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coda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 03:24 AM
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"The Filibuster Against People of Faith - Justice Sunday"
"This is about an effort in the Senate to block people of faith...

- R. Albert Mohler Jr., Focus on the Family board member



So what does that say of the 204 judges that were confimered and not blocked?

So who are these judges, these 204 judges of lesser faith?


Maybe the media could ask these judges of lesser faith if they feel a sense of shame or embarrassment of having so little faith that they were found to be unworthy targets of obstructionism by the judgemental Democrats.

To be fair, at the very least the media should allow these judges to defend themselves against this notion that they are of lesser (or no) faith. JMHO :)


Also, does anybody have links to quotes, from Dobson and Co (FOTF) circa 1999, about the filibuster of Clinton nominees? Surely there's a number of quotes from these people, as they love to give opinions on everything under the sun.

Gotta be a petard or two out there somewhere. :bounce:



Here's one thing I found from a Nov 99 FOTF editorial (not Dobson though)




A Clinton in every court, an activist on every bench

Bill Clinton desperately wants a legacy, and he'll get it through the courts, where his liberal appointees-323 and counting-routinely undercut pro-family laws . . . that is, unless conservatives in the Senate get a backbone.

by Thomas Jipping

<snip>

" Senate Republicans still have several opportunities to redeem themselves. First, they can refuse to confirm nominees to courts where additional judges are simply not needed. For example, the chief judges of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit-which includes the Carolinas, the Virginias, and Maryland-have told the Senate there is no need to fill the two vacancies on his court.

Second, the Senate can refuse to confirm those nominees whose records clearly show they would be activist judges.




(AND HOW SHOULD THEY DO THIS, YOU MIGHT ASK?)



These goals can be accomplished best by Hatch refusing to allow such nominees to progress through his committee, Majority Leader Trent Lott refusing to allow a vote on the most egregious nominees , or by senators actually voting "no" for a change."



(At least he never used the "O" (obstruct) word) :eyes:




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ps1074 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 04:36 AM
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1. Oh boy, that's gonna be so much fun
Anyone knows where I can watch it on the internets?
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POAS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 04:57 AM
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2. Wondering why.........
Catholic spokespersons haven't jumped on Mohler and others of his ilk for consistently leaving them out of Christiandom. Just this weekend I heard Mohler, on a talking head show, decry the filibuster against "Christians, Jews, Roman Catholics, Muslims and other people of faith".

When is it going to get through to the Catholic leadership that the neocon religious protestant right-wing will turn against them at the first oppportunity.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 05:06 AM
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3. the repukes only care about themselves
and that's it.

and that's the frame work that we should use to work with them.

which is only to say -- dems please work together as a unit.
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 06:25 AM
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4. a list to keep handy
Forgetting the Confirmed Faithful
http://thinkprogress.org/index.php?p=701

This Sunday Senate majority leader Bill Frist (R-TN) will participate in an event called “Justice Sunday,” where he will join right-wing religious groups in a telecast denouncing progressives as “against people of faith.” In fact, a flier for the event states, “The filibuster was once abused to protect racial bias, and it is now being used against people of faith.” Hundreds of religious leaders have denounced the event, writing directly to Frist and urging him “to repudiate those who misuse religious for political purposes and who impugn the faith of any who disagree with them.” Furthermore, of the hundreds of President Bush’s judicial nominations who have been confirmed, a number of those who preside over the nation’s most influential courts - the circuit courts - as well as district courts are unapologetically faithful. The list includes:

Judge Jay Bybee of the 9th Circuit Court: “a returned missionary of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, and a legal scholar who has been on the fast track since he was a Hinckley scholar at Brigham Young University.”

Judge D. Brooks Smith of the 3rd Circuit Court: In 2000, the Roman Catholic Diocese of Alttona-Johnstown (PA) awarded Judge D. Brooks Smith the Prince Gallitzen. Established in 1990, the award is given to those who “exemplify in their discipleship the evangelizing characteristics of the Reverend Priest and Prince Demetrius Augustine Gallitzin. These men and women through their lives and ministry in the Church have been a light to those around them.”

Judge Richard C. Wesley of the 2nd Circuit Court: Judge Wesley has been a member of the Board of Trustees of United Church of Livonia.

Judge Roger L. Gregory of the 4th Circuit Court: A biography on Gregory wrote that his parents taught him that “hard work and a strong belief in God would help him go far.” Also, “his strong faith and deep desire to learn filled his mind with a love for the law and filled his heart with a love for people.” Furthermore, he is quoted as saying, “Fear may trouble your mind for a moment, but faith will sustain your heart for a lifetime.”

Judge Julia Smith Gibbons of the 6th Circuit Court: In her USDOJ bio, Judge Gibbons is described as “an elder at her church and a former President of the Memphis Rotary Club.”

Judge Diane S. Sykes of the 7th Circuit Court: On Feb. 20th, 2005, Sykes addressed the St. Thomas More Society after the annual Red Mass. She recalled an experience in which she told her legal colleagues, “You and I have important work to do, maintaining ethical standards” and then continued on to “advise the audience ‘not to put out the Spirit (quoting Eph:10). Against such things there is no law. There is the Holy Spirit in our lives.’”

District Judge J. Leon Holmes: “In a 2002 address to the Society of Catholic Social Scientists in Ann Arbor, Mich., Holmes questioned the legitimacy of church-state separation, noting that ‘we are left with some unease about this notion that Christianity and the political order should be assigned to separate spheres.’ He went on to observe that ‘Christianity transcends the political order and cannot be subordinated to the political order.’ Suggesting that eventually religion and government would be one he said ‘the final reunion of Church and state will take place at the end of time, when Christ will claim definitive political power of all creation, inaugurating an entirely new society based on the supernatural.’”
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coda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 07:16 AM
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6. Yep, that's one.
Perfect radfringe. Thanks :hi:
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Freedom_from_Chains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 06:34 AM
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5. Myabe this is what's piising them off.
"In the 2000 filibuster Frist participated in, Clinton appointee Richard Paez was a nominee for an appeals court, but the filibuster was unsuccessful. Paez was eventually confirmed to the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals. "

(Source) http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:z_Bk_wJK5hUJ:www.gazette.com/display.php%3Fid%3D1307042%26secid%3D1+%22james+Dobson%22+judges+clinton+filibuster&hl=en%20target=nw

Seems like they tried a filibuster, but couldn't pull it off.

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Pushed To The Left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 03:54 PM
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7. Hypocrisy is an important part
of being a member of the religious right!
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