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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 08:05 AM
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You can get arrested for a knife in Texas can but its legal to carry a gun?
http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/cst-nws-max19.html

'Mad Max' fans mistaken for militia get arrested in Texas

SAN ANTONIO -- Eleven "Mad Max" fans armed with fake machine guns were arrested after they surrounded a tanker truck while making their way to a movie marathon in a theatrical convoy.

As the group headed to San Antonio on Saturday, police received several calls from drivers who reported a "militia" surrounding a tanker truck.

Police charged nine people with obstruction of a highway and two others also with possession of prohibited knives.

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I don't get it?

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Township75 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 08:08 AM
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1. Can't you only carry a concealed gun with a permit from the state?
I thought Vermont and Alaska were the only states were one did NOT need a permit to carry a concealed gun.
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 08:16 AM
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2. I'm wondering if it was the length of the blade,
Or how they were carrying these knives, concealed or not, that got these people arrested. But yes, it seems a bit odd in such a gun happy state.

Sounds to me like it was more of a nuisance arrest, and in a way I don't blame the cops. It sounds like these people were scaring the shit out of the public, and surrounding and threatening a truck and its driver is a stupid move, even if done in jest.

I think that these people are lucky they didn't get shot. Menacing a truck drive with fake guns and bad attitudes usually is a good way to get shot, especially in Texas.
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InternalDialogue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 08:22 AM
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3. The lobby for the National Knife Association
has really been slipping lately.
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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 08:25 AM
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5. damn you beat me to the punch
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jojo54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 09:10 AM
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13. ROTFLMAO!!
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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 08:24 AM
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4. the knife doesn't have a NAT. BLADE ASSOCIATION
to spew hate and related propaganda
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Mary in KC Donating Member (288 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 08:27 AM
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6. Well, you know, those damn illegals all carry knives -
it's their weapon of choice.
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 08:38 AM
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7. It may be even weirder than that.
I heard a libertarian being interviewed on the radio a while back.
He was talking about how various states have some really dumb and antiquated and really unenforceable laws on the books. He said, in Texas it was technically illegal to walk down the street with a pair of pliers in your pocket.
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TX-RAT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 08:42 AM
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8. Only an illegal knife.
Your required to have a CCW to carry a handgun concealed.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 08:50 AM
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9. It doesn't say anything about carrying a concealed knife (weapon) though
Wouldn't they have been charged with carrying concealed weapons vice possession of prohibited knives if that were the case?

Don

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TX-RAT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 09:06 AM
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11. I think it's a blade over 4 inch's
Plus there are butterfly knives and others that are illegal.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 09:08 AM
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12. Thank you for the info n/t
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Pockets Donating Member (388 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 09:03 AM
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10. Knife laws are state by state
I cheated by Googling this topic. Knife laws vary. I believe a switchblade probably is illegal everywhere.

In Texas an "Illegal knife" means a:
(A) knife with a blade over five and one-half inches;
(B) hand instrument designed to cut or stab another by
being thrown;
(C) dagger, including but not limited to a dirk, stiletto,
and poniard;
(D) sword; or
(E) spear.
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 09:11 AM
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14. Of course. Gun sales are more profitable.
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marions ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 09:33 AM
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15. so in Texas
You're less likely to get carved on than perforated....

ain't this country great?
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Pockets Donating Member (388 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 09:43 AM
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16. Of course...
only a sick degenerate would stab someone with a knife. But shooting someone, that is totally upstanding. That's how it seems in movies, at least.
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tyedyeto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 09:47 AM
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17. And in Az, soon you may be able to take guns into bars...
Edited on Tue Apr-19-05 09:50 AM by tyedyeto
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marions ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 10:14 AM
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18. Remind me not to go to bars in Arizona...
I hope Napolitano stands firm on this -- it seems insane to allow guns in bars. There are already enough places to worry about guns, like quickstops, schools, hospitals, banks and ATM machines.

I like the provision that if a bar allows guns, they must post a sign to that effect, so that patrons can avoid such places. (Hard to imagine a self-respecting bar owner supporting this legislation...)
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tyedyeto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 10:17 AM
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19. But I live here! And do ocassionally go to a local bar.
Plus, how many customers will read those signs?

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marions ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 10:23 AM
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20. well at least signs would give customers a good basis
for a boycott. Bar owners would not like it to affect business, even if they didn't fight it on grounds of endangering customers.
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tyedyeto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 10:34 AM
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21. The sign issue was defeated...
<snip
Proponents refused to make two changes to the legislation that might have made the measure more acceptable to the governor.

One would have limited the measure solely to restaurants, while keeping bars gun-free. The other would have allowed weapons anywhere, but only if the business owner first posted a sign saying they were permitted.
snip>

So, if this passes, you wouldn't have to post anything and I would hope that businesses would post something that says 'No Guns Allowed' anyway.
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marions ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 12:17 PM
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22. I would be interested to know if
bars post any signs saying "no guns allowed" --I doubt it, they probably don't want to draw attention to the issue.
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