2008 cookie points to the DU person who can identify person #7 at Funeral

[MollyStark]

I will unofficially award 2008 cookie points to the DU person who can identify person #7 at the funeral of the Pope.
There is a man next to Andrew Card. Someone said Bloomsberg was invited, but that can not be him. Bloomsberg doesn't have that much hair.
Could it be one of Rev Grahams rightwing creepy sons? If you blow the picture up a little it looks like the man has a very square jaw.

[JI7]

1. now that you mention it i think it IS Graham's creepy son

but i can't say for sure.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

39. it is not franklin graham...isaw him yesterday on one of the talking head

shows and he did not go to Rome

[thebigidea]

2. it does look like Franklin Graham to me as well

[DoYouEverWonder]

3. I don't think so

he looks too young.

But in all the reports no one seems to mention who the hell he is?

So tell me again, Carter couldn't go, but Andy Card and some other nameless twit got to go instead?

[MollyStark]

5. That's right!

I am so mad about this I think we need to do what KOS and The American Blogger did with Guckert and out this story.

But you are right the person looks too young to be one of the Grahams.

[thebigidea]

6. too young?

he was supposed to be going instead of his idiot father...

[MollyStark]

10. Theat could be him if he is brushing his hair more over to the side now.

Which son is that?

[Avalux]

21. I heard Graham's daughter was going - not his son n/t

[MollyStark]

4. I dare someone to call the whitehouse and ask them : )

Maybe the hair is too straight to be Graham.

[JI7]

7. could he be some priest who is just leading them in prayer

[Democrat 4 Ever]

8. self delete - sorry

[MollyStark]

11. No he walked in with them

I saw it in a news clip.

[soup]

9. It's Mel Martinez' legal aide

seeking forgiveness for the Schiavo memo.

cookie, please. :D

[MollyStark]

12. Could be

No cookies for you until you prove it with a picture! :evilgrin:

[JI7]

13. the pic is a bit bigger and clearer at gettyimages

http://editorial.gettyimages.com/source/search/FrameSet.aspx?s=ImagesSearchState|0|0|30|0|0|0|1|||0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|7|clinton+pope+|0|0|0|0&p=7

in the search area at the left put in "pope bush clinton" and some of these pics will pop up.

judging from that pic i don't think it's Franklin Graham anymore.

also many of the pics don't even mention Andy Card so i guess whoever edited just didn't know who the person was.

[MollyStark]

15. If you save that picture and blow it up a little, you can see him well.

I don't recognize him but someone else might.

[Stephanie]

19. this one is pretty clear

?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=E2399169AC85D6DE9A21091711E5AD1E01D95D50F8AFB2FF7757C85AE85A779B

[Phentex]

23. Love the ruby slippers on the pope.

:)

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

25. I just isolated and enlarged it. Anyone recognize him from this???

He looks so familiar to me.

[Cooley Hurd]

27. I really think it's Marvin Bush...

...

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

28. That's not Marvin. Here is a photo of Marvin.

[Cooley Hurd]

29. See the pics in my other post:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=3439902&mesg_id=3440136&page=

It really looks like Marvin to me...:shrug:

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

32. I don't see any resemblance between the man in the photo and Marvin.

Sorry. :shrug:

[MollyStark]

63. too square jawed for Marvin

[Stephanie]

30. Is it Franklin Graham?

Do I get the cookies?

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

36. He doesn't look like Graham either. n/t

[MollyStark]

64. I think the guys hair seems too thin for Graham

If we find out it is though, I will personally deliver your cookies in the lounge. :)

[Catchawave]

33. me too. start a new thread in

gd-gd-p and the lounge....we just need an i.d.

I don't know how to post pictures...thanks!

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

34. Just copy the URL of a photo, paste it to your post. Do preview first

to make sure it works.

[Catchawave]

37. thanks....

I need to practice more, or it's just AOL won't let me :(

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

47. I'm on AOL also, and I don't seem to have a problem with them. Another

tip. A way to get the URL of a photo is to right click on it, go to properties. It will have the URL right there. And your welcome! :)

[Junkdrawer]

40. Reminds me of Sen. John Warner (VA)...does he have a son?

:shrug:

[soup]

42. I think maybe it's the hair-flop,

was just looking for Warner info myself. 3 children is all I can find so far. But, would one of them in attendance make any sense?

Did I just actually ask a question that would relate anything ** does with making any sense? - bad soup.

[Junkdrawer]

43. The hair, eyes and jaw...I found this...

NASCAR Families

"Forget about two-income couples, angry white men and soccer moms. The next
big voting block will be NASCAR families. That prediction comes from John
Warner IV, the filmmaking son of Sen. John Warner (R-Va.). 'NASCAR is huge,
' said young Warner, whose new documentary on the life of Wendell Scott, the
first black stock driver, premiered this week on the History Channel."

- "Open Secrets," The Hill, 2/26/03


http://www.mail-archive.com/[e-mail]/msg00193.html

So far, no Pix...

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

46. Funny you should say that. After I got a better idea of what #7 looked

like, I did a search on Warner. Very similar.

[Junkdrawer]

52. Not Warner's son..(at least not John Warner IV)...

http://www.cavalierdaily.com/CVArticle.asp?ID=21281&pid=1213

[soup]

56. Junkdrawer, that's Jeff Wadlow.

I almost posted the same thing, until I realized the 'Wadlow' under the pic referred to a Jeff Wadlow further on in the article.

on edit: I'm just going in circles here.

[Junkdrawer]

60. Thanks

[MollyStark]

62. I don't recognize him does anyone here post at KOS?

Maybe someone could post this pic there and get them working on it.

[Bouncy Ball]

75. bush looks like a dumb ass, as usual

and Clinton has his head bowed in prayer.

God bush is embarrassing. He looks like he's thinking "huh, look, a dead body, huh huh." Like Beavis and Butthead.

[Stephanie]

20. Maybe he's SS?

could it be?

[Horse with no Name]

49. I don't think its SS

They are all dark haired. It's a requirement and he would be flanking the President I would think.
The guy kinda looks like Perry King,lol.
He could be a civil contractor bodyguard though--that would be my guess.

[PRETZEL]

14. Just out of curiosity,

Does anyone have any pic's of Gerald Ford's children? That would be the ultimate insult to President Carter if indeed a representative of former President Ford were there.

[MollyStark]

16. They are all blond

And they would all be in their fifties by now. I think this guy is in his thirties.

[Horse with no Name]

50. That's not Steven Ford

I used to love him on The Young and the Restless.:)

[zanne]

17. It's Waldo!

I knew I'd find him eventually.

[Cooley Hurd]

18. My money's on Marvin Bush...

Isn't Andy Card a close friend of Marvin's?

[soup]

31. I'm thinking not Marvin.

Marvin's more chubbycheek. This guy's more squarejaw.

But, of course, I'm more often wrong than not. :shrug:

---

jebby in that pic - holy yikes!

[Judi Lynn]

53. Some real personality problems blazing through in Jeb's face.

It's almost too much to take! Unbelievable.

I wonder if there are any close up photos of all the "boys." That would be choice.

[Catchawave]

22. Is the White House lying? Heh......

I've seen this photo all over the place in the msm claiming this is the US Delegation paying respects.

It's clear to me the White House is lying about miscommunication with Carter. He was snubbed to make room for the "party people" and I don't mean politics *hic*.

[peekaloo]

24. No shit. Andrew Card over Carter? I'm surprised Karen Huge isn't

present. Kinda surprised the Pope didn't spontaneously combust in the presence of Poopy.

Bastards.

[importDavid]

48. Shouldn't it be...

Kinda surprised that Poopy didn't spontaneously combust in the presence of the Pope.

Now that would be something to see.

True Raiders of the Lost Ark style. ;)

[peekaloo]

51. LOL!

:thumbsup:

[Stephanie]

26. Yes, Scotty McClellan lied on Tuesday - said it would be five >

Q Do we know what the hold up on the delegation -- I mean, is it that somebody has not confirmed that they're coming or not?

MR. McCLELLAN: I don't know that -- I don't know that I'd look at it as a "hold up." First of all, it's a small delegation. We have five slots available for the delegation. Yes, the President and Mrs. Bush are leading the delegation, and they're going to be two of those --

Q Is it five plus them?

MR. McCLELLAN: No, they'll be two of those five.

Q So there's three more.

MR. McCLELLAN: And so there are calls being made, as well -- courtesy calls, as well. And we're just finalizing up the details and making sure that the other three are all able to participate.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2005/04/20050405-3.html

[MollyStark]

67. I hate liars

I hate this whitehouse. I am so angry about them dissing Carter I could spit flames.

[Catchawave]

35. franklin graham images....

http://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images?p=franklin+graham&sm=Yahoo%21+Search&fr=FP-tab-img-t-220&toggle=1&ei=UTF-8

[HairOnFire]

38. "Planning began months ago"...

Could it be his brother? I don't know anything about this publication, Mail & Guardian Online, but here's a quote.


The planning for Bush to become the first serving president to attend a papal funeral began several months ago.

He and his wife, Laura, are to lead what officials called a "small delegation" of Americans, with numbers severely limited by the crush expected on Friday.
Speculation grew on Monday that Bush would invite his father, the first president Bush, as well as his brother and Governor of Florida, Jeb Bush, who is a convert to Catholicism. The former president Bill Clinton might also be asked to attend.


http://www.mg.co.za/articlepage.aspx?area=/breaking_news/breaking_news__international_news/&articleid=200829

[Stephanie]

41. Are you George Tenet?

Love your name - welcome to DU!

That is definitely not Jeb, tho.

[HairOnFire]

44. andy

Thanks. After looking at some better pictures, I'm thinking...

Image
andy card

[Stephanie]

45. read the posts above - we are looking at the other guy, on the end

not Card - we know about Card

[grasswire]

54. Jim Wilkinson's over the guy's left shoulder

Standing behind and to the left. Wilkinson's the American ambassador to the Vatican. FWIW.

[Hobo]

58. Wilkinson is not Ambassaddor any more....

He was brought back to be in he cabinet.

<http://www.cwnews.com/news/viewstory.cfm?recnum=33916>

Hobo

[Hobo]

55. IT should be

Brent Hardt
Charge d'Affaires
U.S. Embassy to the Holy See

I'm looking for a picture.


Hobo

[SheepyMcSheepster]

57. been looking for a pic too

having no luck

[blogslut]

59. the man is an enigma

can't find a pic at all. makes sense though.

still...Andrew Card?

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

61. I bet you're right! I haven't found a photo and I've been searching. n/t

[soup]

65. Now THAT makes sense.

no pic so far though?

[Stephanie]

69. Here is his bio - still looking for a picture

http://vatican.usembassy.it/embassy/dcm.asp

[Junkdrawer]

72. Hey - maybe he's John Warner's love child...

[Carni]

66. Can someone splain to me why the pope appears to have brown loafers

on?

I thought I was seeing things on television but the above photo certainly appears to show a pair of brown loafers.

Sort of an odd choice IMO

[Hobo]

68. They just look brown..

They are actually bright red.


Hobo

[Synnical]

70. Catholic Herald names 8 in delegation

http://www.catholicherald.com/cns/cns05/bush-delegation.htm

In a pew on the right side of the pope's body, the president knelt with his wife, Laura; his father, former President George H.W. Bush; former President Bill Clinton; and Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice.

Joining the official five-member delegation in paying their respects to the pope were White House Chief of Staff Andrew Card; Brendt Hardt, the charge d'affaires of the U.S. Embassy to the Holy See; and Jim Nicholson, who served as U.S. ambassador to the Vatican until being named secretary for veteran affairs in the Bush Cabinet in January.

[librechik]

74. Here is a pic of Jim Nicholson

Brendt Hardt is nowhere to be found in Google

[Junkdrawer]

76. See posts above - No one here can find a photo...

of Brendt or Brent Hardt....

BTW: I'm only half kidding about the Warner love child stuff

[Logansquare]

79. So Andy Card goes to the funeral and not Pres. Carter?

This just gets classier and classier.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

71. he is the acting US Ambassador toThe Holy See since Nicholson left

on edit: I've seen him once on EWTN before but don't know his name.

[Hobo]

73. Sounds like we nailed him.....

I'll split the points with you.....LOL



Peace

Hobo

[Junkdrawer]

77. OK New Mystery: Can anyone find a photo of Brent Hardt????

I mean, the man is the Charge d'Affaires to the Vatican, and yet no one here can find a photo? Strange...

Here's his bio:

http://vatican.usembassy.it/embassy/dcm.asp

[DoYouEverWonder]

78. The invisible man?

Odd that there aren't any pics turning up. I used all my google tricks, nada.

[Junkdrawer]

80. See post #72...Maybe Warner had himself cloned like Dr. Evil....

:shrug:

[Synnical]

81. Okay - the Veils Have Been Bugging Me All Day

Why are Laura and Condi wearing veils? I know Laura is not a Roman Catholic. Is Condi? Do they normally wear them when they attend church?

What is so bloody offense about women's heads?

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