BREAKING: Abu Ghraib Prison Under Attack! 18 US Casualties Reported

[DistressedAmerican]

Saw it on MSNBC.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/

The direct abuse retaliation I've been expecting. Finally, the other shoe drops!


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ON EDIT:
They Just Posted The Story:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7366857/

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Insurgents attack Iraq's Abu Ghraib prison
Assault on jail results in 18 U.S. casualties, officials tell NBC NewsBREAKING NEWS
By Jim Miklaszewski
NBC News
Updated: 2:18 p.m. ET April 2, 2005WASHINGTON - A group of 40 to 60 insurgents attacked the Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq late Saturday in a well-coordinated assault that inflicted 18 American casualties, U.S. military officials told NBC News.

The officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity, could not immediately provide a breakdown on the number of dead or wounded.

The officials said the insurgents attacked with two car or truck bombs, 40 mortars and an intense ground assault.

[Fenris]

1. There are events outside of Rome?

I had no idea. :eyes:

[tjdee]

2. Holy shit! I have an acquaintance there.

This is awful!
:scared:

[DistressedAmerican]

4. I'm Sorry To Hear That!

We're pulling for everyone over there!

[Career Prole]

3. Just checked CNN...CNN Headline News...and (ugh) Faux...

All still popin' along.

[Clark2008]

38. Apparently, MSNBC is the only one to give it any play

It's on NOW.

[Career Prole]

42. The Pope just passed. This attack has now officially

unhappened.

[DistressedAmerican]

43. No Shit!

Started A Pope Breaking News Thread For Kicks.

ITS WALL TO WALL POPE-O-VISION!

[Nite Owl]

5. I turned on the tv

and they aren't saying a thing. Have they, maybe I missed it.

[DistressedAmerican]

9. JUST BREAKING. Brand New...

The link I gave you just has a headline at this point. No real story link. I'm looking. Unless MSNBC is wrong. Always possible...

[Nite Owl]

17. Yes, I saw the headline

it just isn't real to the public unless they hear it on teevee. I hope this doesn't get buried under the Pope talk. Actually let's just hope it is wrong. This could be the beginning of a new surge of our troops getting targeted.

[Auntie Bush]

14. I have CNN on and haven't heard a word! All afraid they'll miss

Pope's death and hear how much he is suffering...just like Jesus. That's much more important than discussing losing 18 American youths!

PS Posted too soon. Changed to MSNBC. It is 2:23 and I think they are going to announce it next.

[Just Me]

6. Oh my gosh!!!

:scared:

[signmike]

7. This must not be true ---

because on TV, the Car Commercials, Golf, and Cartoon shows have not been interrupted.

:sarcasm:

[DistressedAmerican]

12. Still Hard To Say. Seems prety major.

Maybe it it being swamped by the pope. Although, I bet the are as tired of filling air as we are of them filling it. Could be brand new.

MSNBC either has itself the scoop or they have royally blown it!

[Auntie Bush]

29. MSNBC saying at at least 20 casualties... may not all be dead!

Thank Goodness!

[DistressedAmerican]

33. Lets Certainly Hope For The Best. These Poor Folks!

A couple of weekends a month my ass!

[dbonds]

8. This would get whitewashed on a normal day.

It will be easy to miss while the networks are poping all over themselves.

[BlondieK143]

10. Let's hope it's military, right??

After all, they're just killing and abusing innocent people, right? :eyes:

[Fenris]

32. ...

:hug:

[cliss]

11. Me too, distressed.

I've been waiting for something to happen. Recall that weapons dump at Al-Qaqaa which the US stupidly neglected to take care of. I forget how much, but I believe it was 3 TONS of explosive material which could be used against US troops....and it is.

Now watch for stories about bombs exploding either inside or outside the prison, and we'll know what the source was.

[Blue_In_AK]

13. I see that on your link

but not when I open MSNBC on my computer. What's up with that?

ed. Never mind, I found it.

[DistressedAmerican]

16. Check the new story link in the original post.

They just got it up.

[DistressedAmerican]

15. Just posted the story from MSNBC. (See edited original post)

[kliljedahl]

18. Nothing on TV of course

Can't take attention away from TP.


http://www.kliljedahl.net

[DistressedAmerican]

19. ON MSNBC NOW!

[Nite Owl]

22. Heard it.

This is bad. Culture of life should start by bringing these guys home.

[DistressedAmerican]

23. Couldn't agree more!

One of yesterday's graphics:

[Nite Owl]

27. Nice work

I like this one




(Hope I posted this right)

[DistressedAmerican]

30. This Is A Bit Larger

The main site has tons of Graphics, articles, tunes animations and other stuff!

http://www.seedsofdoubt.com/distressedamerican/main.htm

[saracat]

20. This needs to be front and center. The Pope is important but whatever

happened to "breaking news" ? We interrupt this to.......?

[xpat]

26. The Pope is not important

Old farts die every day. Take Frank Perdue, for instance.

They will just jack him up and slide another one in under him, and the obscurantist conspiracy will keep on boogeying down the road.

[saracat]

31. The Pope is an international leader. He is not an "ordinary "

"old fart" . I don't agree with him on many things but he was a peacemaker. This is international news being covered around the world. I argued on another post that this could be used to Democratic advantage. While I understand some feel it would be in poor tast and I do respect the Pope, the other side will use this to their advantage. But this isn't just "obstuctionist conspiracy". This is the passing of a world leader.

[DistressedAmerican]

40. MORE BREAKING POPE DEAD, AGAIN AP REPORTING!

[tblue37]

96. This just in:

Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still dead!

[Theres-a]

45. here's your irony

I read on another thread they interrupted the abu graib story to announce the pope died!

[ultraist]

21. Officials could not confirm number of dead or wounded

Insurgents attack Iraq's Abu Ghraib prison
Assault on jail results in 18 U.S. casualties, officials tell NBC

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7366857/
NewsBREAKING NEWS
By Jim Miklaszewski
NBC News

Updated: 2:18 p.m. ET April 2, 2005WASHINGTON - A group of 40 to 60 insurgents attacked the Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq late Saturday in a well-coordinated assault that inflicted 18 American casualties, U.S. military officials told NBC News.

The officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity, could not immediately provide a breakdown on the number of dead or wounded.

The officials said the insurgents attacked with two car or truck bombs, 40 mortars and an intense ground assault.

U.S. forces in Iraq house many suspected insurgents at the prison outside Baghdad, which is at the center of a prison abuse scandal.

© 2005 MSNBC Interactive

[Auntie Bush]

24. MSNBC just announced it...then back to the Pope.

But they at least spent 5 sec on the story! :Woohoo:

[Just Me]

25. The added link indicates a very serious assault there.

A couple of car/truck bombs, 40 mortars and ground assault!!!

It sounds overwhelming.

OMG!

[DistressedAmerican]

28. Definitely NOT good!

What a disaster this whole thing is!

THIS WAR HAS BEEN BROUGHT TO YOU BY THESE GUYS (and of course the letters "F" and "U")

[Yupster]

80. Doesn't sound like it overwhelmed though

It sounds like it was kept from freeing any prisoners which I'm sure was the goal. Lucky because if the defenses were overwhelmed, it would have led to thousands freed and a bloodbath of the guards and probably lots of prisoners too.

[kliljedahl]

34. Nothing anywhere else though

No CNN, ABC, CBS or Faux

Remember, they said TP died yesterday.


http://www.kliljedahl.net

[ultraist]

35. CNN just announced at least 20 US soldiers wounded or killed

Two second announcement quoted Reuter's news report:

http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml;jsessionid=ALSSXVRFNIUZ4CRBAEZSFFA?type=topNews&storyID=8068096


At Least 20 U.S. Troops Wounded in Iraq Jail Attack
Sat Apr 2, 2005 02:35 PM ET

BAGHDAD (Reuters) - Dozens of insurgents attacked Abu Ghraib prison outside Baghdad on Saturday, detonating two suicide car bombs and firing rocket-propelled grenades at U.S. forces before the assault was repelled, the U.S. military said.
At least 20 U.S. soldiers were wounded in the fighting, which lasted around an hour, a U.S. officer said. At least 12 detainees were also wounded, some severely. It was not known how many insurgents were wounded or killed.

[DistressedAmerican]

37. The Media LOVES This War! Except They LOVE Celebrity Deaths More!

Sickening!

[tanyev]

36. I wonder if there will be enough fall-out over this

that more of the abuse photos will be released. Probably not.

[Career Prole]

44. The Pope just died. When that hullabaloo finally clears the airwaves

this attack will be deep in the memory hole.
The neocons are no doubt high-fiving over John Paul's timely demise.

[Bluebear]

50. You got that right

[Neecy]

39. sounds like our generation's Tet Offensive

How could 40-60 insurgents inflict 20 casualities? Unless the prison itself isn't well-guarded with regulars, and we're seeing more NG and AR units slaughtered - again.

Must be some heavy firepower being employed - probably the stuff they got from the unguarded dumps. This is such a fuck-up.

[DistressedAmerican]

41. That is Sure As Hell What I Was Wondering. Tipping Point?

If not helicopters from the roofs, them this:

[ultraist]

56. two SUICIDE car bombs and rocket propelled grenades

detonating two suicide car bombs and firing rocket-propelled grenades at U.S. forces before the assault was repelled, the U.S. military said.

Much like the suicide bomber in the US military tent several weeks back.

[Yupster]

81. With suicide truck bombs

That's how you inflict heavy casualties.

[tinonedown]

46. You sound happy?!

EOM

[Bluebear]

47. ?? How does he "sound happy"? This is horrible!!

[DistressedAmerican]

48. Are You Kidding ME?

Please Check My Numerous Posts.

I fear for our troops and I am disgusted with the government that sent them!!!!!!!!!!

:grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr:

[Just Me]

49. ,...uh,....bullshit,....

n/t

[Bluebear]

53. Well, you know, liberals "cheer troop deaths"

:crazy:

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[DistressedAmerican]

51. I'd Say This Is A Fair Time To Ask What Ever Happened To TEARING DOWN

This retched facility? Bulldoze the shit out of it.

I vaguely remember something about the US installed government wanting to keep it.

Same logic applies to Halliburton's pull out from Iran. Sent in a subsidiary and changed the name. Sickening!

Where is the ACCOUNTABILITY?

[tsuki]

66. I agree with you. Bulldoze the shit out of it.

And bring home our boys.

[Contrary1]

52. Here's a link from Reuters:

http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml;jsessionid=MOV3UR3XPQBACCRBAEZSFEY?type=topNews&storyID=8068107

You will need to copy and paste the whole link to get there.

[DistressedAmerican]

55. Easier to just go to their main page.

http://www.reuters.com/

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BAGHDAD (Reuters) - Dozens of insurgents attacked Abu Ghraib prison outside Baghdad on Saturday, detonating two suicide car bombs and firing rocket-propelled grenades at U.S. forces before the assault was repelled, the U.S. military said.
At least 20 U.S. soldiers were wounded in the fighting, which lasted around an hour, a U.S. officer said. At least 12 detainees were also wounded, some severely. It was not known how many insurgents were wounded or killed.

"A group of between 40 and 60 insurgents attacked the U.S. forward operating base at Abu Ghraib," Lieutenant Colonel Guy Rudisill, spokesman for detainee affairs, told Reuters, saying the attack began at around 10 a.m. EST.

"They detonated two VBIEDs (suicide car bombs) and also fired rocket-propelled grenades into the prison camp ... it was a sustained attack," he said.
-end snip- See link for more

[god_bows_to_math]

54. Damn.

So much for the waning "insurgency" some folks in the media have been crowing about.



Unfortunately, this is probably just the start of a renewed offensive.



Tim

[DistressedAmerican]

57. The Day Our Death Toll Over There Tops The 9/11 Number

I will be shouting from the rooftops that Bush has deliberately killed more Americans than Bin Laden. His real toll is certianly higher.

[ultraist]

59. I agree, so much for "things are better in Iraq."

Welcome god_bows_to_math :hi:

[god_bows_to_math]

67. Hey!

Thanks for the welcome.




Tim

[southernleftylady]

58. Why cant i find a link on CNN.com??? nt

[DistressedAmerican]

61. They Have Blown Every Call Today.

Slow on both this AND the pope. Gun Shy as they reported it yesterday and Miles had to suck it up, take one for the team and retract. The excuse if I remember it correctly was somthing like:

"These things just can't be avioded in live television."

Hell yes they can. MSNBC is kicking your scrawney old asses (on todays horseraces anyway). The didn't report the Pope yesterday and they broke the attack today.

[Bluebear]

63. Early link here

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&e=3&u=/ap/20050402/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq_abu_ghraib_attack&sid=84439559

[passy]

60. No US troops dead check article from Reuters

http://today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=worldNews&storyID=2005-04-02T194858Z_01_L02281218_RTRIDST_0_INTERNATIONAL-IRAQ-PRISON-DC.XML

[girl gone mad]

89. That would be surprising, esp. considering this:

"Witnesses said the second car bomb was detonated against U.S. forces as they were trying to evacuate casualties from the first car bomb blast."

The military usually lowballs the casualty estimates for as long as possible. This article didn't mention deaths one way or another, but I'm afraid that believing there will be no US deaths resulting from this attack is a bit too optimistic.

[DistressedAmerican]

91. That is a good point. It would not be the first time.

Besides who will notice with the Pope.

Hell, Michael Jackson can't break through these days. That's focus America!

[Lone_Star_Dem]

62. What frightens me about this attack is the level of planning involved.

I don't doubt that the prison, being what it is, was very heavily fortified. Yet, they still managed a successful attack with two truck bombs, 40 mortars and a successful ground assault. This implies they've either been training, or were already trained insurgents (former military?).

I worry it's the beginning of more organized resistance.

[undergroundpanther]

64. I have to say it

You abuse people as you occupy their country to steal their resources and get Christian religious jollies off,When you rape them,starve them,kill the adults,kill the kids and women, beat them senseless or to death when they are tied up and helpless,no threat to you,When you make them eat rotting food,humiliate them, and the higher ups than the jerks doing the beatings tell the soldier fools to beat them rape them humiliate them and teach the torture techniques too..and the white house says by it's actions,we'll slap your wrist and cover up the crime just do it,...

What other recourse do these Iraqis have?

I am ashamed of our government.

I am disappointed in our people.

What happens"over there" can come back to haunt us,,CIA calls it blow back.
Bush the ghoul dictator calls it his chance to instigate the desperate to strike back, but they won't get bush or the rich rulers making the game that hurts the Iraqis and desperate peoples ,they'll kill American citizens, than in the hysteria Bush or his handlers can dupe America maybe even the world into accepting martial law.Globalism.

And the pope croak serves the ones who want control so perfectly.

[DistressedAmerican]

70. WE Have Done It To Ourselves That's For Sure!

[Lone_Star_Dem]

76. You're right, it had to be said.

I share your shame, disappointment and concerns.

[undergroundpanther]

65. Well

Bush has done his planning too and it's outcome isn't always what we assume.This game America's "leaders" plays it is not good for the world or America's citizens.

[tsuki]

68. What worries me is Abu Ghraib being attacked. It can become

one of the insurgents call to arms (rather like the Bastille was or the Alamo.)

[Bluebear]

69. "The gates of hell are open in Iraq"

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3399126

[DistressedAmerican]

71. That Is A Really Good Thread!

Everyone should read it.

Bluebear as prophet...

[Bluebear]

72. Psychic readings, call me now! Only $3.99 per minute!

Seriously, what a prescient article!

[tsuki]

74. Thanks for the link. I missed it.

[Theres-a]

73. What happened?

All the yahoo stories say wounded,not killed.I just don't get it.

[DistressedAmerican]

78. Casualty is either KIA or wounded. It wasn't clear right off.

[Junkdrawer]

75. This happened 3 hrs ago, and neither CNN, CNNi, nor NPR.org have a word...

Curious....

[DistressedAmerican]

79. POPE-O-VISION

[Lori Price CLG]

77. WTG, Freedom Fighters!!

I hope the Abu Ghraib torture chamber is destroyed, in toto.

:bounce:

Cheers,
Lori Price

P.S.: Lurking Freepers, don't even go there... yes, anyone who destroys a torture chamber is a 'Freedom Fighter.'

[SouthernDem2004]

98. YOU ARE CHEERING THE DEATH OF AMERICANS?!

That is just sick.

[mitchtv]

99. i didn't see anyone cheering for the death of Murkins

cheering for an attack on our torture chambers maybe.American Gulag.

[DistressedAmerican]

82. Kick.

:kick:

[glaeken777]

83. question...

Right after the abuses came to light, did Bush pledge that they were going to bulldoze Abu Ghraib?

If I am right... why hasn't this happened and why hasn't anyone pounced on him for it?

[DistressedAmerican]

84. I Posted Much The Same In Post 51

TEAR IT DOWN. Show the people of Iraq that the torture cells have been destroyed not just placed under new management! Oh wait, that's exactly what has happened.

[DistressedAmerican]

85. HOW MANY MORE? HOW MANY MORE CAN HE KILL BEFORE WE STOP IT?

[DistressedAmerican]

86. Kicking Because The MSM Isn't!

[DistressedAmerican]

88. POPE-O-VISION REPORTS...

Nothing...

[Frederik]

90. Dahr Jamail on the resistance

and why it doesn't have a hard time recruiting:

"MEANWHILE, ONE of the things missing from the U.S. media is reporting on the increasingly frequent bombing of Iraq by the U.S.

THAT'S A very important point. It definitely is one of the most underreported things in Iraq. Daily, there are many, many air missions being flown, and huge amounts of bombs being dropped. In fact, the vast majority of Iraqi civilians killed have died as a result of U.S. warplanes dropping bombs."

http://electroniciraq.net/news/1917.shtml

Sy Hersh also stressed this in an interview - the increasingly numerous daily bombing raids that go unreported by any media.

[AnotherMother4Peace]

92. How depressing - so many people dying because - why?

WMD's? spread of democracy? oil?

They're having an easy time recruiting, & we're not - history repeating itself - recipe for disaster.

[enid602]

95. Recruitment

"They're having an easy time recruiting, & we're not -" So true.

[DistressedAmerican]

97. It is only logical.

We can never outlast a people in their own land. All you can do is stall the pullout with blood and money.

[Algorem]

93. Hey we're the superpower,where do these people get off?

[spanone]

94. News is not readily available. You have to search for events like this.

We wouldn't want to interrupt the death watches and family feuds that pass for news these days.

[DistressedAmerican]

102. The Next Morning Dawns And Where Is The MSM?

What a great day for the Bush Syncronized Corruption Team. Keep your eyes on these weasels of ver the next several days.

Some killing WILL BE GOING ON under cover of Holy Masses. Just like the end of the Godfather. Unfortunately, the media won't be cutting back and forth to show all of the action the way it was done in the movie!

[DistressedAmerican]

103. Just Got The Report From Truthout (Will Pitt) Claiming 44 Causalties

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/040305Z.shtml
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Baghdad - Insurgents detonated car bombs and fired rocket propelled grenades at the Abu Ghraib prison, injuring 44 U.S. forces after a period of declining attacks that had raised hopes the insurgency might be weakening. Lawmakers cast votes for parliament speaker Sunday in a session aimed at ending a deadlock.
-end snip-

A bit more:
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Late Saturday, dozens of insurgents attacked the infamous Abu Ghraib prison, resulting in a clash that lasted about 40 minutes, 1st Lt. Adam Rondeau said. He added that it was unclear if the clash was aimed at helping prisoners escape, although the militants were unable to penetrate the prison's walls and no detainees were set free.

"This was obviously a very well-organized attack and a very big attack," Rondeau said.

On Sunday, U.S. military officials raised the casualty toll from 20 to 44 U.S. soldiers and Marines wounded. Officials said 13 prisoners were also injured.
-end ship-


Thanks for the new info Will! Great work as always!

:toast:

[DistressedAmerican]

104. Kicking Again For Lack of MSM Coverage!

BIGGEST BURIED STORY THIS WEEK! DON'T MISS IT!

Thanks to DUer Frederik for his follow up:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3414915

[illflem]

105. My feeling on why the insurgents haven't been attacking lately

is that they're busy tunneling under the green zone and other key targets, filling the tunnels with looted bunker goodies. Lesson learned from how easy it was at the S. Iraq prison.

[lonestarnot]

106. kick

[GiovanniC]

107. Self Delete