NRA Leader: Consider Arming Teachers

[thedevilinthedetails]

This is just flat out insane:

NRA Leader: Consider Arming Teachers

Friday, March 25, 2005

PHOENIX — All options should be considered to prevent rampages like the Minnesota school shooting that took 10 lives — including making guns available to teachers, a top National Rifle Association (search) leader said Friday.

"I'm not saying that that means every teacher should have a gun or not, but what I am saying is we need to look at all the options at what will truly protect the students," the NRA's first vice president, Sandra S. Froman (search), told The Associated Press.

Gun-control restrictions would not have prevented Jeff Weise (search), 16, from killing nine people and himself Monday at Red Lake High School (search) near Bemidji, Minn., said Froman, an attorney expected next month to be elected president of the NRA, which claims 4 million members.

The presence of an unarmed guard at the school failed to stop the siege, she noted.

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Uh the idea that giving teachers guns is going to make students SAFER? We truly are dealing with insanse people here.

[ulysses]

1. flaming idiocy.

The job is hard enough already. Now I should have to carry a fucking sidearm?

[rkc3]

3. I thought most teachers were already carrying sidearms -

aren't they members of a terrorist organization?

[ulysses]

5. right, but I prefer pipe bombs.

;)

[OneBlueSky]

2. ok . . . then I'll counter with "let's arm the students" . . .

to protect them from the teachers, don'tcha know . . .

the LEAST effective approach to any problem is more violence . . . which says a lot about the effectiveness of right wing problem-solving techniques . . . too often, their solution to a problem is to just kill someone or something (except, of course, "unborn children") . . . quick, efficient, right to the point . . . and completely contrary to where a civilized society should be heading . . .

[tubbacheez]

4. What tripe.

Great way of putting more available guns on campus.



Teachers spend 80 hours a week teaching, grading papers, supervising clubs, meeting with parents, and staying on track with their mandatory continuing education requirements.

NCLB forces them to constantly worry about getting their kids to pass standardized tests, even as funding falls lower and lower.

All this on less salary than the average corporate administrative assistant (today's version of a secretary).




And now the NRA suggests these same teachers find the time to become proficient with a firearm?

It takes considerable training to wield a gun well. It takes regular practice just to reliably hit a good grouping on a paper target at the local firing range.

Now add drawing and aiming from various positions. Now add reloading on the move. Now add learning how to avoid having your gun taken away.

Now add the mental training for combat. Now add how to cooperate with fellow armed teachers so teachers don't shoot each other. Now add how to cooperate with police when they arrive on-scene.

Now add refresher courses in all of the above, every couple years.







How many teachers have time to do all that (and still deliver quality education)?

[Terran1212]

6. Natural Selection

I'm hoping the NRA will be so well-armed one day that natural selection should have them pretty much done for.

[newyawker99]

9. Hi Terran1212!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[Kerrytravelers]

7. This must be a joke... it is from FOX.

Actually, I know it's not a joke. They are serious- dead serious- and unfortunately, they haven't been bl;essed with brains enough to see the stupidity in suchan idea.

My half-uncle is a lifetime NRA member. He has this theory that a gun lying in the middle of the street can lay there for a 100 years without killing anybody. I always counter him with the same response. "Please, do not insult my intellignece with such insane rhetoric. You clearly spout vapid rhetoric instead of looking at the reality of the world the rest of us live in."

This is where we're at folks. The NRA is determined to arm the world and let us shoot each other to death.


Here's another thought. I teach in what is considered innercity (I hate that term.) Many of my students are crack babies and in group homes. The issues I deal with everyday with my PRIMARY STUDENTS (preK-3rd grade) is lyng, stealing and violence against one another. My kids live in group homes, foster care and very dangerous and violent home situations. So, now we want to put even more guns in their grasps. No one every brings anything of value ito the classroom because there is a high chance of it being stolen. THere would be a great chance of a GUN being stolen- if not by the kids, then by their parents.

An example of the parents: Before the Black History Program the students performed for their parents, we looked out the window and saw about a dozen or so parents passing a joint around, all of them high as a kite and watching their little kids perform. Kinda sad, isn't it.

And hey, now let's arm the teachers. I have been so angry with parents, you don't want me armed. I was attacked by a parent in my classroom one time, with the students there. Should I have pulled a gun and started firing away? I had a parents show up to a meeting shaking from coming down off her hreoin high, the track marks visable in her arms. Should I be waving weapons in front of a addict?

Oh dear. Oh, oh dear.

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[seabeyond]

10. they are so afraid, those with "faith" are so faithless in man

lordy, what makes them so very afraid of everyone