Real Time w/ Bill Maher: Gen Clark is on tonight

[Cush]

about to start on HBO

[Clarkie1]

1. No HBO here.

:-(

[AlCzervik]

2. that Tom Delay opener was brilliant!!!!!

[Cush]

3. "paid for by some Russian Guys"

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

5. More info, please

for the HBO-deprived.

[AlCzervik]

14. it was a commercial from "Friends of Tom Delay"

it went something like this-if you support tom delay, show him by getting $20,000 and putting in 2 piles, put 1 pile in an envelope and send it to So and so Indian gaming council, then take the other pile, call this phone number, land line only, when a woman answers hang up, take the pile of money and put it in a bag, go to the Washington monument, put the bag down and slowly walk away without looking back.

[kliljedahl]

4. No HBO here, barely can afford basic

http://www.kliljedahl.net

[Sparkly]

6. Fill us in!!!

Pleeeeeze!!

[Cush]

7. on Bush's tax forms

he labeled the Christian Coalition as dependents, the 2000 election as a gift and he put down all the free mileage he got from 9/11

[Cush]

8. Thomas Friedman up first

[Clark2008]

9. Yes... please! Run commentary for those of us who are too poor

to afford HBO!

[Cush]

10. Friedman is sucking up to Bush

[Clark2008]

12. Well, is that surprising?

[Career Prole]

55. They got going on gun control...

Clark said he has 20 guns in his house "...and I'm a Democrat!"
The best part? He said "No one needs an assault weapon. If you want an assault weapon we'll give you one. We'll give you a uniform and boots, too!"
:bounce:

[Clark2008]

11. kick!

:kick:

[Cush]

13. panel up now

it's Wes Clark, David Frum, & Natalie Maines

[xultar]

15. Ahhhhh what could have been I love you WESLEY K. CLARK!!!!

:cry::loveya:

[Clarkie1]

16. What is he saying?

[xultar]

17. They were talking about what was going on in Sudan and how Clark

would take care of the problem compared to the Bosnia thing.

[AlCzervik]

18. David Frum making excues for Bush now about not intervening in the Sudan

[susanna]

40. Frum pulled something...

out of his arse about "there are political considerations" about intervening in Darfour. Wesley Clark says straight up, "No, this has gone on too long and we should stop it -- it's a genocide." (I paraphrased here.)

[AlCzervik]

50. i swear if he said "Don't piggyback that issue" one more time

i was going to scream. thats either new gop code speak or he gets $10 everytime he says it.

[xultar]

54. That'll be the name of his next book I'm sure. n/t

[AlCzervik]

63. as opposed to mine which will be "Hey asshole don't bogart that joint"

i wish i had a joint after watching that assclown. His support of guns is amazing, does he strike you as a gun owner?

[susanna]

68. LOL - "don't Bogart that joint, pal!"

I actually think he isn't a gun owner. He made no technically coherent arguments for/about guns. I'm betting Wesley Clark could school him there.

Which reminds me - Clark once again points out to the pro-war folks, "we have all the automatic weapons you want - just sign on the dotted line to join the Armed Forces." (Lots of applause to that one, as I'm sure you noted.)

[susanna]

60. No kidding!

I'm listening to his "don't piggyback that issue," and I'm screaming inside about, "well then, tell your side not to piggyback EVERYTHING (including The Patriot Act, Dept. of Homeland Security, blah blah blah to infinity) on the back of 9/11. Then we can chat."

edited because I got excited and didn't complete a thought.

[Adelante]

83. That's my man!!!

Yes. Yes. Yes.

If only he could have had his way in Rwanda :cry:

[susanna]

95. Just watched "Sometimes in April" (about Rwanda)

this afternoon. Made me sick to my stomach because it was not a National Security issue for the U.S., so, tough luck, folks. The culture of greed (i.e., selective Isolationism) is decimating America's heritage.

FYI, WesDem - General Clark was my first choice in 2004. I campaigned for him as best I could, and will do it again in a heartbeat if he runs. :-)

[Clark2008]

19. I'm watching duel threads...

This one and one here: http://chat.forclark.com/story/2005/4/15/23856/2947#7

So far, very little about what's being said.

[xultar]

21. Clark is gonna give Bill a beatin over his compliments to the Bush Admin

over Iraq.

[xultar]

20. Clark is gonna give Bill Maher some ass whoopin over the Iraq thing

YEA!!! WHOOOP Bill's Ass Clark!!

[Cush]

22. talking about Bush treats the soldiers

its everyone vs David Frum on this one

[Clark2008]

23. I wish I had HBO

Kickin' it for more commentary!

Please!

[Cush]

24. talking about "Revelations"

the NBC mini series and how other networks are copying

CBS will have:

CSI Gomorrah

UPN: Americas Next Mesiah

FOX: The Simple After LIfe

LIVE with Regis & Eve

Real WOrld Galiee

[xultar]

26. Jesus ends up with 2 dates to the last supper - Jesus in Progress! n/t

[Cush]

25. Sen Boxer up now

talking about Bolton

[Clark2008]

28. Boxer?

Is it a commercial or some news bite?

I didn't know she was there.

[xultar]

27. Tonights show is LAME. Clark isn't getting the opportunity to shine. n/t

[tallahasseedem]

29. I agree...

He just needs to butt in and let it rip. He's too much of a gentleman though.

[Clark2008]

30. He's learning to do this - I've seen him do it with righties a lot

Like when he kicked Scarborough's ass and Asman's ass on Faux.

He needs to do it here, too, from what y'all are saying.

[xultar]

58. This is different cuz it is on cable and things can get raunchy so

I'm sure he was cautious for that reason too. Clark does watch the show though cuz he knows about Maher giving chimpy props on bringing democracy to the arab world.

[LSK]

31. i know this was glazed over, but Boxer said we are a big tent

Could this be our problem??? She said even thou you may disagree with us on a certain issue, there are other issues out there. Maybe that is our problem thou. I think people who vote Rethug only have one issue such as guns or abortion, and they just dont care about any other issues. I see it daily on a car messageboard. They are so anal about the gun issue or some other stupid issue and they never care about other issues that the Dems favor that they might agree with.

Could our problem being that we try to be the big tent???

[Cush]

32. Clark to Frum: "Lets not talk about proliferation , you're gonna lose"

about nuclear proliferation

[xultar]

35. BOOM SHAKA LAKA LAKA! n/t

[EFerrari]

38. lol. n/t

[susanna]

56. EXCELLENT exchange there.

Frum pretty much gave it up.

[EFerrari]

33. I'm not a Clarkie and even though he's been a little quiet tonight

(as opposed to the Frum Bush wh2re) whenever Wes opens his mouth, you're glad he did.

The crowd is going nuts over everything he says. Like a lot of smart people, he holds back sometimes. Better part of wisdom.

(They're talking about guns right now. Frum is being an (informed) ass who makes no sense no matter what he says.)

[xultar]

42. Yes, he's been quiet, I was concerned. But he's done well. The

audience seems to have taken to him.

He's given them his political side, human side, comedic side, soldier side, tough guy side, and his Presidential side.

[EFerrari]

47. The audience wants to eat him with a spoon.

And I'm a circus person, wouldn't say that lightly :)

[Clark2008]

61. I've often dreamed of that!

:loveya:

Yewwwoooccchh!! Sorry - Gert just hit me with a rolling pin. :7

[EFerrari]

69. whoa. just, whoa. lol

He is a really attractive human bean, that's for sure.

Attractive, smart, well spoken, down to earth. Nope, it'll never happen.

lol

[Clark2008]

76. I know... he's old enough to be my Dad, but he's just so beautiful

I'd make soup with his human beans any da... yeeeowwchhh... now I'm getting Gert's silver hammer. ;)

Seriously, though. He is a fantastic role model for my son - almost 6 years old (met Clark when he was 4 years old). He thinks Mom hung the moon and General Clark did everything else. ;)

[EFerrari]

80. Now, there's a very respectable worldview

:)

[Career Prole]

34. "YOUR president" !

Gen. Clark just told Frum "...but your president..."
Frum sputtered "He's your president!"
Go, General!!
:yourock:

[senseandsensibility]

36. I like it!

Keep the updates coming!

[EFerrari]

37. god, what a relief. a man with a brain! n/t

[xultar]

39. YO President MUTHERFUCKER! BUHWAWAAAAAA n/t

[Clark2008]

49. Not MY president

That would be Sir General. ;)

[Cush]

41. Britney must name her baby "Shithead"

[xultar]

44. Redneck version of Apple! Love it!!! n/t

[EFerrari]

43. at the end, they got into tom delay

"I think that people who have been brought up on ethics violations shouldn't be allowed to play golf. How can you trust their scoring?"

Hey, I'd walk for this guy :)

[xultar]

46. Funny as hell. GREAT LINE. The audience ate that up! n/t

[EFerrari]

52. You have to get behind someone that can make a bunch of kids

laugh about GOLF!

DO YOU KNOW HOW HARD THAT IS?


I think you'll get your wish, xultar. :hi:

[napi21]

45. It's on at 1:00AM here in Ga. on HBO2.

I don't know if it was on earlier or not, but I just checked my cable listing and for anyone who can stay up that late, it's scheduled for 1:00AM.

[xultar]

48. I'm in GA too! n/t

[xultar]

51. If you give the kids an inch the authorites will raid your neverland ranch

buhwaaaaaaaaa!

[xultar]

53. I won't start having kids until other people have kids I'd want them to

play with.

funny line!

[tallahasseedem]

57. Im thinking moveon.org isnt too happy with Bill tonight....

his comment about them being a lost cause, in my opinion, was out of line.

[xultar]

59. WTF is up with Bill, he likes Chimpy's SS plan and he's giving the

NeoCons props on the Iraq war for bringing democracy to the middle east.

But he'll go back to Nader because of what Dean said on a couple of issues and over guns? WTF?

[tallahasseedem]

64. I know...

he never elaborated about the social security thing. I couldn't believe it when he said it! Whats next? Agreeing with Rush Limbaugh?

[Clark2008]

66. Libertarian sleeping with Coulter... whadda ya expect?

[Adelante]

84. Does he sleep with her?

Yikes.

[atre]

62. Not an impressive showing

Aside from a couple great zingers from Clark, Frum dominated the panel discussions.

[xultar]

65. Agreed. n/t

[tallahasseedem]

72. None of the episodes this season are impressive...

Im not sure what happened to Bill but I have about had it. We need to find out who slipped him a kool-aid mickey.

[Clark2008]

73. Rightwingers always do

But, as with Schavio, sometimes, if you'll just let them, they'll hang themselves.
From what I could tell on here and the other thread I was "Clark monitoring" on, he didn't speak often, but when he did, it was clear outta the park and onto the freeway.
Frum talked 'til he sputtered and then Clark went in for the kill.

That's all it takes, really. You don't have to talk alot to carry a big stick. ;)

[EFerrari]

81. He dominated it with his incoherent BS.

It was an awkward panel. Everytime I tried to follow Frum, he led the discussion right off a cliff.

[deacon]

67. He's the guy i will be supporting, sorry Hillary, but no go n/t

[latebloomer]

70. underwhelmimg

In fact, probably the most boring show yet (and I usually really like it).

But then, I have yet to understand the attraction of Clark. . .

[Clark2008]

77. You will!

Afterall, you're, admittedly, a late bloomer. ;)

He's "scary smart" and it sometimes takes folks a while to see how much power he really has in controlling a situation.

[Quixote1818]

79. Thats because you are a latebloomer nt

[Swamp Rat]

71. Clark/Boxer 2008!!!

Clark/Boxer 2008
Clark/Boxer 2008
Clark/Boxer 2008

:kick:

[Clark2008]

74. Caught this from a friend

"One disappointment in show because at one point Maher made his once-a-week supportive statement about elections in Iraq. Wes said to Maher, Yeah, I want to talk to you about that. Maher responded, Yeah, I know you do.

Unfortunately, the Iraq topic died."

I'm guessing Maher's getting a talking to about now. Ha!

[Swamp Rat]

75. They're in the 'green room' right now.

:spank: Poor Bill Maher won't be able to sit for a week. :D

[Bombtrack]

82. You mean they're sparking up?

Nah wes has never felt the ganj.

[Adelante]

85. I heard from somebody who was there

Wes blasted Maher for an hour and a half. I'm hoping for a followup show so he can do it on air.

[Swamp Rat]

86. Please post something if you hear anything more.

I'd like to hear Maher getting his ass handed to him. He deserves it for ripping off Bill Hicks's material, as I've been informed, while Hicks was in bed dying.

[cidliz2004]

87. Please Please Please let us know what was said and what

happened if you find out! I hope that Wes has given Maher some new TRUE material to talk about on his show. I wonder if we will start hearing - Bush/Iran-Syria jokes.

[Adelante]

88. This was all I heard

"a one half hour very passionate "talk"! It was great!! Wes was calling Maher on all his naivete about Syria and the ME and even gave him the rooster line! Told him to read his article in the Baltimore paper, basically won the argument."


But there were several Clarkies there, so there probably will be more news ahead.

[Adelante]

89. Oh gee

One half hour -- I misread, sorry. :dunce:

[Adelante]

90. A bit more

"everyone said they'd wished Wes would set Maher straight on Iraq and the ME not being a cause celebre of the bush administration....well, let me tell you about Wes at the after party!

He was fighting for Maher to get it! He was so passionate. Started with the Syrian example, how we couldn't give bush credit -- he even told my hubby he thought the bush admin was claiming credit for what was the result of an assassinated leader... He moved on to Palestine and the death of Arafat, I was eavesdropping at this time sandwiched behind Maher and next to Natalie Maines who was keenly interested in Wes's views on Iraq. He and Maher were sparring for what seemed a half hour. We were joined in the listening session by Wes's Communications director who will be blogging with us sometime soon. It got heated, but Wes told him what he needed to hear. Do not fear-- the opportunity was NOT missed to answer that question. Wes was just classy enough to save it for off camera."

[Adelante]

91. Woo Hooo!!!!!!!!

"Natalie Maines came up and said she had to go home but wanted to ask Wes his opinion on Iraq. He ,of course, complied! This poor man never did make it to the restroom, because after Maines and her spouse (?), along comes Bill Maher to join in the discussion and a few other guests start to crowd around and we are now in a small circle around Wes, who has by this time taken off the jacket and is in action.

I was meeting and greeting Gert when the Maher smackdown started, but was distracted when I heard Wes's voice growing progressively louder, just below shout level. He was doing what he said he'd do on the show...straightening Maher out about the Middle East situation. Passionately arguing about Syria, Maher fighting back trying to maintain bush's role in the changes there....Then Clark mentions Arafat's death, then Hariri's assassination...Maher asks some hypothetical question about 100 yrs from now and democracy in the ME and Clark ( messing up his hair in frustration) responds, "---but Bill....he lied to the American people. You can't do that! I don't care where you are in 100 years." Or something like that! He still hasn't been to the restroom. The Maher argument went on easily a half hour."


(Correction: This all turned out to have been in a restaurant, not the green room, for the record.)

[cidliz2004]

92. Do you need a new best friend to hang out with

ESPECIALLY when you are hanging out with Maher.....Are there anymore details on any of the Clark web sites/forum? if so what is the link?


By the way....when ANYBODY asks about 100 years from now I think a good response would be something like -- 100 years from now might be the rapture!, would that be credited to Bush to?

[Adelante]

94. Not me - I only wish, at least when Wes is there

Another Clarkie got lucky with the dinner tickets.

http://www.forClark.com

There are a few people reporting.

[cidliz2004]

93. Do you have a link to his article in the Baltimore...?

[deacon]

78. Yeah! I like that! n/t