Chimp at 44 % approval Congress 37 %--Time for torches and pitchforks?

[davsand]

OK--the asswipe is sinking like a rock in the polls and Congress is looking mighty sick too.

(link here: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A36353-2005Apr8.html)

This latest AP poll makes it pretty clear that people are not happy and the only "Man Date" the GOP had was KKKarl and Gannon.

WHEN do we see the torches and the pitchforks come out? How much lower do they need to sink before it hits critical mass and the people get mad enough to do something about it?

Discuss.


Laura

[impeachthescoundrel]

1. I love reading about this

But 44% seems awfully generous to me.

[davsand]

5. 54 percent disapproving is the telling one.

If people have decided they are unhappy that is very telling. There are not many of the "I dunno" crowd left out there, and THAT should scare the GOP to death. The NEGATIVES are higher than the positives. That is huge.

Besides, this is an AP poll and you know it will be skewed to produce high numbers.


Laura

[Art_from_Ark]

7. There's always the 40% "idiot factor" to take into account

In other words, chimp won't slide below his solid base of 40% die-hard support

[davsand]

10. When they are our 40% they are just party loyalists.

I'm not being snarky, but there is certain percentage on either side that will stick to it to the bitter end. Allowing for THAT, he's running out of people to piss off.

FWIW, I refer to those party loyalists as "ham sandwich voters." they would vote a ham sandwich if it had the right letter after its name on a ballot.


Laura

[Art_from_Ark]

13. This goes beyond supporting a politician who's down on the mat

It's one thing to support to the bitter end someone like Condit, who may have been set up

It's quite another to support to the bitter end someone who seems hell-bent on destroying the fabric of the country

[xchrom]

2. i have faith in the left -- their passion for doing the hard work.

everyone else?
not so much.

disapproval for this junta we're living under does not restore my faith in my fellow citizens.
that has been considerably eroded -- and is the real source of our troubles.

[Renew Deal]

3. Time for a terra alert.

:hide:

[SammyWinstonJack]

9. Or another MIHOP?

:scared: :hide:

[onehandle]

4. I'm ready to light up and go.

[KansDem]

6. Relax! Together that makes 81 %

And if the Supreme Court polls at 19 %, then we have a government with a 100% approval rating!

How often has that happened?

[ProfessorGAC]

12. LOL!

That's very good! Thanks for the chuckle.
The Professor

[Arkana]

8. If Chimpy is sick, Congress is dying!

37%????? Wow!

[indepat]

11. The real story here is that 44% approve: very telling of we the people

[Javaman]

14. I bet, at the current trend, he will be below 40% by end of year...

[lateo]

15. Better watch it or the anti-Revolution police will be coming...

Any talk like this is usually greated by a lot of moronic hand wringing.

[davsand]

16. Talk of torches and pitchforks is bad?

I guess it would be if YOU are they guy they all came to see. From the perspective of the guys WITH the torches and pitchforks it sounds like rather a rewarding event...

:evilgrin:

You are correct, however, to be cautious about saying much in public that could ever be seen as a comment negative to the asswipe and his regime. I figure I'm probably on the way to Gitmo for a couple of other things like my Labor activities and my outspoken criticism of local hospitals' lack of charity care for the poor.

Asking how much lower the polls can go on an internet forum pales in comparison...


Laura

So, would cotton be my best fabric bet for Gitmo this time of year? Will it rot in high humidity?

[Lone Pawn]

18. You're not going to gitmo, but if you were,

you wouldn't be able to exactly choose what you wear.

[davsand]

19. Given the way they feel about labor I dunno about that.

They have already established that Union membership is a threat to national security--just ask the AFSCME local that was removed as "security threat" from Justice Department.

It isn't too much of a mind leap to take THAT and look at the section of the Patriot Act that lets them deport natural born citizens if they are determined to be a threat to national security, and get just a bit concerned.

Know what, I joke about it, but it is a lot like whistling in a graveyard--ya know?


Laura

[lateo]

21. I was refering to...

Some people at DU who poo poo the idea of dissolving our government.

[Lone Pawn]

17. Not anytime soon, I'm afraid.

in order for there to be a revolution, several factors need to exist. You need a disaffected populace--those who no longer swear fealty to the government--greater than 25%. Right now, that probably is in the high single-digits. You need the people at large to believe that there are no other recourses--when in a four-year period, every House member must run twice and the President and two-thirds of the Senate must run once, the desperation required for revolution simply does not exist.

Finally, people's individual lives must be affected negatively in a great manner. We're talking 20% unemployment, shrinking economy, national turmoil--right now the economy is fundamentally unstable, but at the same time things aren't particularly bad for the average American. Gas is sorta expensive, but still nowhere near what Europe pays. Things aren't bad enough, nor will they be any time soon.

But even if there was a revolution, there's no hope of success. Strong governments do not fall to revolution. They simply do not. No way, no how. Last major revolt against a government that was weaker than ours, but still strong?



Didn't go so well, did it?

[JackD76]

20. Hate To Break It To All of You

The democrats are even more unpopular then the republicans at this time. I saw a poll last week that said that the republicans in congress had an approval of 38% and the dems had 37%. Remember, the dems can't profit on the screw ups of the republicans alone.

[Quixote1818]

23. I do know the public wanted the Dem's to be an opposition party

I don't think they are living up to that. We have a bunch of pussy's in our party. Perhaps that is why the Dem's approval rating is down with the Republicans. They won't stand up to Dick Head enough.

[davsand]

30. JackD76, Have you got a cite for that polling data?

I've not seen or heard about that--I'd like to see it.

I do think that the feeling now is anti-incumbent rather than directed at any specific party. Recently, here in Illinois, we had a round of municipal elections. Lots of City Council, Mayoral and referendums in these elections.

There were a LARGE number of Mayors who were voted out of office. I realize that is anecdotal, but what I see happening is a lot of people are building up anger--the "misery scale" as I call it, is going higher every day. People are generally unhappy with government as a whole--starting locally and going all the way up to the White House.

I think this next election will be a BAD time to be an incumbent--for either party...

Just my two cents.


Laura

[deadparrot]

22. He doesn't care.

Not anymore. He's got his godforsaken man date, and he doesn't have to worry about reselection.

I'm cynical.:shrug:

[Deja Q]

24. 37% for congress? The pitchforks will come out, but probably not before

the new prisons come out...

[0007]

26. Maybe those new fourteen military insulations in Iraq are

for us?

[bush_is_wacko]

25. Not quite, but it is certainly getting closer!

I think the torches an pitchforks will come closer to the 2006 election cycle but that is fast approaching, so it is likely things are about to heat up big time. I'd venture to say bu$h's numbers need to be in the 30% range before an impeachment movement can really gain steam enough to make some of these thugs back the hell off and decide their careers ARE indeed at stake over their support for him and his ilk!

[mtnsnake]

27. I'll bet every repuke who now disapproves of him would still vote for him

if the election were held again today. That's how ignorant they are.

[lovuian]

28. Americans are going to have to hurt just a wee bit more

before the pitchforks but we are moving much more closer!!!

[Cleita]

29. Too bad we can't call a special election like some countries

do, when their leadership sinks to a certain low in popularity.