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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 02:02 PM
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My mind is definitely open to Clark, but...
Edited on Tue Sep-16-03 02:03 PM by BurtWorm
are expectations for him starting just a little too high? Aren't we setting ourselves up to be let severely down? How much do we really know about him?

That said...I wish him the best. He's definitely going to be turning heads.
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WhoCountsTheVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 02:04 PM
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1. We are pressuring him
If Clark comes out swinging as an economic right-winger, pro-corporate, pro-NAFTA, anti-worker, no one will be denouncing him as loudly as me.

He better hurry though. We're excited now, but it won't last long unless he can deliver.

The main reason we are happy about Clark is that he has by far the best chance of beating Bush.
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DoveTurnedHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 02:07 PM
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2. The Man Does Not Disappoint, IMO
He is an amazing person. Everything I've read about him, I've just liked him more and more. He is also not used to letting people down, he is not used to being #2.

I particularly love this snippet:

<...>

WE LIKE OUR PRESIDENTS to have been soldiers because we like them to have shown courage under fire, which is to say that we do not like them to be cowards. We do not like our presidents to have been generals because we do not like our presidents to have had military ambitions, which is to say that we do not like them to be warmongers. The general, however, takes care to distinguish between the courage required for soldiering and the courage required for being a general, between physical courage and the courage required to make difficult decisions, even at personal expense. It was not so long ago that he had to show both kinds.

In August 1995, the general—three stars, working as J-5 for the Joint Chiefs—went to Bosnia as part of the negotiating team Ambassador Richard Holbrooke had put together to end the civil war that had resulted in the massacre of as many as eight thousand Muslim men and boys at the town of Srebrenica the month before. In Belgrade, Clark had met for the first time Serbian president Slobodan Milosevic, who was sponsoring the Bosnian Serbs. Now the team had to travel to Sarajevo. Told that the airport in Sarajevo was too dangerous to fly into, the team decided to drive and asked Milosevic to guarantee its safety on a road held by Bosnian Serbs. Milosevic did not, and so the team wound up taking a fortified Humvee and an armored personnel carrier on a pitched, narrow, winding mountain road notoriously vulnerable to Serb machine-gun fire. Clark and Holbrooke went in the Humvee, the rest in the APC. In his book, the general describes what happened this way: "At the end of the first week we had a tragic accident on Mount Igman, near Sarajevo. were killed when the French armored personnel carrier in which they were riding broke through the shoulder of the road and tumbled several hundred meters down a steep hillside."

It is not until one reads Holbrooke's book, To End a War, that one finds out that after the APC went off the road, Clark grabbed a rope, anchored it to a tree stump, and rappelled down the mountainside after it, despite the gunfire that the explosion of the APC set off, despite the warnings that the mountainside was heavily mined, despite the rain and the mud, and despite Holbrooke yelling that he couldn't go. It is not until one brings the incident up to the general that one finds out that the burning APC had turned into a kiln, and that Clark stayed with it and aided in the extraction of the bodies; it is not until one meets Wesley Clark that one understands the degree to which he held Milosevic accountable.

<...>

http://www.esquire.com/features/articles/2003/030801_mfe_clark_1.html

DTH
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glarius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 02:07 PM
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3. He seems to me to not beat around the bush...He answers questions
that are asked of him....I like that....Plus the fact that he has said several times that he wants to co-operate with other countries rather than the confrontational attitude of Bush and company
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TioDiego Donating Member (409 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 02:09 PM
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5. The thing I worry most about Clark
is that he will pick Clinton for VP.
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StClone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 02:14 PM
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6. That's not possible
Clinton can not run for President nor take the VP position.
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DemExpat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 02:08 PM
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4. The need is so great.......to beat BUSH.......
he looks like the only real chance to do this. IMO.

DemEx
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 03:44 PM
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7. I welcome Clark to the race, but . . .
there's just something that makes me a little uncomfortable about how this is all unfolding . . . I'd really like to know what role the Clinton's are playing here, and I want to hear more from the military types who seem to have some pretty serious reservations about the general . . . I'll certainly listen to what he has to say and watch how he comports himself, but as of today I still don't have a candidate . . .
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