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dzika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 04:12 PM
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MSNBC: Jeff Gannon agrees to DNA test - (VIDEO)
April 22, 2005

Video - MSNBC: Jeff Gannon agrees to DNA test



Video in Real Media format (8 minutes)

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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 04:15 PM
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1. That doesn't mean he'll do it.
Edited on Fri Apr-22-05 04:29 PM by cat_girl25
And did you hear where he said he didn't answer Mrs. Gosch's emails because he's not sure it would be her he would be responding to. He gets hundreds of emails of nameless people. And then Ms. Daniels said well I have Mrs. Gosch's number right here for you to call her. Dietle interrupts and changes the subject.
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hiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 03:07 AM
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91. dietl is very good at changing the subject
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 04:21 PM
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2. CT has 3,800 registered sex offenders?
:shrug:
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 04:25 PM
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5. Florida has 40,000
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 04:31 PM
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6. WOW!
It's just crzy down there, isn't it? I mean they tease you with Mickey Mouse and all the fun you can have at Disney World but that state is seriously fucked up!

The Terrorist says:
"I want to learn how to fly a plane but I don't need to learn how to land it"

The stupid flight school worker says-"Sure, OK, just give us your money and we'll start the lesson"

(Terrorist thinks to himself-"These Americans are so stupid":crazy:
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 04:23 PM
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Goldmund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 04:24 PM
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4. Woah, he seemed pretty nervous there
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 04:39 PM
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13. Did you see the look on his face when Dietle said something
like "I don't care if you want to suck on a **** pump". LOL!
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Goldmund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 05:47 PM
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24. Dietle was such an obnoxious fuck
Edited on Fri Apr-22-05 05:48 PM by Goldmund
But Gannon was funny grinding his fingers the whole time.
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Carni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 07:35 PM
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33. I watched that and about fell off of the couch!
LOL! I thought the woman anchor was great...she is clearly not impressed with Gannon.
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dzika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 04:32 PM
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7. Dietl is such an open-minded free thinker...
Dietl to Gannon: "...I'm not knockin' it. If you want to go suck on a Johnny pomp or whatever you want to do..."

Did I hear that right?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 04:38 PM
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Carni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 07:38 PM
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34. Yes! I heard the same!
I couldn't believe it but that was what I heard and did you catch all the mumbo jumbo initially from Dietl sort of regarding how Gannon should NOT take a DNA test because he might be implicated in "other things"--Dietl departed from that comment later and said he'd set up the DNA test but I found the original comments very telling--

WHAT "other things" will Gannon implicate himself in through DNA?
LOL
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 07:42 PM
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35. The only thing I figure is a paternity suit.
You never know.:-)
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Carni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 07:52 PM
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39. OK I get it lol
The audience is supposed to stop thinking about Gannon's male hooker role and think he may have fathered a child with a woman...that would make sense as a manly GOP ruse via Dietl but as a watcher who didn't know this story I just thought WTF else did he do? LOL
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 03:26 PM
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68. I was listening to this on the radio
and I haven't seen the video yet, but I couldn't believe what I was hearing out of Dietl's mouth. I wanted to reach over and slap him. I did think the woman wasn't buying anything they were trying to spin on to her.
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biscotti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 04:33 PM
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8. I would want
documentation of the DNA sample as it is taken and transfer of evidence, laboratory test site etc. I don't trust Bo Deitel for one minute.
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 04:36 PM
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9. The dog did not bark - How come no one has come forward
(family or friend) to say they knew him in grade school, or high school, worked with him, met in college, etc. I don't believe that crap about people bothering his family - I don't think anyone knows who his family is.

By the way, I don't think he is Johnny - I think he is just another sociopath drawn to the dark side of fascism.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 04:41 PM
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dancingme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 07:19 PM
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29. I saw Guckert's college yearbook photo
It's JeffyJim in 1980 in the West Chester University yearbook. His graduation photo and his photo with a group called the Friars Society.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 07:22 PM
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31. Why don't you scan it and post it here for everyone to see?
Thanks.
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dancingme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 08:53 PM
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46. I scanned it. Having trouble posting it.
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intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 10:30 PM
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51. It's not rocket science.
Go to photobucket.com, open a free account, upload the picture, and cut and paste the top url listed in the boxes beneath the photo. Works for me every time.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 10:37 PM
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52. Oh, I didn't think you'd get back. I'd really like to see the pic.
You can pm me and I'll send you my email and I can post it for you.
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dancingme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 11:25 PM
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58. I tried.
I don't have enough posts. You can PM me, I hope.
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dancingme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 10:07 AM
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62. Just sent you the e-mail
Hope the pictures can be posted. Thanks.
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dancingme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 04:50 PM
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70. GannonGuckert's college yearbook photo
He's the top (!) one on the left.

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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 05:36 PM
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100. Thanks for this.
It's all I needed -- I was willing to believe the Gosch possibilities in the absence of evidence that Guck had a life prior to the porn shots... but that's clearly him.

Whew!

Clearly, Guckert is teasing out the conspiracy stuff to: 1. damage liberal credibility and 2. draw attention away from WHO GAVE HIM ACCESS to the White House.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 02:31 PM
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102. Things are not always what they seem to be.
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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 05:42 PM
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103. I'm totally open to evidence.
It's fun to develop theories -- and important and even necessary -- but i'm going to need some hard evidence before I get too carried away with any kind of theory.

Are you suggesting this yearbook photo is faked? Could be.

At this point, though, the balance of evidence suggests that Jim Guckert is the age he says he is, thus too old to be Johnny Gosch.

if there's more please post it!
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 07:56 PM
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40. Me either
I don't know if he's Johnny or whatever but I don't believe any of the crap he says about his family and people bothering him. Why would someone bother HIM? :eyes: He's just like all the other republicans who like to play victim when he's not.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 08:05 PM
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42. Yes, he's definitely lying about people bothering him and his family.
If that were true, he wouldn't sit at his home in a picture window where people can see him from the street. Liar.
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hiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 11:59 PM
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83. I know if I were his "Mother"
I would be screaming from the fucking roof tops Jeff Gannon/ really James Guckert is my Son, Look here is his Childhood pictures, and pictures from his homecoming from the hospital when he was born !
Leave my Son alone !
He can not be Johnny Gosch because I can birth to him.
Really, I don't care how mad my kids make me never, ever would a time come that I would not tell the world THAT IS MY KID !
Gossip all you want about bull shit but you can not gossip or investigate if he is some other Woman's natural child .........





http://www.seo-blog.org/5755_omfg_rageagainstthegop_machine
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 04:37 PM
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10. SHIT! He's a smart guy. He's shifted focus from....
the BIG problem, how a Republican hack with a pretty hypocritical past and a fake name got a press pass to the WH press corp, to some elusive conspiracy theory.

He'll take the test, it'll show that he's not Gosch (of course), and then HE'LL have been exonerated.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 04:42 PM
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15. You're wrong my friend.
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 04:43 PM
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16. Please elaborate.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 05:08 PM
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23. You said:
"He'll take the test, it'll show that he's not Gosch (of course), and then HE'LL have been exonerated."

There is no way he will be exonerated from what the 'leftist' bloggers have uncovered. He was a fake journalist.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 07:05 PM
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28. I think you misunderstand the point Maddy was making
What she was saying, quite cleverly, I thought, is that the focus will be shifted from "ho in the White House" to that stupid Gosch story (which I wonder about--did it have its roots in some GOP back room somewhere?). He will play the victim and the martyr, and that little "detail" (he sells his wares on the internet for money) will be lost in the media noise. He'll join the ranks of the "vilified right wing journalists" though at the back of the line.

I don't mean to speak for Maddy, but that's what I took away from the exchange.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 07:20 PM
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30. No, I didn't misunderstand.
The only way the Gosch story would trump the "ho in the whitehouse" is if it is really proven he is Johnny Gosch which will open up that can of worms that includes CIA mind control and child sex rings perpetrated by our government. And that, imo, is a bigger story. Don't you think? But if Gannon is proven not to be Gosch, then it's back to square one and that is how the "hot in the whitehouse" got in.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 07:30 PM
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32. If you look at Jim Guckert, or Gannon
It is obvious that he is his stated age, not a decade or more younger. Ears, which do not change, are not the same. Face is different. They do not look alike at all. Thus, I do not think your scenario has any hope whatsoever of being realized.

The missing boy story is hooey, IMHO. And I think it got legs in a GOP back room, to make the left look loony. And it is working...

But the public has a short memory. They'll remember crazy lefties accusing this guy of being a missing kid, but they'll forget about the naked pictures and the WH access...unless the left keeps bringing THAT issue up.

I still would like to know who JimmyJeff was banging in the WH, and absent any other likely suspect, my money is on Scottie, the newly married, gay bar frequenting, chubby press secretary. If you look at the JimmyJeff Q and A with Scottie, that boy has the look of love in his eyes!
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Carni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 07:47 PM
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36. I doubt Gannon is Gosch but I don't think this makes the left look loony
I have not followed this Gannon/Gosch story at all (in fact until today I didn't realize what the story was) but while watching today...my take was that Gannon just looked like he was involved in some other unsavory deal.

In other words Gannon looks like more and more of a sleeze all the time--even if people don't believe the Gosch story (and I don't to be quite frank) this doesn't reflect well on Gannon's credibility.

He could clear up this mystery very easily by parading a number of personal witnesses etc and yet he chooses to continue to parade around looking like an asshole and a male whore--JMO
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jdj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 12:00 AM
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84. be wary of people who use the term "loony left"
they usually come from the retarded right.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 12:19 AM
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87. hahaha!
:thumbsup:
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hiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 03:05 AM
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90. oh my
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 07:47 PM
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37. I don't think people will forget the naked pics.
You're right. The left WILL keep bringing it up. And thanks for the image of JimmyJeff and chubby Scottie. Ewww.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 09:51 PM
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49. *typo alert*
Edited on Fri Apr-22-05 09:57 PM by cat_girl25
obviously "hot in the white house" should say "ho in the whitehouse"...or come to think of it "hot SEX in the white house". LOL!
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 08:34 PM
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76. You're exactly right.
That's EXACTLY what I was saying. Thanks for elaborating even better than I could have.

:toast:
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 04:50 PM
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18. Yes, that's it exactly.
And it's the tinhatters who made it possible.
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fob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 04:37 PM
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11. Paging Geraldo! Make up for that Al Capone's vault shit and get this
on LIVE! Tell ALL the backstory and if it's a Negative then it's still a great tale, if it's a yes, it's a motherfuckin' Peabody Award for you, you sumbitch!
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 04:50 PM
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 05:04 PM
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22. LOL!
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 05:51 PM
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26. cat - I just want you to know that I am going to start taking lessons
from you. Your posts are so on point and pointed. I marvel at your command of the keyboard! :applause:

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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 06:45 PM
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27. Gee, are you being sarcastic here?
I think I'm the total opposite. Thanks.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 08:23 PM
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43. I am being serious, no sarcasm.
You have a knack for making your point in a non-confrontatal, yet very effective way. :thumbsup:

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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 10:39 PM
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53. Thanks, luv.
Edited on Fri Apr-22-05 10:46 PM by cat_girl25
I do always try to be non-confrontational.:-)
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 10:40 PM
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54. I like to acknowledge true talent when I see it!
:pals: :thumbsup:

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Edgewater_Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 04:51 PM
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20. Um ... Why?
Is this in reference to the urban legend that he's some kind of abducted boy from a milk carton or something?
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 04:56 PM
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21. This could just be his way of staying the spotlight
Edited on Fri Apr-22-05 04:58 PM by rocknation
If he really cared about sparing Mrs. Gosch's feeling he would have formally denied he was Johnny from the gitgo. On the other hand, I don't see now Mrs. Gosch would not recognize his son if he visted her once.

:headbang:
rocknation
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hiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 05:50 PM
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25. Noreen is speakin on
INN right now !
reacting to dietl show
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LatePeriduct Donating Member (660 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 07:51 PM
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38. Kicked
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 08:24 PM
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44. What'd she say??
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hiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 12:17 AM
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86. look at post 73 sorry could not get back Friday to you.....
Noreen want DNA with Dietl involvement and you can several interviews on these links. They are very interesting.
http://www.4acloserlook.com/april2005.html
http://www.mysteriesofthemind.com/Archives/2005/archives200504.htm
http://johnnygosch.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=browse&id=16465&pageid=57




INNWorld report has already aired 3 shows with extensive Gannon story coverage.
http://innworldreport.net/index.htm







http://www.seo-blog.org/5755_omfg_rageagainstthegop_machine
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hiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 03:30 AM
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118. Edit very late, big mistake and I am sorry
Edited on Tue Apr-26-05 03:35 AM by hiley

That is not what I meant to say.
Noreen Gosch wants DNA without any Dietl INVOLVEMENT Without Dietl please excuse my screw up !


Noreen is way to smart to trust Bo Dietl and I really don't know why I did not notice that huge fuck up and big apology from me to Noreen and everyone that read that.

Now the links I put in with interviews are good links to great informative interviews.
http://www.4acloserlook.com/april2005.html
http://www.mysteriesofthemind.com/Archives/2005/archives200504.htm April 14 interview at mysteries of the mind
http://johnnygosch.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=browse&id=1...

INNWorld report has already aired 3 shows with extensive Gannon story coverage.
http://innworldreport.net/index.htm

http://www.seo-blog.org/5755_omfg_rageagainstthegop_mac...
:nopity:
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hiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 03:40 AM
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120. Mysteries of the Mind
April 6 interviews
1st and 2nd Hour:: Michael Corbin interviews Noreen Gosch, author of Why Johnny Can't Come Home. Noreen is the mother of Johnny Gosch, who was kidnapped in 1982, at the age of 12. Noreen details in her book the extensive investigation that she conducted to locate her son. 18-years later, Johnny shows up at her doorstep with an incredible tale of mind control and forced sexual slavery. Recently, a controversial allegation has surfaced concerning a man who recently was exposed as Jeff Gannon, a White House reporter, and Gannon's strange past under the name of Jeff Guckert.
snip-----
http://www.4acloserlook.com/april2005.html
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Project_Willow Donating Member (80 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 08:25 PM
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45. INN link please ? n/t
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hiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 07:27 PM
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72. INN does not have it up on web site yet
http://innworldreport.net/index.htm

I will go look for my summary written in another group and put it up here.
Sorry, did not answer yesterday something happened and could not get back to you guys.
hiley
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hiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 04:39 AM
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129. Links to last week's interviews
Thursday
April 21, 2005
Interview of Noreen, Jim Rothstein and Rusty Nelson at web site

Friday
April 22, 2005 is up on site now. Noreen just responds to Gannon appearance, if your computer gives you fits I have already put her comments to Lenny Charles of INN on this thread
http://innworldreport.net/index.htm


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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 07:56 PM
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41. Can some elaborate a little please?
Was this today? I can't watch that video-I have a mac and need quicktime. What happened? Can someone please take a minute and write a summary? TIA! :)
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dzika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 12:39 PM
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63. Yes. It was a live broadcast from Friday 4/22
If you are having problems with real player on the Mac, www.CrooksAndLiars.com has a smaller Windows Media version on their home page. You will need to scroll about half way down the page and you will see the same Gannon picture that is at the start of this thread.
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 01:38 PM
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64. Thanks for the reply and the link. :)
Edited on Sat Apr-23-05 01:38 PM by TheGoldenRule
I wasn't sure if everyone was talking about the first interview Gannon did with Bo Dietl or not.

And Like Wow-it's UNBELIEVABLE that Gannon said that! :wow:

And what I find so weird is that when I did a search for Bo Dietl and MSNBC-I got nothing! No Website?! Nothing on the MSNBC Website?! What is NBC trying to hide? :tinfoilhat:

....now I'm off to re-install Real Player-I MUST see this!...
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dzika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 02:34 PM
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66. Link to Dietl & Daniels page on MSNBC
It's not much but MSNBC does have a page for the show:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7433625
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 03:20 PM
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67. Thanks for the link. :) And another thing....
what do you think about the possibility of Dietls show having something to do with Rove? I posted further downthread about this because of something I read on the Total Information Analysis site that no one has replied to. Just wondering what others thought since it seems as if MSNBC isn't hyping Dietls show much if at all. And since I haven't been able to view either show yet-I'm not sure as to whether Dietl has only done stories on Gannon or not. Which would be VERY curious indeed. :shrug:
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dzika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 03:59 PM
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69. I couldn't guess about a connection between Dietl and Rove
I just don't know enough. Andy Stephenson was featured on the first show so he might have some idea about that angle.
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hiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 01:53 AM
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88. dzika when did MSNBC put that page on ?
This is the first time I have seen it.
When Noreen, Andy, and Jim Rothstein were on I searched and searched for a page because I wanted to say something to them and MSNBC.
Dietl must be sooooo important......
Boy, they went all out with the bells and whistles on that one HUH !
:sarcasm:



http://www.seo-blog.org/5755_omfg_rageagainstthegop_machine
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hiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 07:56 PM
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73. After Gannon was on Dietl 4/22 Noreen spoke on INN

http://innworldreport.net/index.htm

It is not on the site yet. but she said dietl needs a muzzle and she wants legit DNA testing without Dietl involved
he would not let jeff gannon talk and of course gannon is not realiable with the truth.

Noreen also said that well MSNBC called asked her to appear with gannon except they would get back to her after they ask gannon for permission to appear with him on at same time.
well, they never contacted her again.
she was not liking it because daniels said something like we asked noreen gosch to the show and she refused
'noreen said she was sceduled to work today and they never called her back anyhow !

Noreen said she heard many different ages 30 31 48 for gannon and ........ like WTF? basically
she just wants accurate, legit DNA also Lenny Charles said well he has different ID's too like jeff gannon , james guckert, and military stud.
Noreen also said
Dietl could spit in the sample and swab it around or something she does not trust dietl. She also said that Dietl did not let gannon speak that much, he keep interupting.


Personally, I think she is right.
The way Dietl acted when she was on MSNBC was like an animal and he acted the fool yesterday too.
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 09:05 PM
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47. Dzika, thanks for capturing this...
Here's my take:

- The interview was crap
- Daniels actually wanted to confront Gannon, and ask him good questions
- Dietl is on the payroll
- Dietl referring to Gannon, as my buddy Jeff?
- I think DU'ers are right, that they are trying to sping the Gosch thing, for people to dismiss everything (the real Gannongate)
- BTW, Dietl is on the payroll, and Daniels bluntly asked him that too, even referred to him as Gannon's lawyer.

This isn't over yet....
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 09:56 PM
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50. Did Gannon make a slip?
He said a couple of weeks ago it was "six on one"...referring to the npc meeting. LOL!
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nytemare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 09:25 PM
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48. What is the deal with Dietl?
Did the Mafia not want him enforcing for the loan sharks any more? How the heck does this guy get a job in broadcasting?
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 10:51 PM
Response to Reply #48
55. I dunno, but he must have an awesome agent
He was even on a recent episode of "Law & Order." Nothing about this guy makes me want to watch him on TV.
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hiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 12:06 AM
Response to Reply #48
85. Perhaps Dietl is just another paid mouth piece for
the bush administration
and PNAC fan........
Dietl is on FAUXNEWS all the time, you know as an Intelligent
Guest!!


:sarcasm:



They love him over there and on IMUS

http://www.seo-blog.org/5755_omfg_rageagainstthegop_machine
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Vektor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 10:51 PM
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56. Dietl is clearly unstable -
and Gannon really looked "thrilled" to have him calling him a friend.
Dietl reminds me of a sloppy, low-rate, mob hitman. It was really annoying to listen to him trying to talk (yell) over everyone. What a bozo.
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Sparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 11:02 PM
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57. Finally got to see Gannon again!
Sorry, I think he's hot looking.;-) He really didn't reveal anything new, still whining about liberal bloggers AS USUAL. And what is the deal with this Dietal guy? Why choose him for this show? He said he is 54. Who the fuck cares how old he is?
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 12:05 AM
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60. He just wants to show off when he gives a "sample"...
Maybe they'll take blood, not spunk...Can't get any hair...:evilgrin:
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 01:55 PM
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65. This is gonna sound really tin foil hat
but could the Dietl and Daniels show be a Rove operation and not a legit-if there is such a thing anymore-program???!!! :tinfoilhat:

Just did another Dietl and MSNBC search-Check out the info about Dietl from this website:

http://www.total411.info/

"If Noreen Gosch's camp is smart, they will not trust a sensitive DNA test to Bo Dietl or his Beau Dietl & Associates, as Dietl has a checkered past. Dietl has done work for the Communist Chinese and the Royal Family of Saudi Arabia, whom many investigators cite as a primary customer of the "Franklin Cover-up" kidnapping ring. Additionally Beau Dietel & Associates managed the Woolworth Building near the WTC complex back on 9/11. Subsequent investigation of video footage has revealed explosions emanating from or near Dietl's own offices in the Woolworth building virtually coincident with the collapse of the North Tower."

:tinfoilhat:
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hiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 08:02 PM
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74. TheGoldenRule
believe me it is not tinfoil hat and don't think about all the people that are quick to make fun !
Doesn't mean anything if something has to berate you !
Just means that they are not very nice.
hiley
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 08:36 PM
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77. Thanks Hiley!
:hug:
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hiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 11:28 PM
Response to Reply #77
80. You are very welcome!
Maybe, Monday on the INN web site you could check what Noreen said about the Gannon thing with Gannon and Dietl I wish they had transcripts of their shows but they do have alot of video.
They are quick time and slow loading !Dzika is a genius though and knows how to take care of that ! This entire gannon/guckert/gosch
franklin coverup/CIA everything is so complicated and ever evolving !
Anything is possible.....
hiley

http://innworldreport.net/index.htm

http://www.seo-blog.org/5755_omfg_rageagainstthegop_machine



:popcorn:
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dancingme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 04:54 PM
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71. Here's the West Chester U yearbook photo
J.D. Guckert (top one on the left)

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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 08:26 PM
Response to Reply #71
75. Dancingbear, I did receive your email.
And I thank you. I was going to post the grad pic but I see you already figured it out.:-) He really does look like Gannon. It doesn't take much to convince me. What a cutey he was!
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dancingme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 08:46 PM
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78. He had hair in college
Here's another picture. Guckert's the one in the Friars Society standing in the second row, third from the right, with the open neck shirt and vest and jacket.

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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 11:54 PM
Response to Reply #78
81. Thanks for that one. Can you post the other one?
I'm glad you pointed out which one was Guckert because I sure couldn't figure out which one.

Now all we need is someone to find childhood pics of Gannon. Then we'll all be set!:-)
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 09:04 PM
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79. Wow. What year is this from? eom
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 11:55 PM
Response to Reply #79
82. It's from 1980.
:hi:
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 10:52 AM
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92. Thanks cat_girl25! Now I don't know what to think...
:hi:
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hiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 01:37 PM
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94. TheGoldenRule have you heard all of these
Edited on Sun Apr-24-05 01:46 PM by hiley
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 01:49 PM
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95. Yes, I've read alot about this story and kept up with all the Wrinkles
threads, but I was having a senior moment-even though I'm not really a senior yet, LOL-or maybe it was just that I was too lazy to search out the Guckert timeline. B-)

And Thanks for the links-there's a couple I haven't seen yet! :)
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hiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 01:54 PM
Response to Reply #95
96. There are some very interesting and informative
interviews on those links, I promise .
Sometimes, you have to listen to a couple minutes about the minute men or something like that but all in all they are :wow:
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hiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 02:01 PM
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97. I remember you
from many posts on various things and find you always willing to open your mind and think out of a box. And most importantly for yourself .
I know exactly what you mean by senior moments and my being 45 and having those moments daily I feel yah!
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 04:52 PM
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98. I'm 44...
and will be 45 at the end of the year-so we're almost the same age! Thanks for the nice comments-I like your posts alot too! :)

I haven't read all the links yet...my mac computer is 4 years old and it crashes all the time lately everytime I try to watch or listen to anything on the net. I'm frustrated because I feel like I am missing out on SO much of the Gannon story. :banghead:
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hiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 03:58 AM
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124. TheGoldenRule
Gosh, I know how you feel just a few months ago I finally got my new computer. The last one died after driving me insane !
Really, hope you can hear the interviews I posted from mysteries of the mind and 4acloser look.
Rusty has a lot to say in all of them and I am not allowed to say
here what all he says.
rules that i don't get you know...
Your are welcome about the comments however, I am only nice when others are !
:spank:
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Stryguy Donating Member (163 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 05:12 PM
Response to Reply #79
99. The pictures shows that the DOW dropped 80+ points. Thus Bush Era.
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Stryguy Donating Member (163 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 05:38 PM
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101. never mind I misunderstood
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 02:30 AM
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89. Now, if we could only get ahold of Santorum's "blue dress."
nt
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RAF Donating Member (231 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 10:55 AM
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93. I can't even look at that creep
he's so disturbing.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 05:47 PM
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104. No matter WHO Gannon really is, he worked as a paid shill for Dumbya.
This guy is a spy/media plant paid for by a fascist administration. They cannot deny this, so they give us red herrings.

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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 07:23 PM
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105. and like bush* ... jeff is not the brightest bulb ... .a real IDIOT ...


it's surprising that "jeff gannon" is still allowed to walk around...


check out jeff's whole story (complete with his sex-for-sale web sites) at this link (don't worry, all jeff's sex parts are covered on this main page...but be careful of the links on this page, which go to the actual "jeff gannon" photos: the naked jeff bent over, spread legs, fully erect, urinating and more)...


http://americablog.blogspot.com/2005/02/man-called-jeff.html


HEAD photos of jeff from his sex-web sites...flashing his stuff....working at bush* White House....


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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 10:47 PM
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109. I've already seen too much!
:puke:

:D

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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 10:50 PM
Response to Reply #109
110. OMG... should have warned me..... SHOCKING....


:rofl:
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hiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 03:13 AM
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115. hello swamp rat
Edited on Tue Apr-26-05 03:14 AM by hiley
good to see you .:woohoo:

and my favorite "Original milk carton kid"

:)
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 04:25 AM
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127. Way'at hiley!
:hi: Here's my latest pic: :D

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hiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 04:30 AM
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128. Oh I LOVE THAT !
Thank you SwampRat !
Now, I can go to sleep with a big smile and a great feeling !!!!!!!!!

:yourock:







:woohoo: :woohoo:

:applause:

sorry, that is my artistic side wish I had more to thank you with !:woohoo:
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Liberal In Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 09:44 PM
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106. Any DNA test conducted by Dietl wouldn't prove a thing.
This guy (Dietl) has some sort of agenda about his "friend" Gannon/Guckert.

I won't be convinced unless (something like) an impartial testing facility takes the DNA sample on camera with Dietl not present, and it is sent to at least 2 other independent facilities as a cross-check to be typed. The multiple samples could be examined for a match with each other to make it unlikely that switching samples in the lab later had occurred. Then they could be checked against the Gosch DNA.

Any slip-shod theatrics Dietl arranges wouldn't mean anything.

Would there still be a possibility of fraud? Sure, but the method of collection and testing should be as fool-proof as possible.





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hiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 03:17 AM
Response to Reply #106
116. Noreen knows much better than
to trust Dietl after the way he treated her, etc.
:smoke:
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 10:03 PM
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107. Who needs DNA to prove this guy has no business in the press-room?
This is about GOP/media propaganda and who is on the payroll- anything else is just garnish.
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Liberal In Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 10:16 PM
Response to Reply #107
108. It's not garnish. It may be the rest of the iceberg. n/t
Edited on Mon Apr-25-05 10:27 PM by LibInTexas
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hiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 03:48 AM
Response to Reply #108
122. These are equally interesting hours
1st Hour:: Michael Corbin interviews Rusty Nelson, a professional photographer from Omaha, Nebraska. Rusty was the photographer for Larry King of Franklin Cover-up fame. Rusty has never told his whole story before publicly. This is a shocking and telling interview. This interview gives the listener an inside view of the covert world of child trafficking and pornography, which leads to the highest levels of our government. This is Part 2 of the interview from April 12, 2005.

2nd Hour:: Senator John DeCamp, author of The Franklin Cover-Up: Child Abuse, Satanism and Murder In Nebraska, joins us to discuss the Omaha, Nebraska scandal that DeCamp was involved in.

3rd Hour:: Michael Corbin hosts Open Lines to snip-------
http://www.4acloserlook.com/april2005.html
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brettdale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 10:57 PM
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111. This may be clutching at straws
But have you ever seen the photos of Bush touching men and children with bald heads, perhaps thats the reason Gannon has bene having sleepovers at the white house, Bush has some sort of bald men head fetish.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 10:59 PM
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112. He kinda looks like Baby Huey, there, doesn't he?
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MontageOfFreedom Donating Member (633 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 02:06 AM
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113. Curious if this story is still going on. nt
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hiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 03:22 AM
Response to Reply #113
117. Yes, it is not over by a long shot
Noreen wants DNA without Dietl involvement and you hear can several interviews on these links. They are very interesting.
http://www.4acloserlook.com/april2005.html
http://www.mysteriesofthemind.com/Archives/2005/archive...
http://johnnygosch.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=browse&id=1...




INNWorld report has already aired 3 shows with extensive Gannon story coverage.
http://innworldreport.net/index.htm


(earlier post said with dietl Not what I meant to type and I left out the word hear..)
I think maybe getting very old.......
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MontageOfFreedom Donating Member (633 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 03:39 AM
Response to Reply #117
119. Very good and interesting links...
So is Jeff Gannon in fact agreeing to the DNA test, which will prove he is in fact Johnny Gosch or disprove it?

Why has Bo Dietl and Karl Rove been doing so many media stories on this, as though they are going to personally administer the sample.

I'm just wondering how up to date you are on the issue exactly and what's being reported.
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hiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 03:45 AM
Response to Reply #119
121. So he says he agrees
when he was on Dietl but then he also made jokes about how he cut his finger the day before or something and they could had blood then.

I would say that being up to date on Gannon, oh yes.

Rove is little different, have not been exploring him as much.

April 12, 2005 interview worth listening to.
Michael Corbin interviews Rusty Nelson, a professional photographer from Omaha, Nebraska. Rusty was the photographer for Larry King of Franklin Cover-up fame. Rusty has never told his whole story before publicly. This is a shocking and telling interview. This interview gives the listener an inside view of the covert world of child trafficking and pornography, which leads to the highest levels of our government.

http://www.4acloserlook.com/april2005.html
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MontageOfFreedom Donating Member (633 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 03:49 AM
Response to Reply #121
123. Well this has certainly been something else.
Can you possibly PM me any of the really concise, and important links regarding this whole event?

Are you telling me that Gannon will for a fact take the DNA test, what was his very last remark to the audience in the radio show.
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hiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 04:15 AM
Response to Reply #123
125. What I am saying is Gannon said he would
but I don't believe him. Gannon is not going to go along with Noreen Gosch and do the DNA properly. I am saying Dietl is another shill for bush gang. Look into who Dietl is and listen to the interview he had with Gannon and his co-hosts Lisa Daniels.
Dietl barely let Gannon speak
When Noreen Gosch and Andy Stephenson were on 2 weeks before on the premire of that MSNBC show Dietl barely let Noreen speak also.
The really important links on this thread already lead to very informative interviews.
Rusty knows who Gannon is really is.
Go to the I.N.N. web site and download their shows Gannon related. (links on this thread)
Ted Gunderson knows who Gannon is in reality too.

As far as Gannon very last remark in the interview with Dietl and Daniels I would have to look it up as I am very sleepy right now and can't recall the exact last statement. The interview is at the top of the thread we are on.

Sure he said D.N.A. but if you listen over it again you might feel as I do.
However, even if he ponyed up for Dietl , Noreen knows better than to trust Dietl and that I know. She said she did not trust Dietl on I.N.N. Thursday and Friday last week.
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MontageOfFreedom Donating Member (633 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 04:49 AM
Response to Reply #125
130. Ok, I look forward to hearing the full report.
This entire thing has been very illuminating. So Dietl and anyone working for Rove is intent on using a fake blood sample.

Gannon isn't very forthcoming. But Gannon is looking into doing the blood sample himself, is this correct?

By the way, if Gannon is really Noreen's son like Gunderson and the rest confirmed.....It must be very embarassing and that's why all the resistance. I hope something actually breaks from this story.
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hiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 04:21 AM
Response to Reply #123
126. MontageOfFreedom
I will get back to you later because sleep is needed, okay ?
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Liberal In Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 12:54 PM
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131. I don't trust Dietl any further than I could throw him.
If they pony up some fake DNA test, they can say they've cooperated and now everybody lay off the Guckert/Gannon/Gosch speculation.

It looks like that they're not trying to field this story to make the left look silly, it looks more like it's gotten to the point where they want to put into play some phony information to divert attention from it.



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hiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 04:28 PM
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135. Exactly
but they have underlings like Dietl debunk by making a mockery of Noreen. Except, it will not work most have comprehended how karl rove bush's brain works.....
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MontageOfFreedom Donating Member (633 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 05:31 PM
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136. Its becoming increasingly clear to me that....
There is definitely powers within both political parties intent on covering up the fact that Jeff Gannon is actually Johnny Gosch as if it was another well known sin that the world need not be aware of.
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brettdale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 02:28 AM
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114. kick
kick
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 12:59 PM
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132. Thanks for the kick, this is far from over...
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 01:19 PM
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133. From G/G/G's blog:
April 23, 2005

Not Johnny Gosch!

It's official! The tin-foil hat crowd's favorite conspiracy theory has been soundly debunked. Not a single person who has been making appearances talking about how certain they were about me being this kidnap victim even showed up on the show.

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What made it official? And what soundly debunked it? Gannon says no one showed up to talk about this, could it be because the producers at MSNBC didn't bother to call anyone besides you? Yeah, they did contact Noreen but they said they'd get back with her and never did.
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MontageOfFreedom Donating Member (633 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 05:33 PM
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137. In other words, he's turning the other cheek.
Not a single person besides Noreen who called INN, showed up at all because it was apparently a staged setup.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 09:12 PM
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139. I still want him to give some DNA for proof.
For Noreen's sake.
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Liberal In Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 10:10 PM
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140. Yes, Cat...under very controlled conditions.
Edited on Tue Apr-26-05 10:11 PM by LibInTexas
No monkey business. No switching samples.

If once and for all we can put the story to bed, one way or the other, it will not only make that poor woman rest easier, it'll end the speculation.

The thing is, I think that if G/G is the lost kid, then a whole can of worms opens. I don't think the "powers that be" are going to facilitate finding that out. More to the point, if those connections to Franklin exist, they'll do every thing in their power to cover it up.

Including some fake DNA test. Even some more mysterious plane crashes or "interesting" suicides.

If G/G/G exists, the whole of the hierarchy of the current and past GOP administrations will be implicated in such a treacherous cabal, MSM will not be able to ignore it. The walls will crumble.

Damage control will be what they focus on; instead of turning the nation into a theocracy or invading countries that haven't harmed us.

We know for a fact, Franklin was involved with "Arms For Contras." That's Bush 1. Next, with Franklin and G/G/G, we'll find the tentacles of that still present in Bush 2.

Stay tuned.

As someone early said in this post, "It's not over."

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MontageOfFreedom Donating Member (633 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 02:13 AM
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141. Not only that but....
I think it implicates a whole disastrous can of worms probably entrenched in both political parties.

This story will certainly not die....It looks like the blood test will get performed, by somebody.
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Liberal In Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 02:22 AM
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142. Yes, Montage...
I believe BOTH parties are involved. But let the truth cut both ways.

Also, if that DNA test is conducted under "Dietl", or "Giraldo," or "Fox," or "Inquirer," conditions, it'll be worthless.

(I'm a former FOX employee, I wouldn't trust them further than I could throw Dietl.) No foolin'

-L

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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 01:33 PM
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134. Jeff Gannon: critics "hiding behind screen names on the Internet..."
Yeah? Like the screenname "Jeff Gannon?" By the say "Jeff" what is your real name?
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rainman99 Donating Member (283 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 05:36 PM
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138. That picture. GAG! Just lost my appetite.
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