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cidliz2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 12:45 PM
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Whoa!!!!!!!! Pope Benedict follows Malachy's Prophecies !!!!!!!!
I cannot believe it!
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 12:47 PM
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1. Malarky prophecy is more like it.
When a prophecy becomes self-fulfilling due to overzealous faith, it ceases to be prophecy and becomes merely a plan of action.
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Sanity Claws Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 12:50 PM
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2. Ratzinger must know about the St. Malachy prediction
He must have had the St. Malachy prediction in mind when he chose the name Benedict. It does sound like self-fulfilling prophecy.
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 12:58 PM
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5. That's my point.
I guess it hasn't occurred to anyone that the Papal Conclave could be engaged in the same type of thought process as the ultra right-wing evangelicals in the US who believe that trying to bring about Armageddon by direct action is a valid policy.

They believe that this prophecy names a Benedict as the 2nd to the last Pope, so they chose one who names himiself Benedict (I believe the prophecy also says something about where he's from which is also easily met through a group-think process in which the prophecy is merely a self-fulfilling endeavor). Many evangelicals believe that Bush's war will lead to Armageddon, the rapture, etc.

They're really no different at their core, they're people who believe so strongly in their faith that they see signs and portents everywhere and when given an opportunity will consciously or subconsciously shift their course of action to bring that prophecy about more rapidly.
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Domitan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 12:52 PM
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4. Well, let's hope the plan of action does not extend to the next Pope
All that destruction of Rome and Vatican just to make a point...sheesh!
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 12:51 PM
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3. Can you explain how, exactly?
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gordianot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 12:59 PM
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6. The speculation has started on St. Malachy prophecy.
This is moving fast. It is not good, and Pope Benedict XVI is a rather strange choice given Benedict XV history.

see link http://www.catholic-pages.com/grabbag/malachy.asp
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 01:00 PM
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7. I just found that to, but I wonder if they chose the name just so it would
follow what is written? sort of a PR move.

Check it out:

<http://www.catholicplanet.com/articles/article41.htm>

The First Pope After John Paul II

Pope #111 on St. Malachy's list is given the phrase: “From the Glory of the Olive.” This prophetic phrase has several meanings which correctly apply to the next Pope after John Paul II.

a. What is the glory of the olive? The olive branch is a well-known symbol of peace. The glory of the olive is peace. The next Pope after John Paul II will be a man of great peace. Peace will be his banner, peace will be his work, peace will be his goal. He will seek peace among individuals, among nations, among Catholics, between Catholics and other Christians, and between Catholics and adherents of other religions. The next Pope after John Paul II will have a Pontificate distinguished for seeking Peace around the world. He is correctly called the Pope of Peace.

St. Malachy's prophecy about John Paul II fit his Pontificate well, once it began. But, before being elected Pope, Karol Wojtyla did not distinguish himself by traveling constantly. The next Pope after John Paul II may not have distinguished himself yet in works of peace-making. Or, he may have distinguished himself in peace-making in God's eyes, but not yet in the eyes of the world.

b. Some say that this prediction of St. Malachy, “From the Glory of the Olive,” refers to the Order of St. Benedict, because they have a well-known group within their order called the 'Olivetans.' There is some merit to this idea. But it does not mean that this Pope will come from the Order of St. Benedict, but rather that he will take the name of Saint Benedict and will live in imitation of him.

c. The next Pope after John Paul II will take the name Pope Benedict XVI, in imitation of Saint Benedict and also of Pope Benedict XV. Just as Pope Benedict XV was an emissary of peace, so will Pope Benedict XVI be an emissary of peace. Just as Pope Benedict XV sought peace and spoke of peace and wrote papal documents seeking peace, so will Pope Benedict XVI do also. Just as Pope Benedict XV failed to achieve peace in the world, so will Pope Benedict XVI fail to achieve peace in the world. Just as the Pontificate of Benedict XV began prior to World War I, so will the Pontificate of Benedict XVI occur prior to World War III. After the Pontificate of Benedict XVI, World War III will begin. The Arab nations will threaten and attack the United States; they will threaten, attack, invade and conquer Europe; they will threaten, attack, invade and conquer the northern part of Africa. It is God's will.

d. Pope Benedict XVI will be like Saint Benedict, who lived in the fifth and sixth centuries. He will be a man dedicated to peace and holiness. There is another Saint Benedict, a well-known Saint called Saint Benedict the Black (il moro santo, the holy Moor). Pope Benedict XVI will also be like Saint Benedict the Black. Pope Benedict XVI will be a black man, like Saint Benedict the Moor. He will be a holy Pope, who reinforces the teaching of the Church in opposition to the errors of modern culture.

e. Pope Benedict XVI is mentioned in Sacred Scripture, in a hidden manner.
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gordianot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 01:07 PM
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8. I'm not Catholic but know a friend who has followed this for years.
I am sure he is freaking out right now. The conspiracy theorist will be coming out of the woodwork.
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