Religious Extremists Want to Stop Cancer Vaccine for Children!!!

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THIS MEANS WAR.

UNBELIEVABLE. THEY WANT TO TORTURE OR KILL INNOCENTS.

IS THIS WHAT THEY MEAN BY THE "CULTURE OF LIFE"?

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Will cancer vaccine get to all women?

* 16 April 2005
* NewScientist.com news service
* Debora MacKenzie

DEATHS from cervical cancer could jump fourfold to a million a year by 2050, mainly in developing countries. This could be prevented by soon-to-be-approved vaccines against the virus that causes most cases of cervical cancer - but there are signs that opposition to the vaccines might lead to many preventable deaths.

The trouble is that the human papilloma virus (HPV) is sexually transmitted. So to prevent infection, girls will have to be vaccinated before they become sexually active, which could be a problem in many countries.

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In the US, for instance, religious groups are gearing up to oppose vaccination, despite a survey showing 80 per cent of parents favour vaccinating their daughters. "Abstinence is the best way to prevent HPV," says Bridget Maher of the Family Research Council, a leading Christian lobby group that has made much of the fact that, because it can spread by skin contact, condoms are not as effective against HPV as they are against other viruses such as HIV.

http://www.newscientist.com/channel/sex/mg18624954.500

[FreedomAngel82]

1. This is disgusting

and wrong. I hate them. :mad: How can they deny someone cancer treatment? My grandfather now has lung cancer and if it wasn't for treatments he wouldn't be where he is now. ASSHOLES!

[Amy6627]

2. What we need is a vaccine to stop religious extremists!!! n/t

[autorank]

6. LOL, Amy6627, you are awesome!

[Maestro]

3. I don't know why I just want to

bitch slap these people. You can't talk to them because they are so stupid so what's the point? Just beat them even more senseless.

[Pushed To The Left]

4. Religious right is NOT pro-life!

If somebody has to suffer or die in the name of their ideology, that is fine with them apparently. This is why we need to protect the separation of church and state.

www.au.org
www.aclu.org
www.pfaw.org

[Amy6627]

9. You got that right! Thom Hartmann has a great reply to people that say

they are Pro-Life. Oh that means your anti-war, you want to feed starving children, house the homeless?

[FreedomAngel82]

14. It's pro-fetus

That's what it is. On this Christian board I frequent and someone said how it's pro-fetus and not pro-life because those on the right don't care about other issues and if you disagree with them then you're not peaceful and shit. God I hate these people.

[thinkingwoman]

5. next thing you know

the fundies will be advocating cancelling puberty altogether. No puberty, no sex drive.

:sarcasm:

[liberalhistorian]

17. Shhhh, now don't be

giving them any ideas, you know they can't think on their own! :evilgrin:

[Wapsie B]

7. I find it simply amazing

that these conservative fundies never seem to have any of these problems the rest of us have. None of them have been raped or had an unwanted pregnancy, or have had daughters with the same. None of them or their kids has been sexually active before marriage. I think Bridget needs a night out with the boys and chill out.

[KittyWampus]

8. I Am Not Convinced. Pharmaceutical Companies Are NOT Altruistic.

and there seems to be ever more "vaccines" for our children to be taking.

Is there some kind of huge uptick in instances of cervical cancer?

[Massacure]

10. one case is too many.

[KittyWampus]

12. That Is Not Only Irrational, It's Bad Science. Only In Fairyland Do People

not get diseases such as cancer and ultimately die.

Excepting of course those who practise the more esoteric forms of yoga.

[Massacure]

13. Explain.

[liberalhistorian]

19. Not here, but in Third World countries.

Even here, though, there are far too many cases. And it is, for the most part, caused by the virus they're talking about. If they have a vaccine for use against that virus, then that would be a tremendous step in preventing cervical cancer altogether.

[Lars39]

22. Yes, there is.

http://www.cancer.org/docroot/CRI/content/CRI_2_4_1X_What_is_cervical_cancer_8.asp


There are 2 main types of cervical cancers: squamous cell carcinoma and adenocarcinoma. Cervical cancers and cervical precancers are classified by how they look under a microscope. About 80% to 90% of cervical cancers are squamous cell carcinomas, which are composed of cells that resemble the flat, thin cells called squamous cells that cover the surface of the endocervix. Squamous cell carcinomas most often begin where the ectocervix joins the endocervix.

The remaining 10% to 20% of cervical cancers are adenocarcinomas. Adenocarcinomas are becoming more common in women born in the last 20 to 30 years. Cervical adenocarcinoma develops from the mucus-producing gland cells of the endocervix. Less commonly, cervical cancers have features of both squamous cell carcinomas and adenocarcinomas. These are called adenosquamous carcinomas or mixed carcinomas.

Cervical cancers do not form suddenly. Normal cervical cells gradually develop precancerous changes that turn into cancer. This process usually takes many years but sometimes can happen in less than a year. Doctors use several terms to describe these precancerous changes, including cervical intraepithelial neoplasia (CIN), squamous intraepithelial lesion (SIL), and dysplasia.

For most women, precancerous cells will remain unchanged and go away without any treatment. But if these precancers are treated, almost all true cancers can be prevented. Precancerous changes and specific types of treatment for precancers are discussed in the section "Can Cervical Cancer Be Prevented?"

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

23. Yes.

Papilloma virus(venereal warts) is becoming more prevalent and if it invades the uterus, the incidence of cervical cancer is disturbing.

http://www.emedicine.com/med/topic1037.htm

[KittyWampus]

11. BTW, Thread Title Is Misleading. There IS No Cancer Vaccine

This refers to a vaccine that supposedly innoculates against human pappilloma virus that supposedly MAY lead to SOME recorded instances of cervical cancer.

[Tanuki]

15. You are mistaken, Cryingshame.

Please educate yourself about this important health issue:
http://www.thedoctorslounge.net/oncolounge/articles/hpv_vaccine/
Excerpt: "Writing in the lead article of this week's issue of The Lancet, Harper and her fellow authors said the vaccine has the potential to greatly reduce deaths from cervical cancer, one of the leading causes of cancer mortality among women worldwide. The vaccine is targeted to immunize against two different types of high risk Human Papillomavirus (HPV-16 and HPV-18) that cause an estimated 70 percent of cervical cancer cases. "

In the study, the vaccine was virtually 100% effective in preventing persistent HPV infection.

[KittyWampus]

25. Again, There Is NO Vaccine To Innoculate Against Cancer.

[Lars39]

27. The innoculation is against the VIRUS that causes cervical cancer.

[autorank]

18. Hey, knock it off. This is serious. Cervical cancer is closely linked

to HPV, very closely. There are hundreds of thousands of cases. In the third world it is fatal often. Here, it can be treated. Now let's take the case of HPV. This is just awful for those who have it. Preventing this alone is well worth the effort even if cancer were not involved. Why are you making comments about bad science when you are speaking from limited information.

The thread title isn't misleading. This vaccine prevents cervical cancer linked to HPV, hence the title.

[KittyWampus]

26. Again, Once More, The Vaccine Immunizes Against A VIRUS NOT CANCER

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28. Go argue with NewScientist, but read this first:

"DEATHS from cervical cancer could jump fourfold to a million a year by 2050, mainly in developing countries. This could be prevented by soon-to-be-approved vaccines against the virus that causes most cases of cervical cancer - but there are signs that opposition to the vaccines might lead to many preventable deaths."

This is from up there (the original post) but I put it down here just for you to read it again. 1,000,000 deaths a year, vaccine is against "virus that causes MOST CASES of cervical cancer"...THEREFORE IT'S A CANCER PREVENTION VACCINE.

[NYC]

16. Why don't the holier-than-thou just not get the vaccine themselves,

instead of preventing other people from getting it?

...In the US, for instance, religious groups are gearing up to oppose vaccination, despite a survey showing 80 per cent of parents favour vaccinating their daughters...

The religious groups can refuse the vaccine if they want to.

[autorank]

20. Good point. But, nooo, they can't do that. These are the same

people who believe that anyone who diverges from their view of Christianity will be confined to Hell for an eternity of torture and pain. These people are sick!

[liberalhistorian]

21. But that's not good enough for them, as usual.

They want to impose and force their beliefs down everyone else's throat as well; they know what's best for everyone else's kids, too, not just their own.

I'm so tired of this shit from these people. They are really making the rest of us Christians look bad and I'm sick of it.

[Gman]

24. They really and actually do make this stuff up

"...condoms are not as effective against HPV as they are against other viruses such as HIV."