

_Mother Jones_ May/June 2005 Issue

Medicating Aliah

When state mental health officials fall under
the influence of Big Pharma, the burden falls
on captive patients. Like this 13-year-old girl.

by Rob Waters

ALIAH GLEASON IS A BIG, lively girl with a
round face, a quick wit, and a sharp tongue.
She's 13 and in eighth grade at Dessau Middle
School in Pflugerville, Texas, an Austin
suburb, but could pass for several years
older. She is the second of four daughters of
Calvin and Anaka Gleason, an African American
couple who run a struggling business taking
people on casino bus trips.

In the early part of seventh grade, Aliah was
a B and C student who "got in trouble for
running my mouth." Sometimes her antics went
overboard -- like the time she barked at a
teacher she thought was ugly. "I was calling
this teacher a man because she had a
mustache," Aliah recalled over breakfast with
her parents at an Austin restaurant.

School officials considered Aliah disruptive,
deemed her to have an "oppositional disorder,"
and placed her in a special education track.
Her parents viewed her as a spirited child
who was bright but had a tendency to argue
and clown. Then one day, psychologists from
the University of Texas (UT) visited the
school to conduct a mental health screening
for sixth- and seventh-grade girls, and
Aliah's life took a dramatic turn.

EDITED BY ADMIN: COPYRIGHT
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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 09:18 AM
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1. Oh. I thought you meant they were testing HIM for mental illness.
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aeolian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 09:22 AM
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2. You have to have a mind to be mentally ill.
:)
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 10:00 AM
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15. That's why doctors can't examine junior - his dog yes!
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 09:27 AM
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5. He should go first
But seriously this is a very dangerous program anfd I for one am very wary of it.The pharma companies already pressure doctors this is a way to force conformity, Look,the for your own good authoritarians handcuffed 5 year old girl,who was being a pain and what do you think is the reason it's being hyped on TV right now? To test parents willingness to see thier own kids carted to the hospital, by "offcials".I think.
Nothing on TV is random news anymore. News becomes news because it has a propaganda value.It can get us to react and this reaction can gauge how to push bad agendas past the public's rejection that normally they'd rebel against,it's to condition us,and spin the reality and language into making bad policy look like it's something else to get us to accept the unacceptable.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 11:07 AM
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21. This is fucked
I remember reading about them wanting to test children in schools. This is a dangerous time in deed. They could easily silence anybody who is against them and just claim they have a mental disorder and drug them up. :\ We're fucked.
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truth2power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 09:34 AM
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9. Oh crap!!! That's what I thought , too. No kidding. n/t
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ngGale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 02:28 AM
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39. He's pushing his agenda, I feel being classified as...
mentally unstable coming on, then I won't be allowed to vote in 2008. Read somewhere this is only one point of the program. All we Dems will be mental cases, our children and we, will be drugged.:scared:
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MODemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 09:41 AM
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12. That's exactly what I thought too
Bush really needs to be tested for being such a failure in everthing he touches. By the way, what will he have done to anyone who happens to have a mental problem; put them to death? Sounds very Hitler-like. :crazy: :hangover: :shrug:
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all.of.me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 10:10 AM
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17. me, too! i was thrilled!
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 09:22 AM
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3. Just try to do this to me or mine Bush, just try.....
Handcuffs for 5 year olds in Florida and enforced drug use by the corp's. for a mouthy kid. Yup, time to leave...
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smirkymonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 09:23 AM
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4. Oh, good. It's about time he faced up to his problem.
:evilgrin:
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 09:28 AM
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6. Now THAT'S a real Kafka nightmare.
I've taught middle school kids, and let me tell you with this Alice In Wonderland criteria, more than 85% of the kids could be diagnosed as "having something wrong" with them. It's their age and culture. They do speak out of turn, they are rude, they are loud. And as a teacher, you expect it and you play the hand you're dealt.

I myself was a "defiant" and "oppositional" personality before, during, and after junior high school years, but I simply did not suffer fools gladly and called anyone on it, no matter their authority or position. My father was at wits end as I had an argument against what I considered bad logic. I would have been compulsively enrolled in the mental health/drug program mentioned in the article in the main post under these circumstances.

Aside from the obvious horror of this science fiction, having a regular cocktail of mind-alterring drugs will permanently damage the brain circuitry, not be regenerated after they are halted.

And it's so hypocritical: you can be arrested, convicted, and imprisoned for independently possessing and taking mind-altering drugs if they are illegal (controlled substances), but under this program, you have no right to defer.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 11:10 AM
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22. My brother was that way
when he was younger he had a slight case of ADD or something like that and the doctor put him on ritlian. He told how he didn't like how it made him feel and he was really a different person when he took the medicine. Instead of being a talkative person he sat still, silent and straight up. It was like the medicine was controlling him or something. Now days he's fine and has grown up. That young girl doesn't seem like she was trouble. Sure she might've had a mouth on her but that doesn't give you the right to put her on any medicine and treat her like that. That's cruelty. Hitler went after people with mental health too. I wonder if they really did have mental health??
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Extend a Hand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 09:30 AM
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7. that is frightening
:scared: :scared: :scared:

The really sad thing is that
those who blame the government will be accused of wearing a tinfoil hat.

THey'll probably want to medicate us (most DU'ers) soon.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 11:12 AM
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23. That was my thought too
Anybody who is a threat to them with the truth they can claim nuts. I remember they did that with the guy who was the trial lawyer with the JFK case. Now days people say he was a mental case and a consperiacy theorist but he was probably more right then anything. People who are investigating 9/11 they can easily say "consperiacy theorist" and have them "tested" by "professionals" and locked up. :scared:
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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 09:32 AM
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8. We've been down this road before. Pure evil.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 06:12 PM
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37. Hallo!!!
:hi: :SIGH:
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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 02:20 AM
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38. Hi, Karenina!
:hi:
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 09:34 AM
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10. I'm not a crusader against
medications but I'm suspicious of government activity surrounding it. He needs to be tested himself.
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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 09:36 AM
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11. NO TESTING FOR ANYONE WITHOUT FIRST DEMANDING MH TESTS FOR JUNIOR, POPPY,
Edited on Sun Apr-24-05 09:37 AM by flordehinojos
MOMMY, BUBBA JEB, THE TWINS, LAURA, N-O-E-L-L-E, JEBBIE THE HUMPER, GEORGE P--A PORTRAIT OF A DEPRESSIVE FACE (JUST LIKE BUBBA AND POPPY) AT TIMES ...

THEN, AND ONLY THEN, AFTER TESTS ON EACH OF THESE BUSHES HAVE BEEN MADE, AND HAVE BEEN PUBLISHED, AND THE RIGHT MEDICATION FOR EACH BUSH HAS BEEN DETERMINED, AND IT HAS BEEN DETERMINED THAT EACH IS DUTIFULLY TAKING HIS/HER MEDICATION ... THEN, AND ONLY THEN, MIGHT WE BEGIN TO LISTEN TO ... OR BEGIN TO CONSIDER THE POSSIBILITY OF ANY TESTING FOR ANY OF OUR KIDS!!!!!!!!!!!

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gollygee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 09:43 AM
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13. That is freaky
This is the kind of thing that makes me afraid to put my child in public schools. It's like you lose your rights as a parent as soon as your child goes to a public school. My parents refused to give me Ritalin when I was in first grade. Will parents no longer be able to refuse drug treatment for their children or have their children taken away? And what about this girl made people think she needed to be in a mental institution? It sounds like she was pretty happy, though spirited, and was all of a sudden called suicidal and a bunch of other things and wisked away.
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Extend a Hand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 10:01 AM
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16. I'm afraid of
public schools too. I pulled my son out after the 1st grade.
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scarletlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 09:56 AM
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14. Couple of thoughtscome to mind:
First, it's Texas. Why am I not surprised?

Second, sounds more and more like the old Soviet Union. If you digress/disagree with the authorities into the mental ward you go.

Third, and to my way of thinking the greatest disconnect in all of this; they want to put millions of Americans--adults and children--on expensive drugs. Yet the vast majority of all Americans have access to limited or no mental health care or prescription drug coverage. So how are the vast millions to be put on these drugs going to pay for them?

Does big pharma really think the states/feds will expand medicaid/medicare to cover all of these expensive drugs? It boggles the mind when you consider that even now states are gutting medicaid spending and bushco's budget calls for big cuts in medicaid spending.
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 10:54 AM
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19. This is a NATIONWIDE
Program.

There is funding the pentagon is an unaccountable black hole draining away our money.WE are funding our own demise...
We DO NOT bother to hold the government accountable for what they spend OUR TAXES on. _at all_.The government gets a blank check from all of us every year and we never know where the money goes and how much.The black budget is not even accountable to congress oversight.
People who play sick nation scaled power games like this will squirrel away money to get what they want and who do you think MAKES the money? Who has and makes and trades most of the weapons holding the world hostage? The nukes Biological and all..The US govt.
Money is not the issue here it's not money that will halt their empire dreams to control the world it's the threat of uncooperative and rebellion against their agendas by people.


Bush wants all rebellion squashed and all dissent silenced.They want us to do as we are told be what they want us to be,believe what they want us to and not ever say no..to thier'rule'

People in power want total control of all hearts and minds. If these powerful sociopaths cannot persuade us to obey them,they will call us crazy and torture/drug us until we are terrorized into going along and we inflict it on others and call it"discipline' All authoritarians are tyrants because THEY are the truly insane.They have no conscience.. The Nazis did it before,and their protege's they are doing it again with a new tactics,new tools but the same old domination agenda,to kill the free human spirit, and dash hopes of equality and peace..These creeps want a world where the few rule the many and they obey the leaders and glorify the rulers,or suffer.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 11:22 AM
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24. Exactly
Maybe it's programs like this that is making them want to get rid of the filibuster?
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Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 10:46 AM
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18. undergroundpanther
Per DU copyright rules
please post only four
paragraphs from the
copyrighted news source.


Thank you.


DU Moderator
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 10:57 AM
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20. Oh
Sorry,
I was confused..

I got it as an email and I was told to distribute it everywhere .It says to do this IN the email itself..it's from mind freedom ,I don't think the same rules apply as this as it is was meant to be passed around everywhere .
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 11:23 AM
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25. Here on DU
the mods have it as a rule. You can post a link to the orginial and a snip from the article.
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Kazak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 11:28 AM
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26. This idea is one of the most oppressive ideas I think I've ever heard of..
to be put into implementation. This really must be halted.
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 11:32 AM
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27. This is dangerous business.
The only slight benefit I can see from it is that there are probably some kids (not very many) who need some help with medications and can't afford them. But to subject others to this is unreasonable. Especially mandatory testing. I can't wait for the first lawsuit.
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 11:33 AM
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28. This is scary bad ass news!
I am SO outta here-this country-if this becomes mandatory! I have a child with a disability and have been seriously considering home schooling. One on the reasons is that I don't like how the school and the teachers think they "know best" and if you don't go along with "their program" you become the evil parent and an adversary to them. My son has two teachers, one is special ed and one is from a regular classroom. So far, I've gone along with most everything but got into it with the regular class teacher a month or so ago because-get this-I insisted on driving my son on a field trip just like I've done for years on every field trip since he started at that school! For some reason, "they" (whoever in the hell that is) thought it was better if my son rode with another parent and other kids in a big S.U.V...?!!! :wtf: And so-what?-I was to drive alone to the field trip since my car is too small?!!! Talk about making you feel like you aren't wanted! I was LIVID about this and drove my son to the field trip IN SPITE OF THIS WITCH-opps I meant teacher. But ever since, I've been wary and am looking forward to the end of the school year. And oh yeah, that same teacher will have a baby in a couple weeks and I tell ya, the last thing I want to do is give her a baby gift. (I'm SO mean! LOL) It's her first child and maybe it'll teach her what being a parent is like since gawd knows she hasn't a clue right now! :eyes:

Whew-that felt better-thanks for listening! :rant:
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orpupilofnature57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 12:06 PM
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29. "Oppositional Disorder" is that like going to War illegally?
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 12:56 PM
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32. To FOOL is To RULE
If we are to take any meds, it should be the kind that results in activating BS Detectors in our collective minds.

Right NOW< ITS on OFF.

and the BushCo wants it that way.....
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reality based Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 12:33 PM
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30. Did Founding Fathers Have Oppositional Disorder?
King George missed a beat didn't he? Should have had them all declared insane. Yeah, I know, pot meet kettle.
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funflower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 05:10 PM
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36. HA! LOL!
:rofl:
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mourningdove92 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 12:33 PM
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31. Undergroundpanther, would you please repost the
links you had with the orginal posting? Just the links will be fine. Or you can PM me.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 01:24 PM
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33. I'm already getting help. He's nice to offer, but he needn't bother.
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DemExpat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 05:02 PM
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34. Link to the Mother Jones article:
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funflower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 05:09 PM
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35. This is being opposed by LW and RW both.
Various ideas have been floated for "universal" mental health screening. Generally, the idea is to identify children with mental illnesses in order to be sure they receive treatment and suicide-prevention services if necessary. Often, the idea is pushed by people who are well-intended, but the potential for abuse is obviously significant.

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