Revelation regarding Clinton being photographed a lot with bushes

[Bouncy Ball]

I just realized, as gross as it looks to us to see Clinton with poppy and Chimpy McCokespoon, THINK about how it feels for the bushbots.

I just looked at this picture and thought "Hell, that must bug the SHIT out of bushbots! Look at Clinton just having a good ol' time!"



So for as much as it bugs us, it's gotta bug them 10,000 times more. I almost wonder if Clinton does it on purpose! BWA!!!!

:rofl:

[iconoclastNYC]

1. I don't trust the Clintons

Just say no to political dynasties.

[Ironpost]

14. I don't trust someone who doesn't trust the Clintons

what the hell did they do to you, go ahead and tell me they lied to you or something asinine like that. geeeeeze

[theboss]

17. Watch Hillary run to the right on immigration in '08

Then you will know why the Clintons are to be respected but not trusted.

[Ironpost]

22. Alright what did they do to you except try to give you a better

world in which to live. You Clinton haters, Man o' man talk about people shooting themselves in the foot. Do you see yourself here?

[theboss]

31. I'm quite fond of Clinton

I worked for him in '92. I voted for him twice. I would defend him to the end on the Monica nonsense.

But, he was hardly FDR. Between NAFTA, welfare reform, the Telecommunications Act, GATT, MFN for China, etc, it was a pretty good era for the Heritage Foundation on policy.

And then there is the not so small matter of losing both the House and Senate on his watch.

The question is was Clinton the reason for the end of The New Deal Coalition or was he just the dying gasp of it.

[Ironpost]

39. Because the demos was listening to the repukes,

All the good, and there are many, things he accomplished was without a single repukes help. Hell he was dogged for 8 years man. Do you by any chance remember what bob dole said upon hearing that Clinton won in '92, something along the lines, he won't get nothing past me or us, we will investigate him till hell won't have it. I don't remember it word for word but I remember the gist of it. My apologies to you.

[Old and In the Way]

43. People seem to forget that Clinton had a Republican Congress from

94 on. In spite of that, he kept our economy growing while the rest of the world started seeing their SOL improve. Say what you will about NAFTA, Clinton understood that the world is better and safer when everyone's boat gets floated. If Bush had followed on with Clinton's total economic program and maybe used the federal government to reinvest in new energy strategies for the future, we wouldn't be tearing down Clinton now. I think this is part of the broad Republican agenda....make our domestic economy so bad that we start thinking like Republicans. Nice.

[theboss]

44. And I blame him for losing Congress in '94

It was pretty much a direct result of HillaryCare that we lost both the House and Senate for the first time in generations.

[Old and In the Way]

46. You blame him for that?????

We wouldn't have a healthcare crisis today if that legislation had passed. I blame the Republicans for not supporting it. The fact that you choose to define it by the RW label "Hillarycare" tells me where you are coming from.

[theboss]

47. It was shorthand, and yes I blame him

Clinton failed to sell his healthcare package. Then he promised to veto any program lacking full coverage. Then had his bluff called. So, not only was he able to defined as a socialist but a wimp too.

You suffer the most disastrous mid-term elections of any President in history, you need some of the blame.

His recovery to that defeat was masterful but it saved himself without having any coattails for the rest of the party.

[Old and In the Way]

50. OK, so it was his fault that that the Republicans gave the American people

the finger on healthcare....and the corporate media made sure that they trashed it too.

Yeah, I get it.

[theboss]

52. Yep....Pretty much

He campaigned on the issue, put the then-radioactively polarizing Hillary in charge of it, and it bombed like a Joel Schumacher movie.

If you make something your centerpiece issue and then blow it completely, you suffer the consequences.

[M_Demo_M]

66. Clinton's first two years were sloppy

HOWEVER...
There was no sales job President Clinton could have done to pass
Health Care. The Republican's flagged opposition to Health Care
early on as a key strategy to severely weakening President Clinton.
The Republicans were unified and very well disciplined. There
plan is well documented and has in fact recently been copied by
the Democrats for their opposition to Bush's Social Security proposal.

There was no chance to health care passing!!

It's unfortunate that there are so many here at DU that buy the propaganda
that it's demise rests completely on Bill Clinton's shoulders.
It really speaks to the power of the Rights' media organization.

[barb162]

71. wow you make some great points here. I miss him so much

in so many ways and I hated what they tried to do on the impeachment and all those constant GOP investigations for 8 years that never amounted to any, ANY, wrongdoing. I think he was the dying gasp...he could go no further left, he could stay only centrist as the GOP got all over him every time he tried to move left in the slightest way. For example, national health care... the GOP got all over him and Hillary just as they were starting to investigate it. The country was turning right on his watch just as it was for Reagan and Bush 1. It was a right- turning that had already been going on for years but people weren't paying attention. I think this right turning of the American public has been going on for at least 20 years and started with the Johnson civil rights legislation. A lot of people could not abide it and turned right and the Dems lost their traditional coalitions. I proudly voted for and defended him on that Monica thing. I miss Big Dawg.

[Adenoid_Hynkel]

63. corporate globalization and media deregulation gae us a better world?

it set the stage for the bush trainwreck.

[Joe the Revelator]

28. Very Well Said Ironpost

I agreee 99%.

[iconoclastNYC]

32. Bill moved the party to the right

And alienated the activist base and screwed over Gore who should have had a very easy hand off of power.

If they come out as a populist economic progressive instead of promoting more of the same triangulating move to the right DLC poison i'll support them.

And "wife of an ex president" isn't the proper job qualification for the highest office in in the land anymore than "son of an ex president" is.

[Ironpost]

41. No, Gore's holier than thou attitude is what happened to him.

Hell, he was starting to believe the repukes himself. He's the one who turned his back not Bill.

[foreigncorrespondent]

54. Do you really want...

...gay people to begin answering your question about what did they ever do to us? If so, I am sure one of my many gay DU brothers or sisters will do it for me, because I gotta head out the door for work.

[republicansareevil]

20. I think Clinton truly believes in unity rather than divisiveness.

He stands his ground in the political arena, but I think he truly desires to see a united country. Keep in mind that he is a Rhodes Scholar and there is a strong humanistic angle to that; it's not just intellectual.

All I know is, * looks even worse standing next to Clinton than he does on his own.


Oops. Posted this in the wrong place, but oh well.

[Deja Q]

29. Clinton was the best president the republicans ever had.

[linazelle]

51. Neither do Rush, Hannity or the VWRC....an their sheeple n/t

[Adenoid_Hynkel]

62. NAFTA, GATT, 96TELCOMM, WTO, MFN, DOMA, etc

the man is not on our side-and don't give me that you're too liberal crap. the way he fucked us in the ass with those laws showed he lacks a conscience

bill's a self-serving yuppie asshole and his wife is just as bad. give me a real democratic woman, like mikulski or boxer over that DLC shill any day

[JackRiddler]

64. And why should you trust the Clintons?

The real question is, how can you still construct excuses for them when you see them dancing to legitimate the Bush mob?

Around these parts denial runs deep about the Clintons, who are little more than your average politicians peddling whatever satisfies their own narcissistic needs.

The initiator of this thread apparently needs to construct a fable of some unfathomable subtext to quiet down the cognitive dissonance caused by seeing Bush and Clinton side by side on a near-daily basis.

Underlying this error, I venture to guess, is an acceptance of the defintions of left/right, liberal/conservative, Democrat/Republican, Clinton/Bush as these sets are defined for us in the mainstream discourse - as though truly in opposition to each other, rather than actually being (in effect) two brands of the same scam.

Assuredly there are differences between the brands, yet they ultimately offer a narrow range of acceptable opinion to sustain the status quo.

Why is Clinton appearing with Bush? An intellectual can split hairs and construct theories about its mysterious meaning. Everyone else can SEE the two of them buddy-buddy on the TV, and the surface of it, whatever the subtext, speaks volumes. If they project buddy-buddy, they certainly know how this appears to Americans: as though they ARE buddy-buddy. And that is the conclusion of any reasonable person who studies the actual history.

Clinton came in on a wave that rejected Bush in 1992, but did little to overturn or change course away from what 12 years of Bush/Reagan had wrought.

It was a necessity, after those 12 years of the hard approach, that a softer approach be allowed. The people needed fattening, the depleted treasury had to be refilled for the next round of plunder.

As perpetrators of crimes against humanity and war crimes on an epic scale, the Bush 41/oldtime CIA "Enterprise" crew (who are also the Bush 43 crew) could never afford to allow someone to take power who might call them on those crimes. Clinton would have never survived to be President, if he had not been safe for them. He was never going to rock the real boat, just pretend.

Look up Mena, Arkansas - a major transport point in the 1980s for the CIA's Contra supply and the cocaine pipeline run by Barry Seal. Gov. Clinton let this happen within his jurisdiction.* That proved he was safe. And he remained safe throughout his terms. (*NOTE: I'm not accusing him of anything worse than letting it happen - the "make it happen" perpetrators in this case were "the Enterprise" Iran/Contra crew under Bush 41 and Oliver North. Laughably, the right wing is so ensconced in the myth of their own power that in the 1990s some of them wanted to blame Mena on Clinton, apparently blind to where the Mena trail inevitably leads. But hey, they often DO succeed in loudly blaming others for their own crimes, don't they? Witness 9/11.)

I don't know Clinton's mind. He might be a tool, he might think he's sneaky to sidle up next to our Mussolini Sr. and Jr., or perhaps the Bush has his balls in a vice. It doesn't matter, because the surface says it all: he dances with the wolves.

I brought this issue up ages ago in a thread titled, "Why didn't Clinton nail Bush the first time?" (meaning, 1993).

http://www.democraticunderground.com/cgi-bin/duforum/duboard.cgi?az=show_thread&om=39521&forum=DCForumID60

For some bizarre reason, the first 35 responses promptly hijacked it into an irrelevant game of nuke/counter-nuke about Nader and Gore and the 2000 election. Which happens a lot around these parts.

At any rate, I then essayed a reformulation that still holds up, which I shall copy and paste here.

Why is Clinton running around with Papa Bush? Because that's where he was heading, from the very beginning. Full membership in the Club. He earned his stripes. He may not have even known it early on, but this is is what he WAS, all along.

I'm not into simplistic "New World Order" theory, but when I see these guys together in the tsunami aid ads, I figure if you play the soundtrack backwards, this is what you will hear: "Hello. We ARE the New World Order. This is good. Do not be alarmed. Do not adjust the vertical. Keep watching..."

Notes from Feb 21-03-03:

We are talking about 1992. Remember?

Clinton comes in strong against a disgraced Bush, who has a mountainous pile of real skeletons to answer for. The ghosts of many dead, from Central America to the Middle East to Middle America, are crying out for justice, and a number of investigations into Bush malfeasance are running.

Clinton may not be able to simply release the Reagan-Bush files ((to his credit he did get the Presidential Records Act revision of 1997 forcing White House files to be released 12 years after the end of a term)) but as president, Clinton has the means to expedite existing investigations, start new investigations, tweak and leak to selected journalists.

Instead he backs off the whole Bush crime complex, and allows many of its lower-level operators (Henry Hyde, for example) to play a diverting game of "Screw the Clintons" for the next eight years.

---

The first Bush admin. was heavily criminal. In the case of the S&L scams, we are talking about fraud reaching into hundreds of billions of dollars, which American taxpayers are still covering today. This is a pocketbook issue, is it not? Even the most economically-minded and morally deranged of "middle Americans" can understand its significance.

Among those heavily involved in S&L fraud were the Baby Bush brothers, Bush sponsors in Texas (the Mischer cronies), and all manner of CIA and mob connects. The convoluted money trails extended into the Iran-Contra and BCCI complex. It was pump and dump on a grand scale. Brokered deposits gathered by mob and CIA-connected players would be placed with small banks owned by friends-of-friends. They in turn would lend heavily to yet other players in the scam, who would set up mailbox real-estate deals and later default. The money disappears into some off-shore hole. When a bank finally fails, the lost deposits are paid off by the government insurance plan. Finally, other "respectable" entities connected to the same milieu move in to snap up the failed bank and its cheap assets - and legally destroy the records of the transactions! The fraud, and the resulting concentration of wealth in ever fewer hands, is complete.

This was the biggest financial scam in American history. It was made possible only by the Reagan banking deregulation of 1982. And at the center of this unending web of deals was the person and coterie of George Herbert Walker Bush.

There was enough paper trail left to follow, as investigative reporters have shown. Get yourself a copy of the excellent Pete Brewton: "The Mafia, CIA and George Bush," a 1992 book that was successfully shut out of the media. Alas, there was only one edition.

In a democratic republic with any intelligence, Brewton's book would have been entitled: "Report of the U.S. Government Independent Commission on Banking Fraud Under the Bush and Reagan Administrations."

Why didn't Clinton put the ammo in that book to use? Since when is it liberal and dignified to let thieves escape?

Or is he just another one of them?

---

Don't you dare blame the media for this! They are what they are in part because of Democratic silence and spinelessness in the face of the continuous ideological warfare waged on "liberals" for the last 30 years.

By consistently advocating seemingly "unpopular" positions, true leaders have the power to ultimately get the media to cover their side of the story. They only have to show persistence and courage. This is exactly what the right-wing has done (unopposed) for decades, in part producing the sorry state of the media that we have today.

---

The alternative to right-wing lies, some people here seem to think, consists in Democratic silence about discomforting realities, which amounts to accepting the right-wing definitions of those realities.

That's the polite, caring, liberal way, is it? Makes us feel better than them, even as they roll us over with bulldozers, eh?

I can hardly believe how naive some of you seem to be! Nailing Bush would not have been "vengeance," or "kicking them when they are down." We are talking about elementary justice, without which the rule of law is null and void. We are talking about outright gangsters in charge of the State!

If crime pays, gangsters will keep committing it. The only way to stop it is to expose and prosecute them.

If Americans are ignorant of their own history, they will consistently get nailed by the same scams, over and over. As is happening right now, on an even larger scale than under Bush-Reagan I, II and III.

Is that so hard to grasp?

---

Remember when Clinton apologized to Guatemala? What hypocrisy! Why didn't he see to it that those responsible for financing and arming the Guatemalan death squads of the 1980s were exposed?

I'm barely scratching the surface here!

---

Even four years of a Clinton revealing the underbelly of the previous Bush regimes, followed by an election loss in 1996, would have prevented the much worse disaster we have today. Potentially, it could have spelled the end of the Republican Party. And what's wrong with that? The Libertarians, or someone else, would rise to take their place.

And on the left something else could arise too.

Letting Bush 41 & Co. get away with their crimes set up the present situation. How can you say you hate Bush 41, compare him to the Fourth Reich, and yet not see that he would have never been president (again) if just a fraction of his father's mob had been exposed?

So, who's going to take this question seriously? Even if you thought that Clinton's reluctance to expose the Bush mob was understandable at the time, can you change your mind now, when we can see the results?

[concord]

70. "two brands of the same scam"

Yup. I finally woke up to this when Clinton came out in favor of the Iraq invasion.

When he told Democrats to "stop their whining" after the election, I was surprised to see so many still supporting him.

Thank you for your informative post. I hadn't thought about the free ride he gave his predecessor(s).

[JackRiddler]

72. Thanks back at you.

Money is the only power-that-be in this country.

In the present configuration of the system, big money requires the war industry and war for resources as conditions of its growth and reproduction.

Translated to the micro-level, no individual politician who questions that is going to be allowed to be president.

Being compromised is a pre-condition for becoming president.

Sad that so many intelligent people with progressive politics fall for charismatic individuals who exude a different vibe but are entirely subscribed to the game.

[concord]

73. "In the present configuration of the system"

and "no individual politician who questions" are key.

I have been teetering on the edge between sitting back and waiting for this process to take its course and staying out of the way of the collapse or actively trying to bring about a more gentle change. The fact that I'm here and participating indicates my desire to help ... IF it's possible to make a difference.

What little I know about such things in history shows that the kind of change that would "reconfigure" the system would have to be big, timely and probably violent. However, Howard Zinn does make a good case for peaceful change through tireless mobilization over a long term (probably decades in this case).

Thoughts?

[hippiechick]

2. Yeah, the weenie in the middle DOES look perturbed ...

The gents on either end seem to be ok with present company, however.

Maybe Bill's stepping in to be the "son" Poppy never had as a way to truly get Georgie's goat ... we all know Georgie's issues w/ trying unsuccessfully to get Poppy's approval all these years ....


:evilgrin:

[MissB]

3. I'd never looked at it that way

Bwahahaha. Thank you.

[Bouncy Ball]

4. I never had, either, that's why I enjoyed realizing it so much.

I mean, bushbots think Clinton is the devil incarnate. And there he is just having a jolly good time with poppy and the chimp. Probably burns them the HELL up, becuase they probably think poppy and the chimp should be totally snubbing Clinton!

:rofl:

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[democracyindanger]

7. Good god--you're peddling the "Clinton flew coke out of Mena" garbage?

What a pile of stinking crap. He killed Vince Foster and impregnated a crack addict, too.

[RBHam]

15. I just said do a google...

Seperate the wheat from the chaff...was Clinton compromised? psy-opped? There's a lot of weird shit that went on. Tyson CEO Jackson Stephens funding Clinton, his connection to BCCI and teh Bush Crime Family...

Use your own discretion.

[democracyindanger]

42. Do a google of "greys," "crop circles" and "anal probes"

There's a lot of weird shit going on there, too. It's on the internet, so it must be true.

[ashmanonar]

48. al martin has a fair view on this...

i know i've posted this link before, but i will continue to: because from what i can see, it details a lot of things that have happened in this country starting with reagan.

linky

[MrModerate]

8. What's that crinkling sound I hear?

Could it be tinfoil?

[Bouncy Ball]

10. No thanks.

[Name removed]

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[BrklynLiberal]

6. To make matters worse, Poppy probably thinks Clinton is the son he never

had.....
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[Bouncy Ball]

9. WHICH just serves to piss off bush the lesser EVEN more.

I'm loving it. I think I'd like Clinton to appear with them, tall, smiling and magnanimous, much more often.

[oldtime dfl_er]

13. I also kind of like the idea of the big dog looking over shrub's shoulder

it's almost like he's spying on the shrub. heh heh

www.cafepress.com/blackoutbush

[demnan]

11. I'm sure Clinton does it on purpose

I don't for a minute buy the crap that he likes the Bushes.

[Sanity Claws]

12. I was thinking along similar lines

What if Daddy Bush talks to Baby Bush and mentions, "well, Bill thinks.." or "Bill and I were talking about that and we think..." Can you imagine the BushBaby's response? It would burn him to know his Daddy and Bill were having substantive talks and getting along just fine. Sounds like fine revenge to me.

[Tactical Progressive]

21. Clinton charms everybody.

Everybody.

My guess is that the combination of that and his deference to, and I believe true respect for, George Bush Sr, has made both the Bushes realize that Clinton isn't a bad guy at all. And I'm further presuming that that makes them both feel just a little bit like shitheels for the hatred that I don't doubt has been in their heads, just like every right-winger, about their targets of unearned vilification.

And I don't believe Clinton is faking it either. I'm not cynical about Clinton like some here. To me that's just sipping some of the 'Clinton is dishonest' bullshit that the media pedaled for eight years.

[Lisa]

49. I wouldn't be surprised if George W. becomes jealous ...

During the 2000 campaign, he admitted that his father had once said complimentary things about Al Gore. (Always being a bit suspicious of Dubya's stories, I looked up some background -- Gore was in Congress 1976-85 and the Senate from then until 1993. This was after GHWB's time in Congress, but he was CIA Director in 1976-77, VP from 1981-89, and then President -- so their paths would probably have crossed a number of times.)

Anyway, George W. said something along the lines of "My father's idea of the perfect son was Al Gore", and added that he wasn't pleased about that. If GHWB did, even once, tell his son that he ought to be more like Al -- my bet is that George W. would have remembered it (he really knows how to hold a grudge). And I don't think that he was making up the part about how he felt -- we know how defensive he can get.

Just imagine if GHWB starts heaping praise on Clinton! He just might -- I've heard reports that George W. has been rubbing the "one-term president" thing in his dad's face (e.g. putting his feet up on his parents' coffee table during visits and refusing to remove them). Junior is very competitive with his dad (it wouldn't surprise me if outdoing him with that second term was more important than any sense of legacy or responsibility!)

And saying nice things about Clinton is one way in which Poppy could tweak his son. (What's he going to do about it -- tell them that the tsunami project is off, and they're to stop hanging out with each other?)

[kliljedahl]

53. Yeah, it's probably irritating to him

that Poppy actually was elected to his one term, not appointed.


http://www.kliljedahl.net

[cry baby]

16. When Clinton is in the room, nobody pays attention to *.

I bet that p*sses Chimpy McCokespoon off big time.

Thanks to Bouncy Ball for the name "Chimpy McCokespoon", it's my fav name for him.

[Bouncy Ball]

23. Hey I stole it from whoever writes the Top 10 Conservative Idiots

column every Monday!

[WinterStorm]

55. "Chimpy McCokespoon"

Someone coined the name "Chimpy McCokespoon" a long time ago. You can do a search in the archives and find out who came up with it. It's not new ;)

[WI_DEM]

18. Of the three, which one looks like he is president?

Bill, of course.

[AlCzervik]

19. The irony of Bush needing Clinton for cover is hilarious

wan't it chimpoleon who used to say in 99 and 2000 that he "Wll bring honor and dignity back to the Whitehouse" as a direct slap at clinton.

[Upfront]

24. It Bugs me!

am a no holds barred Democrat, who thinks Dean is the best I have seen sense Truman. I hate Bush, and Clinton hanging around with him sucks!

[Bouncy Ball]

25. Believe me, it pisses off freepers and bushbots

WAYYYYY MORE!!!

And for that, to me, it's worth it!

I think Clinton should hug Chimpy McCokespoon for like a really long time on live TV and rub all his Clintonness on him and make all the freeper's heads explode!

[alfredo]

26. The picture shows bush as tall as Clinton. GW must be standing

on his tippy toes.

[WinterStorm]

56. Lifts n/t

[alfredo]

57. I thought that too. N/T

[WinterStorm]

61. Stilts?

[alfredo]

68. If he can't ride a Segway,

stilts are definitely out.

[catzies]

27. I don't see it that way. I think they know they're hated, and they hope

some of the genuine affection Americans have for Clinton rubs off on them by THEIR association with HIM.

TWISI, we do have 2 Presidents in America -- ours, and theirs. I think they use Clinton to speak to us, because they know we're not listening to them when they speak, but we'll listen to Bill.

[Catherine Vincent]

33. That's vintage Clinton. You can't help but to like him.

Didn't Newty say something like he'd plan to meet with Clinton to debate over a certain bill or something but when the time came and they'd meet, Clinton would get to talking and Newt would just melt instantly?

All these Clinton haters out there (on the repuke side) would say all these things about him but if they'd ever meet him, they'd change their tune. I think that's what the deal is with the Bushes.

[Balbus]

35. He's just a likeable person,

No matter how your opinions may differ from his. Very charismatic person. And genuine I honestly believe. I'm sure there's a lot of politician in him but he likes people and likes to be liked in return I think. (if that makes sense)

[Catherine Vincent]

36. "..he likes people and likes to be liked in return.."

Very true. And Monica picked up on that.;-)

[DerekG]

65. That's what they said about Ted Bundy

n/t

[MadHound]

34. Why should a group of corporate whores be uncomfortable with each other?

After all, they serve/served the same corporate masters.

[Malva Zebrina]

37. Clinton really does not look well

I saw this picture this morning

and it occured to me how Clinton stood out from ALL the rest including the half smirking doofus. It may have been just luck that he got to be in the middle of the picture because the idiot Bush "led" the line into the Pope viewing area and ended up being far to the left of the line of the photographer, who was trying to get the body of the Pope in the foreground,--- but look at dopey Bush, Laura's horror sad face, and Poppy's gawking and then, with his white hair emphasizing his presence, there is Bill Clinton engaged and aware of what the situation calls for, and he is the central focus of the entire picture, his bright white hair guiding the viewer's eye to him. It looks as though Clinton is the president and not the stupid little jerk on the far left. I thought it quite a revealing picture.

I don't think anyone needs to be adored so much that one's faults are overlooked, after all, presidents are only human beings not rock stars. Clinton did not do everything right, but he sure is one hundred per cent over the fool we have now sitting in the oval office. I don't like the swing to the right and only time will tell--so far , if Hillary is thinking of running, it looks like she will pursue that tack.

[Left Is Write]

38. I noticed that too.

I don't like to see Bill Clinton looking unwell.

[BigBearJohn]

40. I LOVE BILL CLINTON

No one's perfect. This man's speeches have brought me to tears.
As they said on West Wing last nite: "Everyone is broken, but
we are trying to put up some kind of front as if we weren't."
(approximate quote)

[SmokingJacket]

45. hahahhah, never thought of it that way...

It must be way worse for them, actually.

Which raises the question... why?? Are the Bushes hoping for a little of Bill's popularity to rub off? Do they know that W. is incredibly unpopular? Maybe they're trying to appeal to the huge mass of people who don't really care too much one way or another...

Still doesn't explain why Bill's doing it. You'd think he'd like to spend a few more months with his feet up, reading and getting fat again.

[The Gunslinger]

58. It's bait for 08

The Republicans are covering thier backs in case Hilary wins in 08. She's already almost a Republican, and the Bill, Hilary ticket will mean a republican victory no matter who wins the election in 08.

[Hardrada]

59. Except Rockefeller Repubs and not Goldwater Repubs.

Almost wrote rockafeeler. Just as well Nelson R. missed this satirical era. He is so forgotten I have never seen him mentioned here anyplace.

[leesa]

60. He should NEVER, EVER support the Bush murderers.

[FreedomAngel82]

67. That would be funny

Look at the expression on junior's face. It's like "is this over yet?"

[Spazito]

69. When Clinton appears with the bushes, particularly W,

I suspect it reminds everyone how good the economy, jobs, the US's reputation was when Clinton was in. It certainly reminds me of that time in the US's history. Clinton receives cheers from the crowd and bush gets jeers from the same crowd, that speaks volumes.

What I can't figure out is why the bushes don't run miles away from appearing with him seeing as the comparison between the two does not favour bush in any way, imo.