Any one hear that priest on Franken?

[Reverend_Smitty]

I don't have enough time to go into specifics but he was a very liberal Jesuit, and I must say if the majority of priests were like this guy...the Catholic church would not be in such a crisis today. I would recommend checking out the archives

[Ken Burch]

1. If the majority were like Ratzinger?

Guess that means Pope Fuhrer keeps his hands off the altar boys.

[southerntransplant]

2. I think he meant

that he'd like the church better if the majority were like the liberal Jesuit priest on the show, not the new Pope.

[Reverend_Smitty]

3. I was talking about the Jesuit...

he seemed like a really cool guy. He was actually slamming Ratzinger a bit

[teenagebambam]

4. Is Ratzinger a Jesuit?

I worked for a while as a singer in a heavily-Jesuit parish in DC. Although a gay non-catholic, I was very comfortable there and found much to recommend the Jesuits. Very liberal, so much so that they were often in trouble with the DC diocese.

[Reverend_Smitty]

6. I'm not sure

but he certainly doesn't fit in with the Jesuit philosophy...every Jesuit priest I've met has been a really liberal guy

[w13rd0]

11. No.

Ratzinger is not a Jesuit, or if he is, he's REALLY bad at it.

[itcfish1]

18. My Catholic

Church has a gay couple as lectors and all the priests get along with the couple. Of course no one says it out loud that they are a gay couple.

[tinonedown]

5. And it would NOT be the Catholic church

And the church itself would collapse. Look, disagree with any religions teachings, just don't be a part of that church.
Don't insist on changing it. Remember the most important part...
FREEDOM of religion.
Not freedom to change all churches to fit your beliefs.

[LisaM]

8. Well by that logic

let's just go back to the days of the Catholic church when priests could marry and women could be priests.

[southerntransplant]

9. I see your point

I do think think that there's something to be said for working to change an institution if you care about it, but I also agree with you to some extent. If the Catholic church as an institution believes certain things, it doesn't have to change to fit what some people would prefer. Those who disagree with the institutional leaders are free to form their own group, especially if after many years it is obvious that the church leadership and some significant percentage of worldwide members don't want to change beliefs or teachings.

[Mizmoon]

15. Hi southerntransplant

:hi: Welcome to DU

[JerseygirlCT]

10. Even the Catholic Church has changed greatly over the

years. That didn't happen in a vacuum.

If you like things the way they are, fine. If others seek change, that's also fine. Even the RCC, slow though it is to change, evolves.

[Walt Starr]

7. Had I been exposed to a priest like that guy when growing up

I may have actually gone through with catechism and been confirmed!

[cajones_II]

12. Let's not forget the Catholic church made a huge contribution

to the anti-war movement of the 60s and 70s. They donated printing capabilities, they allowed meetings in their basements, they allowed use of their mailing lists, and there were several priests prominent in the organization of non violent demonstrations.

Non violent , that is , until the police attacked.

Then the church offered up lawyers and bail.
What happened to that church?

[efhmc]

13. What happened to that world? The world of rebellion and the idea that

we could and would change things and that life would be better for all of us.

[Mizmoon]

14. Abortion

the American church has been a basket case since roe v wade.

[glitch]

17. Liberation Theology died with Pope John Paul I

You remember him, he's the Pope that lived for 33 days, Pope John Paul II succeeded him.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_John_Paul_I

[LondonReign2]

16. I went to a Jesuit University

I am not, by any standards, a religious kind of guy, but I found the Jesuits that ran the University generally interesting and caring people. (You know, real Christians). There were very few "Thou Shalt Not" type of classes, most were along the lines of "Ethics" of this or that.

The fact that they also tend to be pretty fun loving people (the Jesuits were know to have a keg or two back in the day) didn't hurt -- made them real people.