What should the Cause of Death be on Schiavo's Autopsy Report?

[shelley806]

1.) Bulimia
2.) PVS (persistent vegetative state)/Brain Injury
3.) Hypokalemia (low potassium due to vomiting)
4.) Cardiopulmonary arrest
5.) Starvation
6.) Removal of feeding tube
7.) Over-Controlling Parent who caused bulimia

What should the manner of death be? (Suicide can be omitted here because her death was not intentinal although it can be argued that it was induced secondary to her vomiting, which was intentional)

1.) Natural
2.) Accident
3.) Homicide

[MADem]

1. Four and One n/t

[shelley806]

7. Cardiopulmonary arrest is actually a trick question...it is a

Mechanism of death, and all causes of death result in CPA. I would tend to go for 2, but 1 is probably more accurate (and maybe 7).

If a man has a heart attack and dies in an auto accident, the cause of death is MI and the manner is natural, even tho it seems like it should be blunt force injury and manner accident.

The manner could be accident (she vomited without intending to die), natural or even homicide (some would argue parents, others would argue Mr. Schiavo and the courts)

[BeatleBoot]

2. I'll Let You Know After....

Senator Frist performs the autopsy via videotape.

[shelley806]

4. HAAAAAAAHHHHH!! Oh that felt good. nt

[LibertyorDeath]

3. Parental Neglect

Just as a parting "Fuck You"

to her so called "parents"

[shelley806]

20. All things considered, I like this one the best. What sweet revenge

THAT would be.

Cause of Death: Parental Negligence
Manner of Death: Homicide

[LibertyorDeath]

25. "Manner of Death"

Would also be Parental Neglect

:toast:

[trof]

5. Murder by the judiciary according to Rush.

He actually said that.
Oh, and torture.

[shelley806]

8. Murder (homicide) is the manner, and it could be the parens rather

than the husband and the courts because they were likely the original cause of her eating disorder.

[shelley806]

19. I just heard a while ago on CNN the family PRIEST calling

Mr. Schiavo a murderer!

[ohiosmith]

6. Boredom.

[shelley806]

10. a good one! nt

[leftofthedial]

9. terminal embarassment

at being exploited by cynical RW politicians and their religiously insane wack job drones.

[universalcitizen]

11. 7(a) & 3(c)

7(a) Over-controlling religion which has created over-controlling parents by its refusal to allow God to be God ie. puts a man in God's place.

3(c) Self homicide directly related to buying the lie of 7(a)

[shelley806]

13. So you would argue for suicide, which is self homicide? NT

[universalcitizen]

24. Is not all death suicide?

Even though we may not be aware (awake), we create our life and death. Those who appear to be victims have made choices, conciously or unconsciously, to be where they are doing what they are doing every moment. Life is an awsome happening.

[ashmanonar]

12. 7 and 2

the manipulative parent and i do believe it was an accident, because she didn't actually realize something was wrong...a lot of bulimics don't.

[shelley806]

16. Accident; I could definitely argue for that one, but I'll bet that the

death certificate will read Natural, and probably #2...I don't think pshychological causes of death are included in the death certificate as options. (But like I said above, the initial cause of her ultimate demise was bulimia)

[ashmanonar]

21. yea, i just think the bulimia because of a manipulative parent is more

likely. *shrug*.

doesn't matter what i think, i guess.

[shelley806]

23. Someone posted this above...I like it. What say you?

Cause of Death: Parental Negligence

]b]Manner of Death: Homicide

Would that not be sweet revenge?

[ashmanonar]

26. again, wouldn't surprise me.

it wouldn't be a source of joy, but i can totally see that it could have happened that way.

i think this whole mess is best left as it is. there's already too much that's gone on, on EVERY BOARD i post on, so that i don't care that much anymore.

[gollygee]

14. 6 after 2 caused by 4 caused by 1

manner of death is natural. She was allowed to die naturally instead of having her life continue to be prolonged unnaturally.

[shelley806]

17. I bet you're right about manner of death...I think it will probably be

signed out as PVS/Brain Injury secondary to hypokalemia with consequent heart arrhythmia secondary to bulimia Too bad they can't include the parents role but that's psychological which I don't think is allowed on a death certificate. (Eg. cause of almost all suicides is depression, but even if the patient has a clinical history of depression, it might be listed, but only as a contributing factor, not a cause of death.)

Cardiopulmonary arrest is a mechanism of death, not a cause.

[all.of.me]

15. a natural, psychological accident?

dehydration due to court order due to pvs due to brain injury due to bulimia due to bad parenting

[shelley806]

18. "a natural, psychological accident" I like that one...and it states

what the manner was, but has to be natural OR accident, not both. And you're right to include dehydration as cause of death...It should be included in my list.

[Maiden England]

22. I think it will be quite ironic

but after autopsy, I'd wager the COD will likely be severe hypokalemia (low potassium) secondary to chronic bulimia.

Ironic, because its exactly the same COD she would have had, had heroic efforts not been made to prolong her existance. Bulimia caused it in the first place, leading to the heart attack, and the dehydration/starvation due to removal of the feeding tube, also causes hypokalemia as is a common cause of death in such situations.

As for the second part, in the UK, it would be ruled 'death by misadventure' not accident, not suicide, not homicide and it resulted from the actions of the deceased (the bulimia). I'm not sure what it will be in the US. I'd say most likely accident. In that it was an accidental outcome of the bulimia.

[shelley806]

27. Yet another irony in this case. TU for your insightful comments.

I bet you'll be right about the hypokalemia (tho it might be considered a mechanism and not a cause.)

[mainer]

28. Uremia and hyPERkalemia secondary to dehydration

That's the cause of death. Her initial illness (bulimia) probably won't appear in the final diagnoses.