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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 03:05 AM
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Papers Say Leak Probe Is Over
The special prosecutor investigating whether Bush administration officials illegally revealed the identity of a covert CIA operative says he finished his investigation months ago, except for questioning two reporters who have refused to testify.

The information in a March 22 court filing by special counsel Patrick J. Fitzgerald suggests that syndicated columnist Robert D. Novak, who first published the name of undercover CIA officer Valerie Plame, has already spoken to investigators about his sources for that report, according to legal experts. Novak, whose July 2003 column sparked the investigation, and his attorney have refused to comment on whether he was questioned

<http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A32380-2005Apr6.html>

Looks like the perp is going to walk.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 03:07 AM
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1. "No one wants to get to the bottom of this matter more than the president
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ngGale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 03:20 AM
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2. This has to be the biggest cover-up in the history...
of mankind. Bushco gets away with treason by selling out the national security of our country. Hell, it's bigger than Iran-Contra, has most of the same people. FGS - no accountability for something this serious. High power players!
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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 03:40 AM
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3. Why does this not surprise me.
:mad:
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 04:24 AM
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4. Why?
Because it's exactly the same as everything else that's happened since fuckwit was elected. What surprises me is that anyone ever thought this would end differently.
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Nay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 05:17 AM
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5. There seems to be nothing these bastards can't cover up.
This is a more dangerous sign than anything. WTF do they have on everybody? I just can't imagine. Is EVERY ONE of our representatives bought off or silenced some other way? If so, we can only wait for citizens to rise up -- oh, wait a minit, they're all down at Mickey McD's in their SUV's, loading up on Happy Meals. The only thing that has even stirred them out of their torpor is a jump in gas prices. Jesus. We're well and truly fucked.
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 05:25 AM
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6. When you control the media..........
you control everything. It's what people hear and see that sparks them into action. When all they hear or see is the official White House propaganda........if you control the information, you control all.
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slaveplanet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 05:42 AM
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7. as they've said before
"We create reality"

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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 06:21 AM
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8. The media.
TV journalism is stupid and evil. A lot of newspapers aren't so bad, but TV journalists say "Don't read the newspaper. Reading sucks and is only for gay people who want to get married to animals." They say this because it's easy, and profitable.

The media, well TV in particular, cares only about keeping viewers. Take CNN, for instance. I don't think their current right-wing slant has anything to do with ideology. I think it has to do with making money by copying Fox, since Fox is doing well (mostly because Murdoch figures it's profitable to be a right-wing journo.) The main ideology at play in the TV media is money, not conservatism. Conservative journalism is fucking easy because it requires no investigation of anything, can be sensational without too much trouble, and allows you to stick ugly-ass blonde bimbos on prime-time television like they were Dan fucking Rather to an audience of lazy white men.

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Discord Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 08:02 AM
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14. what makes it hard to reach people is that the disinformation
being spread by FAUX is giving right wing voters a false sense of credibility. Since they see what they are led to believe from a "new's" station, they assume it must be true.

Makes it harder to reach them with real information.

Look at the insane stories they played during the Schiavo case. Blatant lies, but the reported it anyways.
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 08:31 AM
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19. There's nothing to be done about Fox.
Fox is the equivalent of taking the WSJ editorial page and putting it on television. Fox will always be profitable, and they'll always be out there spreading manure. But when it gets right down to it, the people on Fox are really a bunch of fuckwits. Hannity, for instance is very stupid. He is, however, very good at yelling.

What we need isn't a liberal Hannity, necessarily. We need our own version of the think tanks that feed ideas to him and the "hard" Fox news programs. The republicans mastered this art a long time ago and it's going to take us a while to catch up.

Fortunately, the idiots seem to be imploding a bit early this time around (I figured they'd wait until at least the middle of Bush's term to go insane.) so our chances in '06 have already improved.
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Discord Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 08:34 AM
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20. i understand it, I'm just noting how much damage
FAUX is able to do. I think every RW voter in this country recieved a memo stating. " You must ONLY watch Fox. All other stations are BAD BAD BAD. They spread lies and will force you to have to use your own brain to figure out the issues. And we don't want that."
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 07:42 AM
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9. How can we get this filing?
I want to see it.
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 07:49 AM
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11. I think it should be here
Edited on Thu Apr-07-05 07:52 AM by G_j
but the link isn't working for me:

U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit:
www.cadc.uscourts.govinternetinternet.nsf

this was included with this article:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2005/04/06/national/w160151D82.DTL



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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 08:58 AM
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21. Here is the site
not sure how to search for the doc

http://www.cadc.uscourts.gov/internet/internet.nsf
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 07:44 AM
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10. The country is pathetic. No outcry over this but a national hernia over a
blow job ....
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 07:56 AM
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12. So the indictments are forthcoming...?
:rofl:
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 07:57 AM
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13. Like any of us are shocked about this one
I mean, the republicans are the party of responsiblity

:sarcasm:
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 08:04 AM
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15. "Bulldog" Fitzgerald, eh? A slight modification to that nickname is needed
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 08:05 AM
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16. A couple thoughts ....
None of this is really new. The majority of the investigation was completed early last summer. Then some new information expanded the case past the middle of July.

The two reporters in question will give testimony that potentially could lead to more "counts" on specific charges against at least one White House official.

There are some reporters who are sincere in their belief that no charges are going to come of this. Yet other people, including Wilson, have been quoted at the end of 2004 as saying he is confident that there will be charges filed as a result of the investigation.

If and when those indictments come (and I believe that there will be charges against two WH officials) we will see if people at the lower level are willing to "fall upon their swords." Perhaps they will. But there is a very real possibility that they will not.

This case is not over. Please do not believe everything the media reports.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 12:12 PM
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22. thanks for your input
I was not going to comment until I saw what you had said. I thought I had recalled that the investigation was mostly over a while ago.

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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 12:48 PM
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23. Yeah.
I was surprised that even TruthOut has an article about it reaching a "dead end." I am not sure why they wrote that.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 08:13 AM
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17. At least Fitzgerald went through the motions. That quality of keeping up
appearances is a distinquishing characteristic of America. Third world countries would do well to follow our example.:sarcasm:
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Snivi Yllom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 08:14 AM
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18. saw this coming a mile away
I predict the report says no crime was comitted at all.
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