What's under Yellowstone?

[dave502d]

http://dsc.discovery.com/convergence/supervolcano/index.html?through=campaign|supervolcano|nytimes

[Goathead]

1. A hot spot. n/t

[mike_c]

2. the end of the world as we know it....

Very serious shit.

[knitter4democracy]

66. and I feel fine

Oh wait, you weren't quoting the song? ;)

[PsychoDad]

78. There's an even bigger one...

In the south pacific near indonesia, iirc.... dwarfs yellostone.

[ret5hd]

3. the earth's blowhole...

makes all the other volcanos look like sweat pores.

[barackmyworld]

4. aw man, I was supposed to watch this for earth science

I'd better read up on the website

[jessicazi]

9. It is not on until Sunday night.

nt

[GiovanniC]

22. Isn't It Saturday?

Supervolcano

Yellowstone National Park's geothermal springs could be a time-bomb waiting to explode.

Sat 4/16 8:00 PM 35 DSC
Duration: 3:00
No Rating
Special, Environment, Science and Nature

[loudsue]

58. What's DSC time? And what station is it on??

:woohoo: I can't wait to watch!

[GiovanniC]

59. DSC stands for Discovery channel

[Robeysays]

62. yep i recorded it while ar work ar walgreen's

i plan to watch it tonite.

[Speck Tater]

5. The Indonesian super volcano is even bigger than Yellowstone.

And some say the Christmas earthquake might signal that Toba is becoming active again.

http://www.andaman.org/book/app-r/textr.htm

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

28. >And some say

Got any links on that?

[thedevilinthedetails]

54. biggest Toba was NOT bigger than Yellowstone

Toba big one = 800 Sq KM of ejecta, biggest Yellowstone = 8,000 Sq KM of ejected. Yellowstone was 10x bigger than Toba.

That is, of course, if you can trust scientists making estimates that are open to interpretation

[LiberallyInclined]

71. yellowstone is the only supervolcano that is entirely under land

when it blows- there's more to eject.

[leftofthedial]

6. the largest potential source of geothermal energy

on earth

[UTUSN]

7. A DUer's Dad Is a Geo Prof

and says that a sign of significant activity will be signaled by a horde of graduate students trouping INTO Yellowstone. And that the signal for the really big blow will be the graduate students trouping OUT.

The Art BELL replacement dude went a couple of months last year scaring the heck out of everybody, saying it could blow ANYTIME---within months, or, alternatively, a thousand years.

[FreedomAngel82]

39. Just wondering but

how is that a sign???

[tavalon]

69. Easy

The graduate students will want to study Yellowstone if it looks like it will blow soon but said same students will troop out if it looks like it will blow now because they don't want to be blown sky high.

[Arugula Latte]

44. Or it could be in hundreds of thousands of years

that's still a blink of an eye in volcano time

[jessicazi]

8. Scary...

I am only 3 hours from Yellowstone

[karlrschneider]

10. 3 hours? By ...mule, car, jet plane?

sorry, not meaning to be obtuse but it just irks me to see a reference like this..."3 hours away"...could be anywhere between 5 miles and 1500.
:eyes:

[jessicazi]

12. Sorry

three hours by car. If you click on my profile, it says I live in
Idaho. I guess I think people click on other people's profiles like I do.

I am planning on camping in Yellowstone this summer-I am sooooo excited.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

13. You sure "irk" easy, don't you?

[hootinholler]

17. You're not the only one this irks.

Time does not measure distance, however since I worked in navigation once I should point out that 1 NM = 1 Min of latitude.

Or lives are so compressed that the important thing is no longer how far we are from something, but, rather how long it takes us to get there. I would kinda like to hear someone reply I live one pint of gas from work.


-Hoot

[jessicazi]

19. Again, sorry

I am 189.0 miles from Yellowstone, according to Yahoo. Is that good enough?????????????????????????????????????

[Occulus]

21. Not nearly. n/t

[Charon]

20. Navigation

Believe that one KM = 2,000 yards. One min of Latitude = 60 KM. Has been a long time since I went to sea. Could be wrong.

[Toots]

27. "Time does not measure distance"

That sort of depends on your situation. In the fishing industry distance is most definitely measured by time. Time is of far more importance than distance. You base it on the wind and the tide.

[0007]

52. Is time and space synonymous?

[Strelnikov_]

26. If You Live On The Snake River Plain, It Is Still Fairly Active

Hell's 1/2 acre lava flow (actually 66,000 acre) ~ 3500 yr. old.

http://www.hikeidaho.com/desertbk/uprsnake/duhell/duhellhi.html

Not to mention:

Menan Buttes (just outside of Rexburg where I lived)
South, Middle and North Buttes on the Atomic Prarie
Craters of the Moon.

[jessicazi]

45. I lived in Rexburg

for three years! Haven't met anyone on this website that has lived in the 'Burg or near the 'Burg.

[cynatnite]

53. Lived there for five years! n/t

[Strelnikov_]

55. Lived There For 4 Years, 93-97

Moved back to the Midwest to be close to family.

Nice town. Mormons make pretty good neighbors.

Definitely God's country for sportsmen/women.

[Cleita]

11. Ever been to Yellowstone?

Even if you didn't have the brochure they give you at the gate that tells you about it, you become aware that you are driving around in a huge caldera. The steaming hot springs and various rock formations point to this. It's really a fascinating place. My husband and I once lived there a month traveling from campground to campground so we could really get a good look.

[FreedomAngel82]

14. We went there several years ago

It's really quite a neat place but also scary. I remember when the tour guides told about the volcano underneath I was pretty nervous. Heh heh.
We didn't stay very long of course. When that thing erupts, and it will one day, it will be pure hell. Quite like what happened with Atlantis (if you believe that).

[Cleita]

15. We will have plenty of warning unlike those mythical guys.n/t

[Cleita]

16. If you want to read about the real Atlantis, read about

the island of Thera in the Mediterranean. The volcano island had a tremendous eruption about 3,500 years ago, far worse that the eruption of Krakatoa in historical times. It caused the downfall of a civilization and brought chaos to that region for hundreds of years. If you are an archaelogy buff, it's riveting stuff.

[Swamp Rat]

47. BBC: Echoes of Plato's Atlantis

I saw the documentary on the Discovery Channel... Greek archaeologists are cute.;)

edit: http://db.bbc.co.uk/science/horizon/2001/helike.shtml

*****

Echoes of Plato's Atlantis
By Dr Iain Stewart

The real Atlantis

The modern archaeological search for Helike, and its likely discovery onshore beneath the modern coastal plain, is recounted in BBC Horizon's 'Helike - The Real Atlantis'. However, it is the programme's contention that the real legacy of the disaster was the birth of the Atlantis myth that is likely to have the most resonance with wider audiences.

The destructive force and the vicinity of the great cultural centres of the Greek world, undoubtedly made the earthquake at Helike a momentous scientific event. It led to Aristotle formulating his theory that earthquakes and accompanying seismic sea-waves were the physical product of contrary meteorological conditions rather than supernatural actions, a theory subsequently accepted for more than 1,800 years.

It must have also made had a major impact on Aristotle's contemporary, Plato - born around 427 BC, and in his mid 50s when Helike was lost. The destruction in a single night of the revered city of Poseidon by an earthquake and seismic sea-wave and its disappearance into the sea bear the main hallmarks of Atlantis's sudden demise.

Other hallmarks can be found in the accounts of the two great earthquakes that preceded it, however. With the great Spartan earthquake of 464 BC that ushered in the frenetic wars between Sparta and Athens, and the seismic sea-wave that ripped apart Atalante island in 426 BC under the shadow of these warring superpowers, most of the ingredients for Plato's obliteration of Atlantis are there.

(snip)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/ancient/greeks/atlantis_05.shtml

[tavalon]

70. We will?

Has the science gotten that much better since Mt. St. Helens blew, because the scientists really missed that one!

[shanti]

37. THAT SETTLES IT

i won't be visiting yellowstone park anytime soon! :scared:

[Arugula Latte]

43. Well, that means you'll never visit

because the danger will always be there ...

Scientists would have some pretty good warning signs if there were going to be an eruption.

[shanti]

51. oh well

just one of the many places i'll never see in my lifetime, no biggie. :shrug:

[Maru Kitteh]

63. Yellowstone is an amazing place that should not be missed due to

irrational fears based on one docu-possible-future-drama. It's the most concentrated show of dazzling thermal features on the planet tucked into millions of acres of breathtaking wildlife and scenery. It's amazing. I could live there.









Someday the earth will be hit by a planet-changing asteroid. How are you planning on getting out of that one? You'll have plenty of warning if Yellowstone starts getting cranky. A once in 600,000 year possible event seems like a really weak reason to skip seeing one of Americas last great wild places.

[tavalon]

72. Then you will miss something

amazing, breathtaking, awe inspiring. It's well worth the risk.

[XOKCowboy]

76. It is one of the most incredible places on earth...

There are things in Yellowstone that you can't see anywhere else. We're lucky to have it in the US and if you haven't gone there you are depriving yourself.

For those who are scared, don't worry. If it ever blows we'll all be annihilated or at the least the US won't be the same so go now while you can. Everyone needs to see Yellowstone at least once in their lifetime.

[RedCappedBandit]

18. Excellent

A few days ago I was beginning to wonder if I missed the show.. looking forward to seeing it :D

[GiovanniC]

23. Just Set My TiVo

n/t

[txaslftist]

24. A Republican think-tank...

that regularly spews forth hot air and vitriol...

[JawJaw]

25. MUST SEE

This doc/drama was on BBC few weeks ago - FAN-TASTIC!

[Blue Belle]

29. Jimmy Hoffa...

:+

[Robeysays]

61. hahahahaha n/t

[RedCloud]

30. Already saw Super volcano

It is greatly underplayed.

When the last super volcano went ballistic about 65,000 years ago, most of humanity went with it. Only 24 viable lines of humanity (i.e. 24 mothers of all!) survive to this day. Those folks back then knew how to eke out an existence. today we would look for our grocery store and die!

I believe our death totals could be several billion with maybe only a few hundred survivors.

Yellowstone looks to be much bigger than the last super volcano.

If our "leaders" think they can hide out in underground shelters for years until it blows over, maybe we should just weld their doors shut and dynamite the entrance. Because they will sentence us to death. We hear nothing now about near Earth collisions until after the fact. Our fearless leaders are no doubt right next to their bunkers.

[shanti]

34. cheney has a bunker

at his own house, you know, built just recently...and i'm sure he's not alone. i feel like they know something we don't know and they don't plan to tell "us".

[HeeBGBz]

56. I've said that several times

Asteroid, Supervolcano, whatever. It's like they are stealing everything the can and they don't care how it looks because after they're done, the rest of us peons will be dead or deep fried.

[shanti]

57. EXACTLY!!!!!

finally, someone who understands this like i do! :applause:

[LiberallyInclined]

73. something else to understand-

if yellowstone "blows", having a bunker isn't going to save anyone- cheney included.

[tavalon]

74. But the ironic thing

is that they won't survive either. And, contrary to the current fundie belief, the one who dies with the most toys does not, in fact, win.

[Liberty Belle]

67. Now THAT's a scary thought.

[XemaSab]

49. When Yellowstone blows

it'll sure as hell corrupt some precious bodily fluids.

Better run to the bunker, and take some wimmins with you.

[Spazito]

31. This was excellent and scary as hell!

I had heard that Yellowstone was a worry but, until watching this, I never really understood how big a worry it can be. Being a docudrama, one needs to be cautious but the basic facts were scary enough.

[Mutley]

32. scary...

:scared: when i was a kid i used to have a recurring nightmare about a volcano forming overnight in my backyard... don't ask me where it came from.. the last time i had that dream was about four years ago.

[XemaSab]

48. That happened to a dude in Mexico

one morning he went out to his corn field and there was a volcano out there!

[WilliamPitt]

33. A boiling cauldron of fear

that apparently worked.

[lonestarnot]

35. Wow! This is way cool! Thanks!

[mtnsnake]

36. This is what will SOON be under Yellowstone & all our other National Parks

The oil drills of Chimpy's buddies. It's just a matter of time before Yellowstone will be on the list.
http://www.commondreams.org/news2004/1117-10.htm

[SemperEadem]

38. Mammoth is a huge volcano, also

I remember editing a series piece on Mammoth Mountain, CA about 7-8 years ago. A long, long time ago, it blew its lid and reportedly, rocks landed as far away as Iowa. The caldera is rising as a measurable rate every year.

In addition to the thermal pools, paint pots and geysers, they've got subterrainian co2 vents that are killing off the forests up there because the trees can't process the large amounts of carbon dioxide through its roots.

[kwassa]

40. I've sat in those Yellowstone thermal creeks, and skied Mammoth

There are many thermal features in the back country of Yellowstone, and we skinny-dipped in one creek ( you can choose how hot by how far up or down the creek you go) after getting caught on a mountain top in a thunderstorm with snow coming down. In July. Damn near had hypothermia.

I am not familiar with the thermal features around Mammoth, though I've skied there a bunch, and backpacked up through the mountains around there.

[Maru Kitteh]

65. Have you read the book "Death in Yellowstone"?

Lots of folks have gotten themselves boiled alive in those thermals. Your skin falls off your body in sheets. You don't get to die quickly, and you don't get to pass out from the pain either. It's close to the top of my top 10 ways that would really SUCK to die. I'm a big baby about tiny burns like I get from steamed rice once in a while.

[kwassa]

77. well, we didn't jump in the geyser itself ....

we did the runoff streams considerably down the way.

Most people that die the way you are talking about fall into the hotpools themselves.

[countryjake]

41. I liked the part where Mexico closed its border!

And the reporter said that the masses of U.S. citizens being stopped along the border were hungry & thirsty, homeless, & without money but armed Mexican authorities were denying them entry.


Nice way to slip in that point of what people will do when their country has been destroyed!

[Arugula Latte]

42. And the one guy wanted to "Kick some ass!"

to make those Mexkins let us in. That's the 'Murkin way.

[Corgigal]

46. I liked the idea of nature having the last call

We humans are so cute sometimes. We really think we will destroy the planet but the planet has it's own way of resetting the clock.
Just makes me enjoy the beauty we have right now.

If you can watch this flick. It was much better then I thought it would be and now I know why, the BBC produced it.

[tavalon]

75. Yep, Gaia will win

She's got eons over us.

[B Calm]

50. There is oil under Yellowstone. Time to tear up this National Park

for the good of big oil.

[Dave Reynolds]

60. So I must surmise the answer to your questions is

most definitely NOT "Mrs. Yellowstone".

[Deja Q]

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[Deja Q]

64. What a load of bunk. Chris Rock predicted a tornado hitting a sewage plant

and it hasn't happened yet either. And it's only a matter of time before that happens too. :scared: :sarcasm: