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begin_within (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-02-05 03:55 PM Original message |
If the Pope had been liberal, would he be getting THIS MUCH coverage? |
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Beware the Beast Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-02-05 03:56 PM Response to Original message |
1. Ummm...yes. |
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begin_within (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-02-05 04:00 PM Response to Reply #1 |
11. It's strange - I'm Catholic and I don't consider him a spiritual leader to |
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Joe the Revelator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-02-05 04:00 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. Then, and i mean this with no disrespect, you're not really a Catholic nt |
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begin_within (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-02-05 04:04 PM Response to Reply #12 |
18. I disagree. Catholics who appear to "worship" the Pope as a "holy father" |
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davepc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-02-05 04:06 PM Response to Reply #18 |
21. Lots of people felt the same way you do. |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-02-05 04:55 PM Response to Reply #12 |
33. Neither was Jesus, Mary, or the apostles. |
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Joe the Revelator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-02-05 06:42 PM Response to Reply #33 |
42. Good, but they also didn't claim to be catholic like the poster did nt |
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begin_within (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-02-05 07:11 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. Just because I'm not a Kool-Aid Catholic who swallows without question |
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Joe the Revelator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-02-05 07:28 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. I'm a Jew, so i don't have any "standards" of catholicism... |
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begin_within (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-02-05 08:53 PM Response to Reply #44 |
45. The Pope - any pope - is NOT GOD!!!!!!! |
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Lone Pawn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-02-05 09:02 PM Response to Reply #45 |
48. Right, but one of the fundamental beliefs of Catholicism is that the Pope |
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regnaD kciN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-02-05 09:26 PM Response to Reply #44 |
52. A member of one religion... |
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Joe the Revelator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-05 01:21 PM Response to Reply #52 |
54. I'm Reform... |
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Beware the Beast Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-02-05 04:03 PM Response to Reply #11 |
17. I see your point, but in the grand heirarchy of the Church, |
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alcuno (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-02-05 04:01 PM Response to Reply #1 |
14. Catholics don't see him as a liberal or a conservative. He is Father. |
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Joe the Revelator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-02-05 03:56 PM Response to Original message |
2. This is stupid... |
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Mr_Spock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-02-05 06:12 PM Response to Reply #2 |
40. I agree |
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Jilly Beans (334 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-02-05 03:57 PM Response to Original message |
3. Do you remember 1978? |
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Proud2BAmurkin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-02-05 03:57 PM Response to Original message |
4. He was a RADICAL liberal on the death penalty, war, and poverty |
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Windy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-02-05 03:58 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. 100% correct |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-02-05 03:58 PM Response to Reply #4 |
9. Thank you. The Pope was no fundie! |
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Pirate Smile (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-02-05 04:05 PM Response to Reply #4 |
20. Exactly. Thank you. In many ways he was a liberal. |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-02-05 09:11 PM Response to Reply #4 |
50. Why isn't that getting more coverage? |
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regnaD kciN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-02-05 09:31 PM Response to Reply #50 |
53. Probably because... |
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stray cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-02-05 03:57 PM Response to Original message |
5. 26 years as an international leader is pretty big. |
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Blue_In_AK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-02-05 04:04 PM Original message |
And I got SO SICK of that Reagan coverage... |
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bluestateguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-02-05 03:58 PM Response to Original message |
7. The Pope was very liberal on many issues |
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Placebo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-02-05 03:58 PM Response to Original message |
8. Of course. He is the spiritual leader of 1 Billion people. |
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etherealtruth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-02-05 03:58 PM Response to Original message |
10. Oddly, the Pope was liberal in many areas ... |
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begin_within (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-02-05 04:02 PM Response to Reply #10 |
16. But all I keep hearing on all the news channels is how he "helped defeat |
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stray cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-02-05 04:15 PM Response to Reply #16 |
25. He stood with the Polish people and I will always respect that. |
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etherealtruth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-02-05 04:50 PM Response to Reply #16 |
31. He was NO fan of capitalism |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-02-05 04:01 PM Response to Original message |
13. Compared to the US media, he WAS LIBERAL. |
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Mr_Spock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-02-05 05:45 PM Response to Reply #13 |
38. Pope cool |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-02-05 04:01 PM Response to Original message |
15. Whatever sells soap and pizza will get covered. |
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etherealtruth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-02-05 04:52 PM Response to Reply #15 |
32. I'm with you... |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-02-05 04:04 PM Response to Original message |
19. He was neither conservative nor liberal, |
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lonelysoul2020 (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-02-05 04:08 PM Response to Original message |
22. Yes because he is the POPE. |
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Lone_Wolf_Moderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-02-05 04:11 PM Response to Original message |
23. Yes. As far as foreign policy and economics goes, he WAS liberal. |
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leesa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-02-05 04:14 PM Response to Original message |
24. He's getting coverage to avoid covering the Iraq disaster and the |
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Joe the Revelator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-02-05 04:19 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. Sometimes, some people, make me want to throw things. nt |
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Agnomen (420 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-02-05 04:44 PM Response to Reply #24 |
30. No, coverage of Terry Shaivo was a distraction |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-02-05 08:54 PM Response to Reply #24 |
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nonconformist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-02-05 04:19 PM Response to Original message |
27. Yes. And the Pope was more liberal than a lot of |
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Cuban_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-02-05 04:22 PM Response to Original message |
28. He was VERY liberal on MANY issues. |
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NMDemDist2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-02-05 04:32 PM Response to Original message |
29. he was considered very liberal when he was elected Pope |
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DARE to HOPE (552 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-02-05 05:09 PM Response to Original message |
34. Quite a contrast, hearing the 12th c "Christ Is Arisen" |
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Kathy in Cambridge (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-02-05 05:12 PM Response to Original message |
35. He was considered a 'modern' Pope when he first started out |
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Mr_Spock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-02-05 05:35 PM Response to Original message |
36. kick |
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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-02-05 05:36 PM Response to Original message |
37. Yes |
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Mr_Spock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-02-05 05:54 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. I agree |
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Mr_Spock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-02-05 06:38 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. Me too |
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Lone Pawn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-02-05 08:55 PM Response to Original message |
47. Yes. Certainly. And he was a liberal on death penalty, war, poverty... |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-02-05 09:08 PM Response to Original message |
49. Yes |
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Piperay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-02-05 09:18 PM Response to Original message |
51. Yes |
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