Would it still be 'murder' if Terri's parents wanted to remove the tube?

[Jesus Saves]

Imagine if her parents had agreed with Michael. The thing is even if everyone in the family had agreed it would still be murder to right wing nuts. That's the salient point here. It's always murder to them. They don't even like living wills.

Did anyone in the media bring this up?

[China_cat]

1. But if they had all agreed

the media would never have known about it...just like the hundreds of other cases like this that happen every year.

[Jesus Saves]

3. Exactly and

The only thing exceptional about this case is that the family disagreed. The controversy was that Florida law gives the end of life decison to the husband. The right wing nuts aren't arguing that this law be changed to give it to the parents, they are arguing that it is ALWAYS MURDER.

I hope the American people understand this.

[illflem]

4. No it wasn't exceptional, hundreds of cases like this

are fought over. Difference with this one is the Schinders went running to pro-life and far right christen groups whining because things weren't going their way. These groups latched on and wouldn't have let go even if the Schinders changed their mind.

[Jack Rabbit]

2. As far as the Christian Right is concerned, yes

However, had her parents not objected as they did, her tube would have been removed years ago without taking it through the courts or turning her passing into a media circus.

[AnnInLa]

5. Thank you, thank you, thank you

for raising this point...I brought it up like 30,000 times here in every Schiavo thread, and could get no response. When I read that the Schindlers had said in previous interviews that, even if Terri had had a living will, they would not have honored it, and would have fought just as hard to save her body, I was absolutely stunned. So these extremists are just as much against living wills as they are against removing life supports if you don't have a living will??

I think this has political implications. I saw the extremist protestors and family turn on the bush boys, 2 congresses, conservative judges over Terri. I think they will turn on their GOP Congressmen too, if those congressmen try to pass any law that involves a living will. I am hoping that they become totally frustrated with the GOP and split off to form their own "Life" party, or just stay and home and not vote. The GOP "mandate" may not be large enough to survive that. The more loudly they vocalize that living wills should not be honored, the more the traditional GOPer will be turned off.

I couldn't belive it that not one media reported that those extremists (family and protestors) did NOT believe in living wills. If they had reported that often, more and more Americans (including traditional GOPers) would have turned against them, DeLay, Frist and the bush boys. To me, that was THE most crucial aspect of the whole story.

[Jesus Saves]

6. It does seem to be the central issue

Florida law gave the decision to Michael. The right wing isn't arguing it should be in the parents' hands, they are arguing that it is murder, plain and simple.

IOW, they want this decision out of the hands of family members, period.

They are anti-family.

[porphyrian]

7. Then it would've been another vegetable poster-girl.

This had nothing to do with Terri Shiavo, and everything to do with political agenda. Nobody cares about strangers unless prompted by guilt, conformity or ulterior motives.