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enid602 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 09:11 PM
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RW blog talks about Gannongate
Okay, I admit it. Sometimes I troll the RW sites. The following link is for 'Original Dissent,' a conservative blog which discussed Gannongate in depth just a few days ago: http://www.originaldissent.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17547

The tone of their conversation is very interesting; very country-clubby. I don't know if they're really concerned about the press aspects of this Administration, or perhaps they just want to 'out' the concerned parties in preparation of a Bushco replay of Hitler's 'night of long knives.' Nonetheless, I was surprised to learn how fully the scandal has been filtered down to repugs. Even the 'Franklin cover-up.' Not to be missed is the Barbara Bush quote on oral sex. One blogger irreverently refers to * as the 'traitor-in-chief.'
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 09:24 PM
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1. The "Gannon" story is so not over
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=245x5786


Nota Bene: If you cannot countenance astrology, DO NOT SEEK THE TREASURE. The link leads to a DU place to discuss astrology and what is going on with the USA Mercury (communictions), not to a thread for debating the techniques relative validity. The skeptics forum is the proper place for that,
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Liberty Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 09:24 PM
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2. since you're registered there, tell them that the only way
to get the truth about Gannon will be for good Republicans to start demanding that their legislators call for an investigation. Point out that some Democrats recognized the need to "clean house" and supported efforts to impeach Clinton over his sex scandal. Why should Democrats be the only ones asking for an investigation of this? It's too easy for those in power to ignore the opposite party. But whe Republican voters start demanding that Congress do something, Congress is far more apt to take action.

Silence implies that you approve of a gay hooker gaining access to the White House, being leaked top secret info, and having unfettered access to the President. It also implies that you think it's okay for the President and others in the Administration to keep quiet about who let Gannon in--and why.
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enid602 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 09:30 PM
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3. not registered
I'm not registered on original dissent. Never heard of it before today. The link originally posted should get you in. I just think it's incredible that the other side (or at least some of them) is/are so in tune with all the rumors. This is not dead.
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Liberty Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 09:33 PM
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4. I tried registering but couldn't get it to work. I filled in everything
four times but it still just kept taking me back to the registration page.
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enid602 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 09:37 PM
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5. registration
This is so weird. All I do is click on http://www.originaldissent.com/forums/showthread.php?t=...

. . . and it just takes me directly to the Gannongate discussion
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enid602 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 09:39 PM
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6. This is the start of the 'Original Dissent' thread
Why the ''Mainstream Media'' Ain't Touching ''Jeff Gannon'' (Pt. 1)

by Todd Brendan Fahey
March 28, 2005

Big corporate media cowers to the "Jeff Gannon" story like nothing America has witnessed...since the Franklin Cover-Up (homosexual/pedophile ring operative at the highest levels in Washington D.C.) story that exploded across the pages of the then-conservative Washington Times by then-brave investigative reporter Paul Rodriguez, who went on to become editor-in-chief of Insight magazine.

But Paul Rodriguez just recently resigned from Insight; hasn't written a word of the "Jeff Gannon" scandal, nor has he returned to his pitbull approach to the Franklin frolic (or any other "hard news," pun intended); nor has the Washington Times gone after "Jeff Gannon."

The public--We The People--aren't supposed to be hearing of the story of how a male homosexual prostitute with Marines training penetrated the White House Press Corps, under banner of a meaningless Web site "news agency" with deep ties to the Republican Party. GOPUSA owner Bobby Eberle, owner of TalonNews.com, has stopped talking, has scrubbed the site clean (Google's WayBackMachine archival mechanism makes Mr. Eberle look pretty silly...), and has, in fact, closed down TalonNews.com.

Bloggers are actively calling out White House Spokesman Scott McClellan, Bush advisor Karl Rove and Republican National Chairman (RNC) Ken Mehlman as known homosexuals, each of whom have been spotted at "discrete" homosexual lounges and more indiscrete parties. Powerful Republican Congressman David Dreier is known to be homosexual, and pays his "chief of staff" more than White House Chief of Staff Andrew Card makes--Card being, also, called out of the closet by many investigative bloggers.

Recently, Kay Griggs, a prominent military colonel's wife, set out to right a long history of patent wrongs, which include: homosexual initation rites in the U.S. military--particularly within the Marines; well-documented instances of both homosexual and hetero pedophilia, often as brazen rape, amongst U.S. military figures and notable senior statesmen, Henry Kissinger being named loudly by Mrs. Griggs.

Griggs, in her videotaped interviews recently, discovered her husband's diary and was suitably horrified at what she read. She then began asking questions of her friends in the military wives club, and many of them confessed to the same dirty little secrets. Her candor on video is both disturbing and compelling: the woman has come to grips with the fact that this "culture," as she calls it, is rife within senior U.S. military, and that the stain of being called out as a queer is what keeps the men quiet to the arms- and drugs-running that are a vital function of Our Military.

"Jeff Gannon"--formerly known as James D. Guckert, and who might be Johnny D. Gosch, the paper-boy kidnapped from his route in Des Moines, Iowa in 1982, and who many believe was forced into the same pedophilic child-slave trade that became known as the Franklin Cover-Up--is the fulcrum at the heart of this vast puddle of shit. His biography is hair thin and sketchy, but we are to believe that he was simply allowed to lob softballs at George W. Bush to make the dyslexic and gaffe-prone President "look good."

OK. Such is possible. But not in-toto.

"Jeff Gannon" has to have come from somewhere; yet no one knows (or seems to want to say) from where. We know that he runs, under a variety of Web sites and phone banks, a male/homosexual out-call service that caters to military men ($200/hour; $1200/weekend), called Bedrock Corp., registered in Wilmington, Delaware, and that the state of Delaware busted James Guckert ("Jeff Gannon") in tax deliquency ($20,000) a few years back, of which he has apparently not made amends. His sites show photos of "Gannon's" muscled self--sans clothes, and often erect or urinating (his pubic region is shaved, btw.). He writes that he is "Top only!" (meaning, he shoves his show into his clients, and won't do it any other way). He has been caught lying to Editor & Publisher magazine and various other magazines who interviewed him after the scandal began to explode, as saying that he was merely a Webmaster and was not involved in his clients' sites; turns out, though, that "Gannon" was not only the primary Webmaster for his own sites, but was also the primary client offered For Sale in those gay military escort Web pages.

As baseball brother Jeremy Giambi said: "Unless you've been in a coma" for the last two months, you've read most of the aforementioned summation of recent news. What you have not heard comes next.

Part II: A Whole Lotta Shakin' Going On (in D.C. Right Now)
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slaveplanet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 10:45 PM
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14. me thinks
Todd Brendan Fahey, is persona non Grata at sites like FR. I think he is libertarian from liberty think.
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Liberty Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 10:39 PM
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12. You can read, but can't post unless you register.
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enid602 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 10:50 PM
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15. register
Oh, I see. I did not try to register. I can see where it might be interesting to post, though. Maybe trade some information. You don't have any information of this Kay Griggs do you? She seems to have found the spotlight all of a sudden.
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Liberty Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 10:54 PM
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16. Sorry, but no.
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Laurab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 09:53 PM
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7. Are you SURE that was a RW blog?
I mean, the only one I've even gone to was FR, linked from here, so I don't know. The spelling was good, the people seemed intelligent, and they didn't seem exactly fascinated with *. In other words - polar opposite from Free Repuke.
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enid602 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 10:07 PM
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8. original dissent
Absolutely. The title page of the blog reaqds: "Original Dissent: Traditional, American Conservatism for and from the Common Man" ---------I read a few of their other discussions. They are conservitive. Trouble in paradise?


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Laurab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 11:24 PM
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17. Sure looks like it to me
I'm happy to see it!
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 10:13 PM
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9. Have you seen this person?
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 10:13 PM
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10. Bush is a traitor now?
How did that happen?? I missed that.
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enid602 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 10:21 PM
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11. traitor
It's amazing . . . a bunch of military sitting around talking about Gannon/Guckert/Gosch. What I particularly found informative was the discussion of Kay Grigs, a military wife who learned of of all the child-prostitution and blackmail scandals while reading her husband's journal and chit-chatting with other military wives. I googled her to find out more, but all of the websites just feature her on audio and video, and I don't have the right software to download it. Apparently she names names. A lot of the websites refer to an interview she just did on 3/29, so it's pretty current. Is the shit starting to hit the fan now? These are good, Christian women!
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enid602 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 10:43 PM
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13. Griggs
Sorry. The name is actually Kay Griggs. With two g's.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 01:24 AM
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18. Check out DUer Minstral Boy's website-
Edited on Tue Apr-05-05 01:24 AM by Old and In the Way
http://rigorousintuition.blogspot.com/

He has an interesting post on Griggs and links to the actual nterviews if you interested. Under his 3/28 post.

And read today's story about MLK....man, there's is so much stuff I didn't know about his death.....lots of good stuff there.

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enid602 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 03:00 AM
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19. Griggs
I was finally able to download Kay Grigg's interview, at least the first part. It was about 20 minutes long, and she names all kinds of military generals and leaders who partake in a culture of sexual rituals and blackmail. I don't know if I fully believe all this or not, but I can't understand why she would lie about it. It took me a long time to download part I, as I have a slow, dial-up system. Will try to watch part II tomorrow.
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