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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 03:45 PM
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Gannon on MSNBC calling the left blogs
Nameless, faceless people who have singled him out and refuse to meet him face to face on TV. Hmmm... Also, calling the entire left press, blogosphere, etc., not "real investigators." And MSNBC? Well, hey, they let him get by. Are you kidding me?
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 03:46 PM
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1. Didn't Andy go
on TV with him?

Just another Gannon/Guckert lie.....
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 03:47 PM
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2. Blogging is nice, but flooded with garbage that makes it as a whole
completely irrelevant. Like this place's reaction to Gannon. Stupid and over the top don't even begin to describe how dumb GD became.
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iconoclastNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 03:50 PM
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3. Why must you bash DU.....
Its so silly. "The way GD became"...all these posts about our reaction being wrong is just such bullshit...there is no way that DU can alter the way the corporate media spins this story. I guess if it were up to you we'd all get centralized 'posting' points from Skinner and we'd all be on-message? Puhleeze.

You could tell from minute one that they'd cover this story long enuf to spin it/damage control it for the RNC. That's a problem of the corporate media, not DU.
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youspeakmylanguage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 03:55 PM
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12. I've said this countless times...
Gannon/Guckert is too dumb to be part of any high-reaching conspiracy, and no one has been able to prove otherwise. The posters here who continue to act as though he is the key to revealing gay whitehouse orgies or something are part of the reason why he is still granted airtime.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 04:02 PM
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youspeakmylanguage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 04:19 PM
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28. Insane? I think I'm taking the rational position here...
1) He was issued day passes, not a hard pass. Since others have been denied day passes, he was shown some favoritism by Scottie's staff.

2) What documents did he have access to, besides WH press releases?

3) Planted stories? Propaganda wheel? He copied and pasted from the same WH press releases and published them on a website that apparently no one visited or had heard of prior to this, even among the repugs.

To recap: Ex-hooker works for little-known website reprinting WH press releases. Ex-hooker asks friendly questions so is admitted to WH briefing room on a daily basis. Ex-hooker asks friendlier questions so president calls on him. Once. Substitute Ex-hooker for college intern and suddenly the story isn't newsworthy in the slightest.

You and others who insist on harping about this are providing the WH and MSM a colorful distraction from the real conspiracies and crimes, ones that involve stolen tax dollars and dead/tortured Iraqis. Oh, and you're also providing Gannon publicity and exposure.

...and I'm insane?
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 04:22 PM
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31. you speak my language, and I'm not commenting on your name
:toast:
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 04:32 PM
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39. What is that a threat? People here know who I am...
Check my profile. Nice move, wow.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 04:34 PM
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42. now wtf are you talking about?
:wtf:
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 04:36 PM
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43. READ WHAT YOU WROTE....
The point of that "I am not commenting on your name crap" was related to this conversation how?
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 04:37 PM
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47. Wow, nothing gets by you, does it?
:sarcasm:

Name = youspeakmylanguage

He speaks my language, as in I agree with what he has to say.

Perhaps you should blog about it,
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 04:39 PM
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49. He, who he?
Who or what the... you know what, this is not worth it. I am not playing this whose on first game crap. Have a lovely day.
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 04:31 PM
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38. No, you are just not aware somehow of the facts
Or you are watering them down for some reason.

Instead of arguing back and forth, I will just ask a few questions.

1). How soon after Telon News was set up did he get his day pass?
2). What were his credentials?
3). Why was he privy to stories before they broke? Shock and Awe, being one.
4). Why was a little known Web site funded by such a high profile Republican?
5). How did Rush L and others get the stories that Gannon wrote from such a little known Web site?
6). How did he manage to get picked on by not only Scott, but by the Prez after difficult questions?
7). Why won't the White House look into this situation which seems a security issue as well?

I could go on and on. For the record, I have yet to write a single article on any of this (given that you know my name... I shake, since everyone here does...comment to post below).

For the record, I have yet to claim any conspiracy theory on this. I am pointing to real and factual information. I am also asking very clear and honest questions that will not be answered.

While everything is not a conspiracy, some conspiracies are what they are... conspiracies... need I remind you of Watergate? Well the same players are back. What, they recovered a respect for journalists suddenly?

It offends me that you would attack DU, dismiss this as Conspiracy theory and point to me as spreading conspiracy theory. On things that I am comfortable saying, I say. When I am speculating, I say that as well. But my god, your staunch watering down and defense of this is really suspect. I am sorry, but I cannot believe this is an honest conclusion by any measure.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 04:06 PM
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22. No, I'm not asking for centralized talking point distribution systems,
I'm talking about actually thinking rationally, instead of implicating Hunter S Thompson and D Rumsfeld in an internation kidnapping ring.

Keee-riste!
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 04:11 PM
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23. What are you talking about... there are rumors and there are stories
And there are facts... Let us focus on facts:

1). He was a planted journalist
2). He planted stories for the administration
3). He asked pre-written (for him by the administration) questions
4). He lied about facts
5). He lied about who he was and who he represented
6). He made sure to get his lies out to all of the right wing
7). He was figuratively a whore, the irony of him being a real whore is just the funny part. But I do believe it is still not legal in DC to be a prostitute, am I wrong? In that regard, you have a criminal sitting in the White House briefing room making up news.

So can you stop with the Hunter this and the kidnapping that. This story can stand on the above alone without argument. The rest, at this point still speculation by some and maybe planted distraction by others, will be vetted in time. The above, however, is fact. It was discovered because of blogs as fact. It was not a conspiracy theory. No, on the contrary, it was a reaction to propaganda.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 04:27 PM
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34. My point, which you're completely missing, is that the facts
went completely ignored THE SECOND people F'd it all up by making the ridiculous assertations I stated. If "bloggers" had simply looked at the facts, the case would've been made, but no. Some idiot "bloggers" blew it way out of proportion, and in doing so dug the grave of this story themselves. Which is my point. "Bloggers" are drowned out by the inane ramblings of the few, and if they weren't drowned out by the inane ramblings of the few why haven't the good "bloggers" so eloquently listed and promoted those 7 facts above?

They can't, because the blogging community is infested with bullshit, even more *gasp* than the MSM, just like DU can be so mentally imbalanced.
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Frederik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 04:22 PM
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30. Is Rumsfeld involved?
Damn!
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 03:50 PM
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4. Someone at MSNBC needs to get his DNA...Maybe Jane Fonda
can get his to spit tabacco-juice on her ! LOL

The mother's DNA must be ready to be checked against this loonytune G/G.
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 04:13 PM
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25. What I want to know is who that mobster reporter is...
This guy never fails to carry the water and in a way so sleazy that he can only be on the pay. Dietel or something? What is his name? I see him everywhere, but I tend to forget his name all of the time for some reason.
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 03:52 PM
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8. Yup.
At first I thought the story was about a phoney given access to the WH. (Not Bush, Gannon.)

But here on DU, most of what I saw was a pile of posts poking fun at homosexuality.

We gift wrapped it for the MSM so they could play down the scandal.

So evolved. :eyes:
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iconoclastNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 03:58 PM
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14. LOL
Edited on Fri Apr-22-05 03:58 PM by iconoclastNYC
So you'd have me believe this little message board with 60,000 members is dicating to the MSM how they are going to cover news stories....this is beyond silly.

As to poking fun at homosexuality (pun not intended i assume)

I think it was was made fun of was irony of a real, literally whore became a figurative whore for the White House in press briefings. I don't recall anyone poking fun at homosexuals.

What I do remember is all the republican apologists on TV changing the subject from him being a male prosititute into an attack on liberals for invading his personal sex life (i.e. how dare you mention he's gay - horrors!)

Which is kinda what you are doing, sowing division and changing the subject onto homosexuality. Interesting...

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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 04:04 PM
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 04:21 PM
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29. Is that all you have? If someone doesn't share your high and evolved
opinion of a collection of amateurs with internet connections they must be a freeper.

That's fucking pathetic.

Speaking of pathetic. Why don't your blog buddies have the answers to those questions you posed? Possibly because they have little to none chance of ever finding out because they're so blinded by the aspect of getting the 'big kill', the White Whale being some ridiculous sex-ring story? Gannon was a winger who promised to toss softballs to the president, and that's how he got it. I don't know why it has to go any further than that, for that alone is damaging, yet when you insist on coupling it with HST and kid that went missing years ago you instantly lose control of the message.
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 04:45 PM
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53. I am not remotely evolved...
I still walk on all fours and wag my tail.
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 04:37 PM
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46. We don't "dictate".
But I'd be very surprised to find our activities are devoid of influence.

Re:

"I think it was was made fun of was irony of a real, literally whore became a figurative whore for the White House in press briefings."

I agree. It's very ironic, and that's is beside the important point. The guy could have been straight and not a escort, and all the issues of him getting access are STILL the real story.

Re:

"I don't recall anyone poking fun at homosexuals."

I didn't use the word poke to suggest anything sexual, but you kinda alluded to that, and many posts did. That dilutes what seemed key to me--another phoney news source in the WH.

Rather than sowing division, I was trying to suggest that focus was counterproductive--as obviously was my effort.

Oh, well.
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 03:57 PM
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13. Have you read the garbage that floods local media sources?
The local papers around my area are a joke with the exception of the alternative weekly.
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youspeakmylanguage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 03:51 PM
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5. He is still on TV because of US...
...and those in the press that still find a worthless wanna-be "reporter" newsworthy simply because he is still discussed here and elsewhere.

A sane society would have let this guy fade into obscurity months ago, refusing to give him more opportunities to spout his endless BS.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 04:23 PM
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32. That's right. The perversion of the press corps has not
Edited on Fri Apr-22-05 04:23 PM by sfexpat2000
faded into obscurity because of US.

Welcome to DU :hi:
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 03:52 PM
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6. The Left Blogs would meet him face to face but feel the $200/hr for
his escort fees is a little too outrageous.
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 03:53 PM
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10. See post 8.
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 03:54 PM
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11. As I recall, he got quite a hostile reaction at the Press Club
blog seminar a few weeks ago. Maybe he couldn't take the heat.
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 04:14 PM
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26. Um, no he did not at all...
You might want to read my reaction to him NOT getting a hostile reaction op-ed.
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 04:31 PM
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37. I meant the guy who yelled at him after the "conference."
Do you have a link to your article?
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 04:50 PM
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54. The guy who yelled at him, was allowed to do so...
After the conference. You are talking about the "who are you sleeping with thing"? That was after. The guy I think was Mike Rogers, who was representing blogactive.

I wrote an op-ed, not really an article. It was posted here a little while back... search "Et Tu Pres Club" and that should come up in the forum or Google the title. It was published by the Agonist, not at my mother ship, lol:)
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 04:55 PM
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58. Thanks!
I thought that the other people on the panel seemed uneasy with Guckert/Gannon. This whole situation is just beyond bizzare. I'm not sure what to think or believe sometimes.
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 03:52 PM
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7. Which show is he on?
Who are the hosts? We should e-mail our thoughts on the current state of the MSM.
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kerry-is-my-prez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 03:53 PM
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9. His body language showed that he was lying about being paid by white house
His eyes kept on shifting around and when he answered that question his eye shifted to the left - the sign that someone is searching for an answer and not being truthful.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 04:42 PM
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52. Absurd
and preposterous
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 03:59 PM
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15. So, the man-whore has resurfaced...
Is he pushing his new tell-all?

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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 04:13 PM
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24. A little bird told me you'd show up with that pic.
;-)
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 04:16 PM
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27. Is there a pic of something... for some reason I never
See any pictures on here. Any help on this?
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 04:28 PM
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36. You can't see the pic?
It's Gannon's infamous nude pic (spread eagle?) but spongebob and patrick's pic are in front of his nasty bits. LOL!
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 04:34 PM
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41. I cannot see any pics on DU... I am pic challanged...
Darn it:(
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 04:54 PM
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56. Gannon, spread eagle.
If you can't see the posted images on DU you are unaware of MANY of the posts I referred to in making the charge I made above.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 04:54 PM
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57. lala - go to "Options" at the top of the tool bar
It can be found between "Mark All" and "Inbox"

"Mark All" "Options" "Inbox"

A screen with this writing will come up:

Lobby / Latest / Greatest Registered user options
User options
Edit account information
Change your password
Edit your profile
Edit your preferences
View your bookmarks
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Scroll down to "Edit your preferences" and then you will need to scroll down to this message/option:

Hide avatars and other images?
Select "yes" if you do not want to view avatars and other images when viewing a thread.

Be sure that "no" has been selected, if not, select it and then be sure to scroll to the bottom of the page and hit "UPDATE". You should be able to see photos/images then. If "no" is already selected, I don't know why you can't see photos/images.

:hi:

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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 04:36 PM
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44. I guess the milk carton idea worked... Gannon was found!
:D :hi:

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blueblitzkrieg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 04:00 PM
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16. Do these bloggers get INVITED to debate him on TV?
I doubt it. I think the bloggers at DailyKos or AmericaBlog or many of the others would love to be able to go on TV and expose Gannon for the lying fool he is...
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The Witch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 04:01 PM
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18. John would JUMP at the chance.
C'mon, Jimmy, bite. They're not real investigators, eh? As proved by how easily they found out about you!
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 04:24 PM
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33. I have a face. Does anyone else here have a face, lol?
:shrug:
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 04:52 PM
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55. Did you post a pic? Darn it, I don't understand why I cannot
See pics. I had a face the last time I checked, but then again, I was not reporting on this story and I am not officially a blogger. Do I still get to be in the "no-face" club?
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LatePeriduct Donating Member (660 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 04:28 PM
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35. Gannon makes fun of the blogs for not figuring it out sooner.
Gannon is not his real identity, its a warped identity they picked for him along with Guckert. He was turned into a media stooge.

He may finally now choose to take the DNA and tell Noreen the truth.

Gannon has been through alot people don't know about, as there are years of MK-ULTRA classified experiments people just resist or refused to believe.

All of them have included different people who took on multiple new identities, like Sue Ford, and like even Ann Coulter. Sickening to think that these people were once actually normal some time a long time ago....
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geniph Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 04:32 PM
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40. Well, that's one colossal crock of crap...
I'm a blogger - I made fun of the Man-Date-Gate - and I'd be happy to meet the sumbitch on TV. C'mon, Gannon/Guckert, studboy, call me up. But better wear your asbestos panties. I don't like liars and hypocrites.
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 04:37 PM
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48. I need a second op doctor...
Is that post way above a threat or was the poster simply sharing his awareness of me just to share the good vibes of knowing or something?

I may be too sensitive today, so I need a second op.
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goodboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 04:37 PM
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45. he's the one who didn't show up...andy did! fuck gannon.
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 04:39 PM
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50. Andy is sick and I do not think Andy was supposed to anyway...
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 04:40 PM
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51. Clock ticking
...15...16...17...18...gone.
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Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 04:56 PM
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59. Locking
This has become an unproductive flame-war.
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