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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-05 02:38 PM
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Bush canning 19-year-old int. terrorism report (they were caught lying )
http://www.realcities.com/mld/krwashington/11407689.htm

Posted on Fri, Apr. 15, 2005

Bush administration eliminating 19-year-old international terrorism report

By Jonathan S. Landay

Knight Ridder Newspapers


WASHINGTON - The State Department decided to stop publishing an annual report on international terrorism after the government's top terrorism center concluded that there were more terrorist attacks in 2004 than in any year since 1985, the first year the publication covered.

Several U.S. officials defended the abrupt decision, saying the methodology the National Counterterrorism Center used to generate statistics for the report may have been faulty, such as the inclusion of incidents that may not have been terrorism.

Last year, the number of incidents in 2003 was undercounted, forcing a revision of the report, "Patterns of Global Terrorism."

But other current and former officials charged that Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice's office ordered "Patterns of Global Terrorism" eliminated several weeks ago because the 2004 statistics raised disturbing questions about the Bush's administration's frequent claims of progress in the war against terrorism.


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FloridaPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-05 02:43 PM
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1. They call everything now terrorism and they can the report because it
may have included things that weren't? Last I heard a terrorist is someone without a country who attacks civilians to get their point across. But I notice Bushco is calling everything done against civilians now as terrorism - except the stuff we are doing against civilians.
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-05 12:00 AM
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8. Didn't Karen Hughs call the people in 'March of Our Lives" woman's march
in Wash. DC, 'terrorists'? Just under a million of those home grown 'terrorists' all right there.
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sharonking21 Donating Member (552 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-05 02:59 PM
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2. Stopping it is even worse
than making "mistakes" in it. Kinda like they said that there was no more need for the Bureau of Labor Statistics report on layoffs during the recession.
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-05 11:48 PM
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5. sort of like completely ignoring Richard Clark
I wonder what brand of ear plugs they use?
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sharonking21 Donating Member (552 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-05 08:47 AM
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10. Yes
The problem is they have inherited governmental civil service etc. workers, not all of whom are going to roll over and play dead and keep their mouths shut for them.

I know from a state level that in my agency when the right-wingers took over they faced and still face reality-based resistance from within. We have to get them out of power before they manage to get rid of all of them. Wait long enough and it will happen through attrition.

I think the Nazi's called it, according to Richard Evan's book on The Coming of the Third Reich, a 'policy of co-ordination' of the civil service. In other words a policy of Nazification.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-05 03:35 PM
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3. kick
kick

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MisterP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-05 03:42 PM
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4. if it reports we're lying, it's gotta go:
just like the satellite that revealed that the oceans were raging upwards in temperature and how Hubble didn't show Jaayzus floating by at 100,000 ly.
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brettdale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-05 11:51 PM
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6. Kick and send to media
Keep this thread alive and send this to the national media list, Bush's policys on terrorism is not working.
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-05 11:57 PM
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7. Countries Where al Qaeda Has Operated.
Someone Important Is Missing

Countries Where al Qaeda Has Operated.
- From This State Department List

Albania
Algeria
Afghanistan
Azerbaijan
Australia
Austria
Bahrain
Bangladesh
Belgium
Bosnia
Egypt
Eritrea
France
Germany
India
Iran
Ireland
Italy
Jordan
Kenya
Kosovo
Lebanon
Libya
Malaysia
Mauritania
Netherlands
Pakistan
Philippines
Qatar
Russia
Saudi Arabia
Somalia
South Africa
Sudan
Switzerland
Tajikistan
Tanzania
Tunisia
Turkey
Uganda
United Arab Emirates
United Kingdom
United States
Uzbekistan
Yemen

http://usinfo.state.gov/products/pubs/terrornet/12.htm
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peace4all Donating Member (428 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-05 12:08 AM
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9. as in Iraq?
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,12875384-23109,00.html

Reports undercut Iraq, al-Qaeda link

From correspondents in Washington

April 16, 2005
From: Agence France-Presse

A TOP Democratic senator has released formerly classified documents that he says undercut top US officials' pre-Iraq war claims of a link between Saddam Hussein's regime and the al-Qaeda terrorist network.

"These documents are additional compelling evidence that the intelligence community did not believe there was a cooperative relationship between Iraq and al-Qaeda, despite public comments by the highest ranking officials in our government to the contrary," Senator Carl Levin said today.

The declassified documents undermine the Bush administration's claims regarding Iraq's involvement in training al-Qaeda operatives and the likelihood of a meeting between September 11 hijacker Mohammed Atta and an Iraqi intelligence officer in Prague in April 2001, Senator Levin said in a statement.

In October 2002, Mr Bush said: "We've learned that Iraq has trained al-Qaeda members in bomb-making and poisons and deadly gases."

But a June 2002 CIA report, titled Iraq and al-Qa'ida: Interpreting a Murky Relationship, said "the level and extent of this is assistance is not clear".

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sharonking21 Donating Member (552 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-05 09:20 AM
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11. Perhaps we should have
bombed Florida and New Jersey after September 11th?
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